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you could say playing FFXI was a... revelation for me

after that a lot of things made more sense

V to IX were all ATB but they all had their own system on the side to make them stand out too. Materia with 7, junction and GF with 8, Trance with 9 but they all revolved around the same mechanic. That wasn't the case for any game after X.

ehhhh. XII is pretty much just 5-9 combat system with the difference that you can run around during combat

and that attack command got replaced with autoattacks

i'm expecting something new, but i don't think there is a hard rule for them to make a new battle system everytime

honestly the new battle systems aren't that different

since FF7 Remake

The only one we have had since 7 Remake is XVI

XVI just axed different spells and homogenized elemental weaknesses under a stagger value

it's pretty much the same mechanic

the goal of both combat systems is the same

I am genuinely confused where you are going with this

I am pretty much saying that XVI and VIIR have the same goal in their combat design. They just achieve it a little bit different. I'd compare it to how 7-9 differentiated their combat systems

I am still wondering what the same goal is, unless its about being an action game

Because they play wildly different and I seriously can't see a similarity between them

the goal is staggering enemies to do big damage

The ATB system of remakes, the magic system actually mattering, the playable different characters. These are all wildly different from XVI.

Even how the stagger works is different

the magic system in XVI matters too

it just doesn't have elemental weaknesses

I stand by what I said

I honestly don't think that ATB will make it into the next mainline FF game btw

it's just an inconvenience

it makes using items and buff/debuff magic feel terrible