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As well as all the mentioned points,plus the new plot threads,etc

Yes,that's my point

While the two FMS did add content,obviously

As games,KH1 lacked less than 2 did

And this was my problem with KH2 at the time

I can't say much for 3,because I want to see what we get for FM first,because imo.. 1,2,and 3 were "complete" games for their intial releases... but for the former 2,the FMs did add in some great stuff

2,even more so

and like i said.. i will never go back to vanilla 2,not after tasting FM

I would only go back to vanilla 2 for Roxas' battle quotes

Limit Form is just too good,and having a dodge roll is great

I've come to appreciate 2 more nowadays thanks to FM and watching Bizkit and seeing how good the combat is, but at the time I was pretty meh about it

Whereas 1 I always loved

For me I always loved KH2 more, even when it was just vanilla 2.

Ahh a man of culture

Wrt the roxas battle quotes

That's fair.. I'd want to then compare 2 to 3,when it comes to content,but like.. one,this isn't the chat for that,and two,I dunno really

and reaction commands

Also,that's valid

That's me for some games in other series.. it's not because the game was well rounded that i like the game

I just genuinely like the game

Like FFXIII

Infact,FF XIII kida suffers from "vocal minority"

Trust me,I know it sounds like bullshit,but..

It's true

Yeah it comes down to own feelings. Like I never liked Reaction Commands ?

Ah

I liked them because despite them taking away control from the player, they were often simply used as stuns or finishers on bosses, that gave you an openning, unlike quick time events which simply are there to give the player something to do.

Oh yeah,that's valid. and they can be cool,though some of them kinda just take a little too long,and,like I kinda often say...

....

damnit,i forgot what i was going to say

but I agree FF13 is a pretty solid game

But I thought you say it often?

aah,there it is,i recall.. ?

Right.. Kh2 got the same critcisms as KH3 in a lot of respects

And a lot of those citicims have become more.. silenced,I guess?

because of FM

Over the years and alot in part to--yeah,FM

With regard to reaction commands. I didnt like how it was a thing to just defeat enemies with. Like, with so many enemies, to combat their strengths. It's just 'Press Triangle"

Like.. trust me.. when people say "Wait for FM".. it's not mindless hopefulness or screaming solely to shut down criticism,Arthur

Rather than use your own methods

When people say that,they genuinely mean it

Like.. compare base games,but don't bring FM into it yet

when we talk critcisms and comparisons,I mean.

Oh no, I believe FM is gonna be good, I just hope it improves the game enough.

Fair and valid

But,KZ brings excellenet point