In "Machinations unto Darkness", No Heart is shown wielding Master Xehanort's Keyblade. Sometime during the battle, NH turns MX's Keyblade into this weird....thing. The top part of his Keyblade. But I noticed something odd.

 

 

If you look closely, the bottom part looks like half of a man. The man (to me) appears to be worshiping, or holding up that blue eye that so happens to appear on all of the dark Keyblade wielder's Keyblades. Coincidentally, all of the dark Keyblade wielders shown in the game are more or less related to Master Xehanort. Does this "eye" have a significance to the story? Something about it is sinister.

yeah i notesed that too how Rikus keyblade and Vanitas keyblade and Xeahnorts keyblade all have a blue eye nice find dude

And that pc also looks like the greek X. it's just because of teh darkness. not much related for now.

Yeah I've always noticed those Blue Eyes, there is something about them, something sinister like you said, something very evil. It is probably gonna have some sort of part in the game, perhaps there is some sort of fearsome beast that is the source of all darkness? Well we will see, but you really got me thinking. Also, I didn't see the man at first, but now I do, quite interesting.

There's nothing "sinister" about that eyeball on Master Xehanort's keyblade. Those are the trade-marks of what a keyblade of darkness looks like when it is created from darkness itself. Just like Riku's soul eater keyblade has that eyeball on it, as well as Vanitas's keyblade which has eyeballs on it. Those are nothing but trade-marks of how a keyblade of darkness is made.

There's nothing "sinister" about that eyeball on Master Xehanort's keyblade. Those are the trade-marks of what a keyblade of darkness looks like when it is created from darkness itself. Just like Riku's soul eater keyblade has that eyeball on it, as well as Vanitas's keyblade which has eyeballs on it. Those are nothing but trade-marks of how a keyblade of darkness is made.

 

The Way to the Dawn has the "trade-mark" eye, yet it is a Keyblade from the Realm of Light...

 

And Soul Eater is not a Keyblade. It's just a sword.

 

There's nothing "sinister" about that eyeball on Master Xehanort's keyblade. Those are the trade-marks of what a keyblade of darkness looks like when it is created from darkness itself. Just like Riku's soul eater keyblade has that eyeball on it, as well as Vanitas's keyblade which has eyeballs on it. Those are nothing but trade-marks of how a keyblade of darkness is made.

 

The Way to the Dawn has the "trade-mark" eye, yet it is a Keyblade from the Realm of Light...

 

And Soul Eater is not a Keyblade. It's just a sword.

 

Dude, Soul Eater is a keyblade. But not a keyblade of light, a keyblade of Darkness. And the reason why Way to Dawn has a eyeball on it was pretty much due to Riku being a "Warrior of Twilight".

what kingdomhearts12 said about the trademark thing

To me the arms of the man look more like the horns of the monster on his keyblade, but below it it slightly resembles the upper part of the hand guard of void gear.

 

Dude, Soul Eater is a keyblade. But not a keyblade of light, a keyblade of Darkness. And the reason why Way to Dawn has a eyeball on it was pretty much due to Riku being a "Warrior of Twilight".

 

Actually soul eater is not a keyblade, it is a sort of intermediatary keyblade. Here is some information on it.

V - There is still a lot of mystery about the keyblades I think. The "Light side, heart of worlds keyblade" that Sora wields, the "keyblade of people's hearts" made from the Seven Princesses' hearts for Riku, and the "Dark side, heart of worlds keyblade" that the king obtained in the realm of darkness, presently these 3 types can be confirmed. Could you please explain things a little further?

 

Keyblades have 2 different constitutions, either from the Light side or the Dark side. This is merely the exterior key, the inner key can act from either side and its abilities won't change. There is no clear division between good and evil. Usually the door to each world is closed and the keyhole itself is not visible. By bringing a keyblade nearby, the keyhole appears. But the lock is not actually closed itself. Indeed, the Heartless were able to find the door and easily open it and in this way steal hearts. In the previous game, Sora turned the locks and closed these doors. Furthermore, about the opened door of the integrated heart of worlds "Kingdom Hearts" itself, to prevent the outflow of the darkness within hearts the intent and reasons were different so the keyblade was used for a different purpose. In order to work, the door needs to be closed from both the Dark side and the Light side and both a dark and light realm keyblade are needed. The King needed a keyblade opposite from the realm of light keyblade that Sora had, so he went to the realm of darkness to obtain one.

