Fates Chance- KHCD

I recall hearing a theory once that the riku that appeared in deep dive was a nobody named Kurix. I dont remember how or why this got started, but it is just so weird to think back when we really just had no idea. Does anyone remember back when we were still trying to figure out what 'Unbirths' were? I recall threads upon threads of just speculation about what that name could mean. There were people who thought they were ghosts, or the spirits of people who died before they were born and so on. And how everyone felt when it turned out that wasnt even their name? Oh, i couldnt help but laugh! I've heard that back when people were trying to figure out who the hooded boy in Deep Dive was, that people called him BHK (blonde haired Kid). It is just so interesting to go back and look at old posts like that and think, 'Wow, we just had no idea what was coming.'

I sure hope so, khoathkeeper13, i sure do...

The Xehanort stuff i agree has been over done at this point. I mean, after bbs explained things, it was cool- but by the time 3D came around, it was like 'really? again?' Yeah, it sorta lost me when they introduced the whole time travel element for his ultimate plans. I agree it has become very annoying. As for the prior victories meaning nothing, i didnt feel like my time had been wasted. It felt like just the next chapter in a story. We came back from the war, learned the battle we fought was for next to nothing, but still needed to be fought. We feel sad, but we still feel like we did what we needed to do. And now, a new evil has sprung up, and we are off to fight it too. Wars never do stay over for long after all. We go, we fight, we win and then wait for the next one- and there is always a next one. I guess it is just a difference in opinion in how the game made us feel when that rug got pulled out from under us. You felt more annoyed. Where i was more intrigued as to what it meant for the story and felt even more gunghoe about continuing on and finding out.

1: Xehanorts ramblings about destiny have always seemed like bad justifications for what he has done. Life is a series of choices, and he acts as though he is God- deciding these peoples destinies for them. His ramblings always reek of someone with a narcissistic God complex trying to explain and justify his terrible acts. 2: Bad writing? Yes there are a few moments where i agree with you, but looking at the series as a whole, i think the writing is very good. The few lines they dedicate to the realization that what they have been doing is wrong or playing into the villains hands, i think were fine. And they did have very good reactions in my opinion. The moment in KH2 when Sora realized he is being used by the organization to make Kingdom Hearts was great. He has his moment of doubt, and then reacts in so many words and actions that, 'I know that defeating the heartless is playing into their hands, but the heartless still need to be defeated. I really have no other choice. I can either stop fighting and let the heartless over run the worlds, or defeat them, save the worlds, and find a way to defeat the Organization.' Also, when Yen Sid realized that the Mark of Mastery exam has been hijacked, he has his moment of realization but at that point there is nothing he can really do. So he does what he can. 3: With things being constantly manipulated by Xehanort and his endless back up plans, i will give you that. It does take away from the main characters and kinda paints them as chumps who keep falling into Xehanorts hands. It makes them look like they dont have all that much agency in the game, and are just reacting to what the villain is doing. Though i think this problem really became a problem after KH2- and just unbearable in 3D. It seems like SE likes the villain more than our heroes sometimes. But it does make for an awesome villain. 4: Predictable? Did you predict that they were gonna introduce time travel? Or that the Keyblade was really a common man made weapon? Or that when a Nobody and heartless are destroyed the original person comes back? Or the true purpose of Organization 13? Or Xigbar/Braigs involvement in Xemnas/Xehanorts plans? That the main antagonist split his heart and put a piece of it inside of Braig? Did you predict that yellow eyes and pointy ears didnt mean someone had bent to the darkness but really that they were harboring a piece of Xehanort inside them? Did you predict that before we got KH3 that Sora, and Riku would go through the Mark of Mastery exam? Did you predict that Axel now Lea was going to get a Keyblade? Or that Saix/Isa was really a pawn in Xehanorts scemes to become a vessel like he was revealed to be in 3D? Did you predict the true reason Chain of Memories happened at all? Did you predict that we would get three more main characters after KH2 and ANOTHER Xehanort? Did you predict that the reason Roxas can dual wield is because he was harboring a completely different persons heart inside of him? Or that the reason Roxas looks the way he does is because of said persons heart? (I dont recall when we found out that Ventus was a different character anyone suggesting the reason we were given for this) Or that BBS would end with the characters where they were? Or that Ansem SoD was really an impostor? Or that Castle Oblivion was really another world locked away? Or that in KH2 Sora was playing into the Organizations hands and creating Kingdom Hearts before Axel told him? Tell me with a straight face you predicted any of that. The series is far from predictable in the sense that 'nothing is a surprise'. There were lots of surprises. Sure i knew that Sora would win, that he would find the King and his friends, and return home, and defeat the organization. But the things that happened along the way, i usually did not see coming. Now i will admit, i only started getting into theories and the forum about 2009-ish so i may have missed some of the discussion that had gone on. And i got into KH after KH2 came out (like 2007 ish) so it is possible that i missed the discussion and the conviction that Ansem SoD was an impostor, or what Castle Oblivion was, but i recall quite clearly no one predicting accurately any of this.

