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Interesting

That helps

Reminds me of Elena from FF7 really, maybe a little bit of Fujin from FF8 too

Girls in suits are always a win imo

Hell yeah dog, we speak the same language

So, like, Vanitas is a being of darkness, without being a Heartless basically. When he said he IS darkness that's not just campy writing, that's what he is lol that's why everyone thought he was "Darkness" in UX for a while.

To explain it as simply as possible, Vanitas is the physical embodiment of the darkness that was stripped out of Ventus.

So what about the heartless?

They're beings OF darkness

Like a subset of darkness?

Darkness is a force, or like, an entity- a living concept. It has a consciousness basically.

The Heartless are beings OF darkness

But they aren't necessarily darkness itself.

But Vanitas IS darkness itself taken physical form, correct?

Thats why when Riku unlocks Maleficents heart in KH1 she turns into a dragon, not a heartless.

Where as Marluxia and Larxene turned Gothel and Hans INTO heartlesses respectively.

Basically ye

Heartless are animalistic beings that form whenever there is darkness to feed on; whether it’s inside or outside a person. The difference is that Unversed originate from Vanitas.

Ok I think that makes sense. I need to make the distinction since one of my characters in my game is very similar to Vanitas and I would like to keep the logic of KH semi intact

Ok I have a good comparison actually.

Let's look at it like this

So furry's, right?

Hold up

Let's say- WHAT

Continue

Lmao

So let's say someone has a Fox person as a fursona.

Well, they don't think they're actually a fox, but, they've taken the form of it.

The heartless are furries

And the enemy types are their fursonas

And the darkness is like the real foxes

Make sense?

I-

I did not think that that furries would come up in this conversation but fair enough

It makes sense though

Has anyone played Celeste?

That’s a very bizarre yet well articulated explanation

wh—

fantastic game

10/10 cried very hard multiple times

Incredible game. My favorite of all time

Anyways, Badeline is to Madeline as Vanitas is to Ventus.

That's the kind of logic I'm trying to go with

I've been told its amazing.

Like a shadowy version of a character that's not inherently evil, but represents the darkness of their heart ala, fear anxiety regret etc.