 

The keyblade constructed from the Seven Princesses' hearts that Riku obtained in the previous game allowed for the keyhole in Hollow Bastion to appear. For the plan to cause darkness to overflow from hearts, the special hearts held be the Princesses were used to artificially make this keyblade. So it is different from a proper keyblade. There are further suggestions that this keyblade is artificial as well.

 

 

VI - Could you please give an explanation for the new keyblade "Way to the Dawn" that Riku obtained and the keyblade Kairi has as well as what the conditions for using a keyblade are?

 

There isn't necessarily one keyblade for the dark side and one for the light side, just as many as there exist people with qualified hearts. Concerning the conditions to wield one, at this stage, "Those with strong hearts" is the only obvious one. However, less obvious conditions still exist and there are still plans for an opportunity to reveal those. Riku's "Way to the Dawn" and Kairi's keyblade are naturally the same type of keyblade as Sora's. However there is no particular explanation for the Soul Eater's transfer and occurrence, as well as Riku's handing it to Kairi. When there isn't a normal process of acquisition, I think its ok to think there is some deeper meaning there.

 

 

There's nothing "sinister" about that eyeball on Master Xehanort's keyblade. Those are the trade-marks of what a keyblade of darkness looks like when it is created from darkness itself. Just like Riku's soul eater keyblade has that eyeball on it, as well as Vanitas's keyblade which has eyeballs on it. Those are nothing but trade-marks of how a keyblade of darkness is made.

 

The Way to the Dawn has the "trade-mark" eye, yet it is a Keyblade from the Realm of Light...

 

And Soul Eater is not a Keyblade. It's just a sword.

 

Dude, Soul Eater is a keyblade. But not a keyblade of light, a keyblade of Darkness. And the reason why Way to Dawn has a eyeball on it was pretty much due to Riku being a "Warrior of Twilight".

 

So if I go to Mission Mode, and select Riku....

 

 

Look at that. It clearly says "Sword". Implying that his starting weapon (when you unlock him), is the Soul Eater, which is a SWORD, not a KEYBLADE. Plus, look at it....does it look like a Keyblade to you? It doesn't have the handles like the Keyblade, nor the hinges (those things at the top of the Keyblade, whatever they are called). It doesn't even have a Keychain, yet you think that you can classify this as a Keyblade. Hmmmm.....

 

Warrior of Twilight? Ok, if we're gonna make stuff up, then know what you're talking about. Because I can tell you that I never heard this before, and you better start backing up your stuff.

 

 

 

There's nothing "sinister" about that eyeball on Master Xehanort's keyblade. Those are the trade-marks of what a keyblade of darkness looks like when it is created from darkness itself. Just like Riku's soul eater keyblade has that eyeball on it, as well as Vanitas's keyblade which has eyeballs on it. Those are nothing but trade-marks of how a keyblade of darkness is made.

 

The Way to the Dawn has the "trade-mark" eye, yet it is a Keyblade from the Realm of Light...

 

And Soul Eater is not a Keyblade. It's just a sword.

 

Dude, Soul Eater is a keyblade. But not a keyblade of light, a keyblade of Darkness. And the reason why Way to Dawn has a eyeball on it was pretty much due to Riku being a "Warrior of Twilight".

 

So if I go to Mission Mode, and select Riku....

 

 

Look at that. It clearly says "Sword". Implying that his starting weapon (when you unlock him), is the Soul Eater, which is a SWORD, not a KEYBLADE. Plus, look at it....does it look like a Keyblade to you? It doesn't have the handles like the Keyblade, nor the hinges (those things at the top of the Keyblade, whatever they are called). It doesn't even have a Keychain, yet you think that you can classify this as a Keyblade. Hmmmm.....

 

Warrior of Twilight? Ok, if we're gonna make stuff up, then know what you're talking about. Because I can tell you that I never heard this before, and you better start backing up your stuff.

 

-_- you don't understand, just because it has the word "Sword" in it does not mean it is a actual sword. And yes I told you, it's a keyblade made from darkness itself. So it doesn't have a keychain, just look at the keyblade of heart (the one possessed Riku was holding in KH1), it's a keyblad eand it doesn't have a keychain, yet you don't say it's a "sword" it's a keyblade. So i rest my case.

