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I mean that's logical sure, but I can't prove that you truly smelled that

Technically you can't, but again, that's because you're ignoring the axioms

Well isn't that where assumption kicks in

If we go by what Walrus said, that you can smell might not really be real either. Might just be something Person A was thinking about

Like a reaction you expect someone to make and it happened

That's why axioms were invented in the first place, to move beyond the road block of existence and perception

I should look up what axiom is first

if reality is based through the senses then all I have seen is that you had a negative reaction and heard your disgust. Also I licked you. You tasted gross

But you existed because I perceived you through those senses, if you are not stimulating any of those senses, you do not exist

You can't objectively prove that reality is actually real, that is true, but that is not an argument we live by on the daily, and in fact it is an argument we can't live by. We first need to establish the "rules" (i.e. the axioms) so that we can play the game.

Also how dare you say I taste gross

Why not use a bigger example than cheese, for example this server, let's say its a microcosm of society

I can't believe a conversation like this spawned out of me saying subjective too much

I mean, it is a fun conversation

Oh for sure

This was just totally out of the left field

But it's one I've seen performed many times

Society, and the server, doesn't function unless the majority of people in it are ones that don't cause harm to others.

Right?

You just have to assume that there are morals

there are morals that we created ye

A baseline moral in everyone

Because it's just easy to call existence into question as something improvable when that is something that philosophers have grappled with for thousands of years and have developed very interesting rhetorical mechanisms to get past

I don't think it's so hard to grapple with existence

plus really the god argument is sort of a cure all in a way

Man, I don't even want to get into morality

That is wayyyyyy out there

Well this doesn't really make sense in my philosophy...

...That's why that's what god is