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They learned their lesson now

Like if you're not gonna have them be the characters from 15

Why do it lol?

it's not really V13 but definitely a meta commentary. Like this shit is undeniable

I been saying this since Verum Rex.

but i want it to be vs xiii

Still let’s just hope they don’t make the mistake AGAIN

they literally put the queens guard from ffxv and versus XIII into kh4

I think it's really just Nomura wants to use the idea that he had for Vs 13 and he saw a way of doing it with Kingdom Hearts

The Vs. 13 drama is only known by fans of Nomura and Square- its not a mainstream thing-- we only know about this cause we're knee deep in this shit, someone detached from everything is not going to get this

Good

Don't tell a vs13 fan that

My biggest worry for KH4 has been that the main story will be put on hold most of the game so Nomura can do his self-therapy

https://klipy.com/gifs/mickey-mouse-king-mickey

the issue is that a lot of v13 fans want to force KH4 into the position that it's literally versus 13 and they don't like the nuance of the topic.

Yeah but why do a meta commentary on a canceled game that only nerds like us are gonna understand

The reality is V13 was not gonna be that different from 15 lmao

It was just gonna have a different story

But characters, setting, world, that stayed the same except for the Stella shit

Isn't that contradictory

I am just trying to understand your argument

I don't think it's about it being different or about including ideas from versus 13. It's deeply personal for Nomura

This was Nomura project but couldn’t execute it the way he wanted though so make sense fans would want vs13

Is it personal for Nomura? I don't think I have ever seen him talk about the cancellation of Vs13

What I'm saying is people talk about FF15 and Vs13 as if they are two completely seperate IP's that just so happen to share names.

But imo I don't think they're holistically complete opposites of each other or anything. They are different but they're not unrecognizable to each other