 

 

There's nothing "sinister" about that eyeball on Master Xehanort's keyblade. Those are the trade-marks of what a keyblade of darkness looks like when it is created from darkness itself. Just like Riku's soul eater keyblade has that eyeball on it, as well as Vanitas's keyblade which has eyeballs on it. Those are nothing but trade-marks of how a keyblade of darkness is made.

 

The Way to the Dawn has the "trade-mark" eye, yet it is a Keyblade from the Realm of Light...

 

And Soul Eater is not a Keyblade. It's just a sword.

 

Dude, Soul Eater is a keyblade. But not a keyblade of light, a keyblade of Darkness. And the reason why Way to Dawn has a eyeball on it was pretty much due to Riku being a "Warrior of Twilight".

 

Soul Eater is a sword, it however takes some sort of transformation and becomes the Way to the Dawn Keyblade, which happens some time between Sora's second visit to Land of the Dragons and Riku's encounter with Saix, just before Kairi unhoods Riku to see that he looks like Ansem.

 

But the thing you did say above about the Keyblade of People's Hearts is true, it didn't have a Keychain. I would assume that is because though it may have been a Keyblade, it wasn't an official one, since it was created from six of the seven hearts of the PoH.

 

But I don't want to state this as fact, this is just what I thought, I'm probably wrong, but I'd like to think that I at least have an idea of what I'm talking about. (This is referring to all that I have just said.)

 

 

 

 

There's nothing "sinister" about that eyeball on Master Xehanort's keyblade. Those are the trade-marks of what a keyblade of darkness looks like when it is created from darkness itself. Just like Riku's soul eater keyblade has that eyeball on it, as well as Vanitas's keyblade which has eyeballs on it. Those are nothing but trade-marks of how a keyblade of darkness is made.

 

The Way to the Dawn has the "trade-mark" eye, yet it is a Keyblade from the Realm of Light...

 

And Soul Eater is not a Keyblade. It's just a sword.

 

Dude, Soul Eater is a keyblade. But not a keyblade of light, a keyblade of Darkness. And the reason why Way to Dawn has a eyeball on it was pretty much due to Riku being a "Warrior of Twilight".

 

So if I go to Mission Mode, and select Riku....

 

 

Look at that. It clearly says "Sword". Implying that his starting weapon (when you unlock him), is the Soul Eater, which is a SWORD, not a KEYBLADE. Plus, look at it....does it look like a Keyblade to you? It doesn't have the handles like the Keyblade, nor the hinges (those things at the top of the Keyblade, whatever they are called). It doesn't even have a Keychain, yet you think that you can classify this as a Keyblade. Hmmmm.....

 

Warrior of Twilight? Ok, if we're gonna make stuff up, then know what you're talking about. Because I can tell you that I never heard this before, and you better start backing up your stuff.

 

-_- you don't understand, just because it has the word "Sword" in it does not mean it is a actual sword. And yes I told you, it's a keyblade made from darkness itself. So it doesn't have a keychain, just look at the keyblade of heart (the one possessed Riku was holding in KH1), it's a keyblad eand it doesn't have a keychain, yet you don't say it's a "sword" it's a keyblade. So i rest my case.

 

No, I do understand. You don't.

 

I'm pretty sure that when it says "Sword"....it's a sword, buddy.

 

Again, not a Keyblade. Look at it again, does it look like a Keyblade and/or have the characteristics of a Keyblade? No, it does not.

 

So if the Soul Eater is a Keyblade of Darkness, shouldn't it technically come from the Realm of Darkness? The same one where it has the Kingdom Key D- OH WAIT! An actual Keyblade that has all the characteristics of one, and it can unlock doors/keyholes. Your posts make as much as sense as a mentally challenged person trying to argue.

 

The Keyblade of Heart is neither Sword or Keyblade. It is an artifical Keyblade. Pseudo Keyblade. Meaning it's fake. It must be forged by the pure hearts of light from seven princesses. It laters dissolves into hearts. Keyblades don't do that.

-_- you don't understand, just because it has the word "Sword" in it does not mean it is a actual sword.

 

Then why doesn't it say keyblade? Why would they point out the fact that he was using Sword, when they could have put it as Keyblade?

 

And yes I told you, it's a keyblade made from darkness itself.

 

Where did you pull this information out? Maybe if you had an actual explination, this would be more believable in the first place. Even then, that still won't put you in a better position, because it doesn't act like a real keyblade would. Death did explain this to you already.