It all comes down to i guess where you prefer or are able to play games. Like, if you can spend more time at home rather than on the go. For instance, i personally am on the go a lot and find it convienient to be able to play a game i love on my down time. When i get home, i usually am too tired to devote attention to a game on a screen- tv or other wise. Although it would be cool if you could like, transfer the game between hand held and consoles. Like, be at home playing on your tv then when you need to leave the house be able to transfer the game and where you were to a handheld so you can keep playing in the airport or what ever.

I can see why you think that, but i actually really liked the route they took with the Keyblade. I've grown quite tired of the, 'You were chosen, you are oh so special, you were predestined to save us all' stories. It is almost a cliche now. I really liked that they took what we knew, and turned it on its head! Said, actually, you know what, you're not that special. Everyone has the opportunity to get a Keyblade, and what you become from having that power depends on who you are as a person- rather than you being some predestined hero. I loved that they gave it a story, and showed how the world changed from what it once was to what it is now in the KH world. This once common weapon declined to the point of almost extinction, to the point where it was legend and seen as some grand thing- but now it is making a come back to what it truly was. As for the 'each victory revealed to have been nothing' i thought that was really different and novel. It kinda emulates real life. You can go to war and win 100 battles, but by the end of the war, you learned that 90 of them not only gained you next to nothing, but may have actually hurt you in the long run. It really humanizes the KH gang- at least for me. They make mistakes, spend whole games chasing the wrong thing, only to realize it later, slap their foreheads, and say, "Ok, well now what do we do?" I see it this story as rather clever, unpredictable, and leaving you on the edge of your seat with excitement but also anxiety about what they will do to the characters you have grown so attached to. I like stories like that, but i understand if it isnt everyones cup of tea.

I really hope what ever they have planned for after the Dark Seeker Saga captures that feeling of "What is going on? I must know!" again. I guess this is just what the end of a Saga is supposed to feel like. It's so bittersweet.

I agree, the hype that came after that was just enormous. When Kh3 was announced it was close, but not quite as earth and internet shattering it seemed to me. I wish they had done a movie like that to announce KH3 rather than a sort trailer. Then i think the hype would've surpassed it quite easily.

I agree there are still quite a few unknowns, but nothing that feels as huge as before is what I'm trying to say.

And does anyone remember when we found out Vanitas looks like Sora? OMG, i remember how the forum seemed to explode with thoughts on that.

Ok, a little background first. Up until like last week, i hadnt played a KH game on a home console in like almost 5 years. And last week, i picked up a copy of 1.5 and 2.5, because...i wanted to even though i had no PS3 to play them on. All i had til this point was my old PS2 to play older KH games. A fiend of mine though knew how much i wanted to play BBS (which i have never played before) before going to boot camp and lent me his PS3 until i leave. So as i was playing a KH game on my TV for the first time in forever, i realized how kinda spoiled i had been with hand held KH games. I personally really like handheld games. I like being able to take the game with you and play it where ever you want rather than only being able to play it at home. And having only played the handheld KH games (other than BBS) for the last five years, I found that i actually kinda prefer it. Now, i will play any KH game that i can, but playing it at the TV made me actually want to go out and buy a psp, and psp version of BBS so that i could have it with me where ever i went. I really liked being able to take KH with me where ever i went. Whether it be Days, or CoM, or 3DDD, i never realized how much i prefer it over playing on a TV. Which do you like better? And I know that KH3 is coming out on the PS4, (and i think its the right choice) but is there anyone out there who kinda wishes that you could instead take it with you where ever you go rather than just play it at home? Whats your opinion of handheld vs home console kh playing?

So i was playing through BBS Final mix with my sister (who stopped playing kh about half way through KH2) and she had a lot of questions. "Why does Ventus look like Roxas?" "Why is there another Xehanort?" "Who is the boy in the mask?" "Whats the point of this prequel sequel? What is it supposed to add to the series?" As i was explaining things to her, i realized something: I missed the days when we knew next to nothing about the series. As i explained and showed her the secret movies that hinted at bbs, I told her how it seemed at the time everyone was talking about it on the forums- theorizing, trying to figure it out. How when all we had was the name, 'Unbirths' as the new enemy, we made theories upon theories about them because we had nothing else but that name-only to find out later they were actually called 'Unversed'. Back when, we perplexed by who the 3 characters in armor, and when we were left scratching our heads at why 'Roxas' was one of them. I even remember when it was revealed who Axel and Saix somebodies were, and their names, it was so amazing to have that tidbit. I dont know, it just doesnt seem the same in the fandom since most of the mysteries are gone. There's a spark that seems to have gone out. That spark that kept me up at night, and day dreaming in class trying to figure out these mysteries. I still love the series, and i wouldnt quit it for the world, but things just arent how they used to be... What do you think?

