Hey, everybody.

So in order to get myself through this final agonizing stretch until KH3, I've been playing through the Kingdom Hearts games at random. I was just starting the final battle for Kingdom Hearts: Final Mix when I noticed something about Ansem's speech about Riku wanting to escape the Destiny Islands. I couldn't find a video of just this clip so the video I'm sharing is like 40 minutes, but the scene I'm referencing should start when you hit play. If not, it starts around the 2:12 mark: 

If you listen to what Ansem is saying about Riku wanting to leave the islands, it seems like the game may have intended to draw parallels between Riku and Young Xehanort while he was still living on the islands. All that stuff Ansem says about the island being a prison surrounded by water and how "this boy sought out to escape from his prison." Hasn't it been confirmed that young Xehanort felt the exact same way? I'm wondering now if more parallels will come up between the two in KH3.

What do you guys think? Am I just grasping at straws or do you agree?

15 hours ago, The Transcendent Key said:

Exactly! I want Xehanort's machinations to have been of his own volition and not because some other force was driving him to do it, ya know? Over the course of the series, we've always believed Xehanort has done what he's done for the pursuit of knowledge and to seek the balance of light and darkness, ya know? 

That's fair. I can understand that. I think I just want Dark Chirithy to actually have a purpose, because so far in KHUX he hasn't really done anything of importance. He just kind of showed up and... that was it.

On 1/13/2019 at 8:45 PM, The Transcendent Key said:

Exactly! I want Xehanort's machinations to have been of his own volition and not because some other force was driving him to do it, ya know? Over the course of the series, we've always believed Xehanort has done what he's done for the pursuit of knowledge and to seek the balance of light and darkness, ya know? 

Yeah but the way he went about it is what makes him evil.  Everything was fine until MX started experimenting with his ideals. 

On 1/14/2019 at 1:10 PM, Allwil13 said:

That's fair. I can understand that. I think I just want Dark Chirithy to actually have a purpose, because so far in KHUX he hasn't really done anything of importance. He just kind of showed up and... that was it.

Yeah, I get you. But hey, there might be more to Dark Chirithy than we think. If the Darkling on the cover of KHIII is anything to go by, then there's a good chance we'll see more elements of KHUX in the game.

On 1/15/2019 at 1:22 AM, ienzo628 said:

Yeah but the way he went about it is what makes him evil.  Everything was fine until MX started experimenting with his ideals. 

I know, right? Once that started going down, that's when things really started to spiral down into chaos!

5 hours ago, The Transcendent Key said:

Yeah, I get you. But hey, there might be more to Dark Chirithy than we think. If the Darkling on the cover of KHIII is anything to go by, then there's a good chance we'll see more elements of KHUX in the game.

I know, right? Once that started going down, that's when things really started to spiral down into chaos!

I mean, he put the barriers of the worlds at risk as Ansem Seeker of Darkness. 

On 1/21/2019 at 7:12 PM, ienzo628 said:

I mean, he put the barriers of the worlds at risk as Ansem Seeker of Darkness. 

Indeed so! It's crazy to see to what levels Xehanort would resort to in order to see his ambitions come to fruition!

2 hours ago, The Transcendent Key said:

Indeed so! It's crazy to see to what levels Xehanort would resort to in order to see his ambitions come to fruition!

I just wonder why.  What drove him to this extent?  I know for Riku, he embraced the darkness and Maleficent to get Kairi to wake up and also because he felt betrayed by Sora.  Did Eraqus' disapproval of him using the darkness cause some sort of tension between MX and Eraqus and did that tension lead to MX delving deeper into fulfilling his ideal balance of darkness and light?

20 minutes ago, ienzo628 said:

I just wonder why.  What drove him to this extent?  I know for Riku, he embraced the darkness and Maleficent to get Kairi to wake up and also because he felt betrayed by Sora.  Did Eraqus' disapproval of him using the darkness cause some sort of tension between MX and Eraqus and did that tension lead to MX delving deeper into fulfilling his ideal balance of darkness and light?

I imagine that since this is the end of the Xehanort Saga we'll be getting some more information on Xehanort's past, as well as his motivation for doing what he's doing. It's about time he got some more development.

In the Xehanort Reports from BBS, you see that he was more curious than anything about Keyblades and Darkness to start, rather than being a stalwart loon about it. It was only after he really started to steep himself in darkness, starting with removing his armor in the Lanes Between, steeping himself in darkness, and falling into the hole of knowledge on the Keyblade War, even though he was curious before.

That being said, his younger self also mentioned in DDD that his path was set in motion by his older self and that it was so etched into his heart he would never forget his destiny, even if he didn't remember events. So no matter what it was his own Heart traveling to the past that set him on the path in the first place, creating a loop that we are unable to truly tell the end from the beginning of.

I think as @Allwil13 mentioned, we'll learn more specifics during KH3, especially as his youngest form yet is the one we've seen in trailers previously. I personally think that it was his diving into darkness, combined with his natural thirst for knowledge that took him too far down into the inky abyss and made him see the world, as he references Eraqus in his reports, in nothing but absolutes. "All things being in Darkness, and so to do they end"

On 1/28/2019 at 5:33 PM, LunaCatte said:

In the Xehanort Reports from BBS, you see that he was more curious than anything about Keyblades and Darkness to start, rather than being a stalwart loon about it. It was only after he really started to steep himself in darkness, starting with removing his armor in the Lanes Between, steeping himself in darkness, and falling into the hole of knowledge on the Keyblade War, even though he was curious before.

That being said, his younger self also mentioned in DDD that his path was set in motion by his older self and that it was so etched into his heart he would never forget his destiny, even if he didn't remember events. So no matter what it was his own Heart traveling to the past that set him on the path in the first place, creating a loop that we are unable to truly tell the end from the beginning of.

I think as @Allwil13 mentioned, we'll learn more specifics during KH3, especially as his youngest form yet is the one we've seen in trailers previously. I personally think that it was his diving into darkness, combined with his natural thirst for knowledge that took him too far down into the inky abyss and made him see the world, as he references Eraqus in his reports, in nothing but absolutes. "All things being in Darkness, and so to do they end"

So MX is a little like Vexen/Even in this regard?

On 1/28/2019 at 5:36 PM, ienzo628 said:

I just wonder why.  What drove him to this extent?  I know for Riku, he embraced the darkness and Maleficent to get Kairi to wake up and also because he felt betrayed by Sora.  Did Eraqus' disapproval of him using the darkness cause some sort of tension between MX and Eraqus and did that tension lead to MX delving deeper into fulfilling his ideal balance of darkness and light?

That's the question here. Because from what we've seen throughout the series, Xehanort has been like a philosopher, always hungry for knowledge, and him knowing about light and darkness must be a factor in him wanting a balance between the two, since light overflows, and he thinks the darkness is too desperately sought to be destroyed. But as for why he wants the Keyblade War to happen so badly, it's most likely so he can gain sovereignity over Kingdom Hearts and become a God, because in his reports, he said that whoever unlocks Kingdom Hearts becomes something far more than human, ya know?

On 1/28/2019 at 5:59 PM, Allwil13 said:

I imagine that since this is the end of the Xehanort Saga we'll be getting some more information on Xehanort's past, as well as his motivation for doing what he's doing. It's about time he got some more development.

Yesssss, I want me some old man Nort lore!