 

So it doesn't have a keychain, just look at the keyblade of heart (the one possessed Riku was holding in KH1), it's a keyblad eand it doesn't have a keychain, yet you don't say it's a "sword" it's a keyblade. So i rest my case.

 

/cough

 

The keyblade constructed from the Seven Princesses' hearts that Riku obtained in the previous game allowed for the keyhole in Hollow Bastion to appear. For the plan to cause darkness to overflow from hearts, the special hearts held be the Princesses were used to artificially make this keyblade. So it is different from a proper keyblade. There are further suggestions that this keyblade is artificial as well.

 

 

 

 

 

There's nothing "sinister" about that eyeball on Master Xehanort's keyblade. Those are the trade-marks of what a keyblade of darkness looks like when it is created from darkness itself. Just like Riku's soul eater keyblade has that eyeball on it, as well as Vanitas's keyblade which has eyeballs on it. Those are nothing but trade-marks of how a keyblade of darkness is made.

 

The Way to the Dawn has the "trade-mark" eye, yet it is a Keyblade from the Realm of Light...

 

And Soul Eater is not a Keyblade. It's just a sword.

 

Dude, Soul Eater is a keyblade. But not a keyblade of light, a keyblade of Darkness. And the reason why Way to Dawn has a eyeball on it was pretty much due to Riku being a "Warrior of Twilight".

 

So if I go to Mission Mode, and select Riku....

 

 

Look at that. It clearly says "Sword". Implying that his starting weapon (when you unlock him), is the Soul Eater, which is a SWORD, not a KEYBLADE. Plus, look at it....does it look like a Keyblade to you? It doesn't have the handles like the Keyblade, nor the hinges (those things at the top of the Keyblade, whatever they are called). It doesn't even have a Keychain, yet you think that you can classify this as a Keyblade. Hmmmm.....

 

Warrior of Twilight? Ok, if we're gonna make stuff up, then know what you're talking about. Because I can tell you that I never heard this before, and you better start backing up your stuff.

 

-_- you don't understand, just because it has the word "Sword" in it does not mean it is a actual sword. And yes I told you, it's a keyblade made from darkness itself. So it doesn't have a keychain, just look at the keyblade of heart (the one possessed Riku was holding in KH1), it's a keyblad eand it doesn't have a keychain, yet you don't say it's a "sword" it's a keyblade. So i rest my case.

 

No, I do understand. You don't.

 

I'm pretty sure that when it says "Sword"....it's a sword, buddy.

 

Again, not a Keyblade. Look at it again, does it look like a Keyblade and/or have the characteristics of a Keyblade? No, it does not.

 

So if the Soul Eater is a Keyblade of Darkness, shouldn't it technically come from the Realm of Darkness? The same one where it has the Kingdom Key D- OH WAIT! An actual Keyblade that has all the characteristics of one, and it can unlock doors/keyholes. Your posts make as much as sense as a mentally challenged person trying to argue.

 

The Keyblade of Heart is neither Sword or Keyblade. It is an artifical Keyblade. Pseudo Keyblade. Meaning it's fake. It must be forged by the pure hearts of light from seven princesses. It laters dissolves into hearts. Keyblades don't do that.

 

*facepalms* ugh, you're not getting anything I'm telling you, do you? I am telling the answers right in front of you and yet you choose not to believe me. So yeah, I'm done trying to explain this to you if you're not getting anything. Besides, don't feel like starting an argument here. Go look at all the KH cutscenes and study them carefully, that should get tell you everything you need to know.

 

 

 

 

 

 

There's nothing "sinister" about that eyeball on Master Xehanort's keyblade. Those are the trade-marks of what a keyblade of darkness looks like when it is created from darkness itself. Just like Riku's soul eater keyblade has that eyeball on it, as well as Vanitas's keyblade which has eyeballs on it. Those are nothing but trade-marks of how a keyblade of darkness is made.

 

The Way to the Dawn has the "trade-mark" eye, yet it is a Keyblade from the Realm of Light...

 

And Soul Eater is not a Keyblade. It's just a sword.

 

Dude, Soul Eater is a keyblade. But not a keyblade of light, a keyblade of Darkness. And the reason why Way to Dawn has a eyeball on it was pretty much due to Riku being a "Warrior of Twilight".

 

So if I go to Mission Mode, and select Riku....

