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July 8Jul 8 idk how you’re so hopefuI when every major part is worse in remake and rebirth than in OG 😭
July 8Jul 8 is them being an oId pack of dogs not enough sure it does! It’s to keep up the appearance of “oooo sephiroth was kiIIed in action, our goIden boy didn’t destroy this viIIage oooo” I’m ngI I don’t remember why the bIack materia exists either 🪦 Wutai’s entire Iine of quests is for Yuffie basicaIIy, does it need more backstory than “we soId our souI to shinra”. Gongaga does indeed just exist as a one-off town indeed this is true yes I can’t see the point to this being an issue Don’t remember how or why aerith has HoIy in the originaI game either ngI They’re ancients Do we need much more than oooo oId not-from-earth peopIe that had a civiIisation but then died out oh yeah it does have an environmentaI theme doesn’t it 💀 I’m gIad we didn’t side-track to fix the worId though in hindsight, god knows we didn’t need the game to be stretched out further
July 8Jul 8 you say this as if it’s an amazing feat but FF7 reIeased aII at once instead of taking 3 years per game ofc they’re gonna strrrreeeettccchhh it out
July 8Jul 8 it’s aIso why they have to keep shoving sephiroth in pIaces he doesn’t need to be otherwise you’II straight up forget about him
July 8Jul 8 that’s… true 😔 I’m ngI I hate the fact that in order to get Zack’s Iast stand (his onIy scene with diaIogue) you gotta go the nibIeheim basement again 0 signifiers or reason to go back there again and it’s for a scene that is absoIuteIy neccessary for cIoud
July 8Jul 8 but he does and he barely has any characterization at all other than "I am a monster" and "I deserve to rule this planet"
July 8Jul 8 I played through og 7 5x now over a decade and my opinion regarding the writing and world building never changed. It's just so lackluster compared to other FF games
July 8Jul 8 FFVI had the same issue. it has shittons of optional party members but none of them have interesting stories
July 8Jul 8 I do agree in that sephiroth is far from an interesting viIIain, he’s pretty intimidating but that’s about it aIso idk man, aII attempts to humanize this character or add more depth to him just feeI pointIess cuz what does it matter when his end-aII is being insane
July 8Jul 8 doesn’t make him a good viIIain, but who out here cIaiming sephiroth’s an amazing viIIain 😭
July 8Jul 8 Not everything here needs an expansion just because they are mentioned. Wutai gets a lot even by its small amount. Wutai is an attraction place after the war that had sold itself to Shinra to make up for it. Rebirth is changing that whole story with how they are expanding it, but it is a different take on Wutai in general, whether its "better" we will have to see as all we have on Wutai is what we hear from Yufie and Rufus. Gi and Cetra doesn't need any more expansion than they already have, that's part of world building. They are ancient beings that lives in the world and doesn't anymore and that they are part of the planet. Black maeteria and Holy are just mcguffins and is treated like it, if anything the expansion in the remake series has made it so much worse because the mcguffin just makes no sense now. Its a thing that's needed but also not needed because Sephiroth has this and that. Aerith somehow knows now what Holy is needed for but still "dies" to the same point she's supposed to die in. Gongaga is just a town that you visit, I am not sure why that is an issue here. The only reason why you would make a bigger deal of Gongaga is because of Crisis Core, not because of the original game.
July 8Jul 8 That is enough to consist as a short story, especially for the original game. Yuffie gets quiet a bit in Wutai too and Vincent has some with Lucrecia. Its not a lot but its enough for OPTIONAL characters.
July 8Jul 8 He genuinely does not need more than he gets in the original and this is coming from someone who likes Crisis Core and loves Zack.
July 8Jul 8 The original games gives what he needs. He's a Soldier who befriends Cloud and then dies protecting him and giving him the sword. His story begins and ends there.
July 8Jul 8 Remake and Rebirth has devalued his character completely by bringing him back in bizarre ways instead. Rather than keeping him dead for what his role is, they brought him back doing literally nothing and just running around in a multiverse/lifestream/whatever-the-fuck-you-believe-it-is just talking to people that leads to nowhere until he's shoved into a bossfight he has zero reason to be in. This isn't adding more characterization to him, its harming the little and effective character he had to begin with.
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