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Nope...I've never had a best friend, or many friends in general. Came close once, but then he asked me out and it kinda ruined our friendship. I hope to have one some day though- kinda like Axel, Roxas and Xions friendship. I think that may be why i like them so much, i wish i had what they have. Wow, that got depressing But hopeful too

....Well said.

thank you for your warm welcomes Songbird Rebel, but I have actually been on this forum since like 2009 I got locked out of my old account- which was just 'Fates Chance'- because I couldn't remember my password and the password recovery thing was sent to an email that I no longer used and had forgotten the password to as well. So I just made a new account. I am an old veteran now, but again thank you you are so welcoming.

Thank you 'Benca' is a greeting that people always hear and use when I go visit my family in Brazil. I just looked it up, and it means 'Blessings.' like, 'Oi, benca, tudo bom?'

Id love to write back in Portuguese, but I never learned to write in Portuguese, just speak and read. I will try my best though... Oi, benca! Onde voce mora? Em Brasil ou um otro lugar? How did I do

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No original, gba Chain of Memories option? Because that was my first kh game

This was a grown man in his late 20s if i am being generous. Tbh, he looked almost in his thirties. And i knew what it looked like for an employee to realize u r not buying anything. I mean there were lots more collectibles after the zelda puzzle he coulda shown me on the same shelf but he didnt. As soon as i said that i never played a Zelda game he didnt say another word and walked away. I was actually thinking of caving and buying a plushie i wanted but after that i just felt really awkward cause of the way he treated me and walked out. I agree with what you're saying completely. Whats worse, this little scene happened in the middle of the store with a few people close around. I usually just brush bad customer service off and go on my merry way, i was just so embarrassed from people looking at me afterward that i just wanted to leave.

This is gonna be a bit ranty but I just have to get this vent out of my system because it just annoyed me so much. Alright, so the other day I went into my local GameStop because I wanted to look around and see if there was anything in the Used bin I wanted. While there, I struck up a lovely conversation with Employee A (whose name I don't know). We talked about games that we were looking forward to, how GameStop should be selling retro games, and silly overseas preorder bonuses that GameStop would give away with games. It was a conversation that left me happy and in a good mood. As I looked around some more, I found nothing in the used section I wanted and moved onto the collectables section. Still riding the wave of good feelings I had from Employee A, I ran into Employee B who was trying to sell me on buying collectables. He kept suggesting things to me, even after I told him that I wasn't looking to buy any more collectables at the moment. But he soldiered on, and suggested I buy a Legend of Zelda puzzle. I responded, "Actually, I have never played any of the Zelda games before." I didn't think this was a big deal because, well I just never got into them. By the time I was self aware enough to want games as a kid, Legend of Zelda was already like 15 yrs old and being a kid I wanted the new and shiny games. At the time LoZ was that game that I was so late to the series that I didn't feel like brushing up on a bunch of lore just to play one of its many sequels. So I, unlike many gamers, look at the series without nostalgia goggles and see it as a franchise Im just not that into. This guy, however, suddenly became very not nice to me. After I told him that, he gave me this 'you are more worthless than dirt, and I despise you, you stupid insect' look, slammed the puzzle back on the shelves, and walk away from me in a huff. Like since I had never played a Zelda game, I wasn't a 'real' gamer and not worth his time. It really annoyed me that he treated that way. I mean, I had heard of these people before who think since you haven't played their favorite classic game series you aren't a real gamer- but I had never met one before. I felt like I was unwelcome in this GameStop and needed to leave. Just because we don't like the same games or genre doesn't make either of us less of a fan of video games- and definetly doesn't warrant this sort of treatment. I mean where do people get off treating their like of a certain game or genre making them above all other gamers? That is totally absurd! I mean, I meet people all the time who don't play or like my favorite games and I don't treat them like dirt, nor them me. We sit, we talk about our differences and why we may not like each others games or about how video games have effected our lives. I don't know why this bothers me so much, especially after i had such a nice exp with Employee A just moments before. I would think that i would just bump the Employee B out of my mind and focus on how nice Employee A was- but no. I have had this bad moment stewing in the forefront of my brain ever since, festering and annoying me until i finally had to go on a rant! ....ah that made me feel a bit better. Sry if that was long and ranty, and wandered a bit, but i just had to rant about this.

Ah yes...good times, good times. You know, I view myself as very levelheaded but that Xaldin fight reduced me to a rage filled, cussing at the tv, about to rip my controller in half but only after chucking my tv out the window types. Sigh, fond memories indeed

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