 

 

Look at that. It clearly says "Sword". Implying that his starting weapon (when you unlock him), is the Soul Eater, which is a SWORD, not a KEYBLADE. Plus, look at it....does it look like a Keyblade to you? It doesn't have the handles like the Keyblade, nor the hinges (those things at the top of the Keyblade, whatever they are called). It doesn't even have a Keychain, yet you think that you can classify this as a Keyblade. Hmmmm.....

 

Warrior of Twilight? Ok, if we're gonna make stuff up, then know what you're talking about. Because I can tell you that I never heard this before, and you better start backing up your stuff.

 

-_- you don't understand, just because it has the word "Sword" in it does not mean it is a actual sword. And yes I told you, it's a keyblade made from darkness itself. So it doesn't have a keychain, just look at the keyblade of heart (the one possessed Riku was holding in KH1), it's a keyblad eand it doesn't have a keychain, yet you don't say it's a "sword" it's a keyblade. So i rest my case.

 

No, I do understand. You don't.

 

I'm pretty sure that when it says "Sword"....it's a sword, buddy.

 

Again, not a Keyblade. Look at it again, does it look like a Keyblade and/or have the characteristics of a Keyblade? No, it does not.

 

So if the Soul Eater is a Keyblade of Darkness, shouldn't it technically come from the Realm of Darkness? The same one where it has the Kingdom Key D- OH WAIT! An actual Keyblade that has all the characteristics of one, and it can unlock doors/keyholes. Your posts make as much as sense as a mentally challenged person trying to argue.

 

The Keyblade of Heart is neither Sword or Keyblade. It is an artifical Keyblade. Pseudo Keyblade. Meaning it's fake. It must be forged by the pure hearts of light from seven princesses. It laters dissolves into hearts. Keyblades don't do that.

 

*facepalms* ugh, you're not getting anything I'm telling you, do you? I am telling the answers right in front of you and yet you choose not to believe me. So yeah, I'm done trying to explain this to you if you're not getting anything. Besides, don't feel like starting an argument here. Go look at all the KH cutscenes and study them carefully, that should get tell you everything you need to know.

 

You didn't get anything I told you from my MX = Nobody thread.

 

What answers? You're magically pulling things out of thin air and pretty making them your proof. I have not seen any links or quotes from Nomura. You have nothing, but you think you're proving a point.

 

4 people, including me, proved you wrong, using reliable source. So all 4 of us are not getting it? That doesn't seem the case. It's funny, because all 4 of us brought proof while you didn't. You completely ignored the other people's posts and only thought the logic way to do this was continue to argue with Deathy here, and you didn't acomplished anything here, only made a fool out of yourself.

 

So I know what I'm talking about, you don't, therefore YOU need to study the KH cutscenes carefully.

The keyblade constructed from the Seven Princesses' hearts that Riku obtained in the previous game allowed for the keyhole in Hollow Bastion to appear. For the plan to cause darkness to overflow from hearts' date=' the special hearts held be the Princesses were used to artificially make this keyblade. So it is different from a proper keyblade. There are further suggestions that this keyblade is artificial as well.[/quote']

 

So it wasn't an "official" Keyblade? So I assumed correctly in my post above. At least I got something right on my own lol.

 

 

 

 

 

 

There's nothing "sinister" about that eyeball on Master Xehanort's keyblade. Those are the trade-marks of what a keyblade of darkness looks like when it is created from darkness itself. Just like Riku's soul eater keyblade has that eyeball on it, as well as Vanitas's keyblade which has eyeballs on it. Those are nothing but trade-marks of how a keyblade of darkness is made.

 

The Way to the Dawn has the "trade-mark" eye, yet it is a Keyblade from the Realm of Light...

 

And Soul Eater is not a Keyblade. It's just a sword.

 

Dude, Soul Eater is a keyblade. But not a keyblade of light, a keyblade of Darkness. And the reason why Way to Dawn has a eyeball on it was pretty much due to Riku being a "Warrior of Twilight".

 

So if I go to Mission Mode, and select Riku....

 

 

Look at that. It clearly says "Sword". Implying that his starting weapon (when you unlock him), is the Soul Eater, which is a SWORD, not a KEYBLADE. Plus, look at it....does it look like a Keyblade to you? It doesn't have the handles like the Keyblade, nor the hinges (those things at the top of the Keyblade, whatever they are called). It doesn't even have a Keychain, yet you think that you can classify this as a Keyblade. Hmmmm.....

 

Warrior of Twilight? Ok, if we're gonna make stuff up, then know what you're talking about. Because I can tell you that I never heard this before, and you better start backing up your stuff.

 

-_- you don't understand, just because it has the word "Sword" in it does not mean it is a actual sword. And yes I told you, it's a keyblade made from darkness itself. So it doesn't have a keychain, just look at the keyblade of heart (the one possessed Riku was holding in KH1), it's a keyblad eand it doesn't have a keychain, yet you don't say it's a "sword" it's a keyblade. So i rest my case.

 

No, I do understand. You don't.

 

I'm pretty sure that when it says "Sword"....it's a sword, buddy.

 

Again, not a Keyblade. Look at it again, does it look like a Keyblade and/or have the characteristics of a Keyblade? No, it does not.

 

So if the Soul Eater is a Keyblade of Darkness, shouldn't it technically come from the Realm of Darkness? The same one where it has the Kingdom Key D- OH WAIT! An actual Keyblade that has all the characteristics of one, and it can unlock doors/keyholes. Your posts make as much as sense as a mentally challenged person trying to argue.

 

The Keyblade of Heart is neither Sword or Keyblade. It is an artifical Keyblade. Pseudo Keyblade. Meaning it's fake. It must be forged by the pure hearts of light from seven princesses. It laters dissolves into hearts. Keyblades don't do that.

 

*facepalms* ugh, you're not getting anything I'm telling you, do you? I am telling the answers right in front of you and yet you choose not to believe me. So yeah, I'm done trying to explain this to you if you're not getting anything. Besides, don't feel like starting an argument here. Go look at all the KH cutscenes and study them carefully, that should get tell you everything you need to know.

 

Bro, first of all, I don't appreciate you causing a shitstorm on my thread with this nonsense. You obviously have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, and you are ignoring the facts.

 

For the last time, THE SOUL EATER IS NOT A KEYBLADE. I put that in caps so you can see that clearly, and understand that. The evidence has already been pointed out several times about the Soul Eater NOT being a Keyblade, I don't know why you can't admit you are wrong and move on.

 

There's nothing "sinister" about that eyeball on Master Xehanort's keyblade. Those are the trade-marks of what a keyblade of darkness looks like when it is created from darkness itself. Just like Riku's soul eater keyblade has that eyeball on it, as well as Vanitas's keyblade which has eyeballs on it. Those are nothing but trade-marks of how a keyblade of darkness is made.

 

Yeah, the eyeballs have absolutely no importance at all huh. I know who's Keyblade has the eyeball on that, I already posted who has it on their Keyblade. And then you are giving me an half-assed argument, basically restating the stuff I already said in my first post.

exuse me for opening the conversation just one more time but if soul eater is a keyblade then why the hell do all the cutscenes show riku having soul eater when hes complaning that he wants a keyblade THERES YOUR PROOF if u dont agree thats your problem im just laying out facts that shouldnt even have to be mentioned soul eater isnt a keyblade GET OVER IT

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There's nothing "sinister" about that eyeball on Master Xehanort's keyblade. Those are the trade-marks of what a keyblade of darkness looks like when it is created from darkness itself. Just like Riku's soul eater keyblade has that eyeball on it, as well as Vanitas's keyblade which has eyeballs on it. Those are nothing but trade-marks of how a keyblade of darkness is made.

 

The Way to the Dawn has the "trade-mark" eye, yet it is a Keyblade from the Realm of Light...

 

And Soul Eater is not a Keyblade. It's just a sword.

 

Dude, Soul Eater is a keyblade. But not a keyblade of light, a keyblade of Darkness. And the reason why Way to Dawn has a eyeball on it was pretty much due to Riku being a "Warrior of Twilight".

 

So if I go to Mission Mode, and select Riku....

 

 

Look at that. It clearly says "Sword". Implying that his starting weapon (when you unlock him), is the Soul Eater, which is a SWORD, not a KEYBLADE. Plus, look at it....does it look like a Keyblade to you? It doesn't have the handles like the Keyblade, nor the hinges (those things at the top of the Keyblade, whatever they are called). It doesn't even have a Keychain, yet you think that you can classify this as a Keyblade. Hmmmm.....

 

Warrior of Twilight? Ok, if we're gonna make stuff up, then know what you're talking about. Because I can tell you that I never heard this before, and you better start backing up your stuff.

 

-_- you don't understand, just because it has the word "Sword" in it does not mean it is a actual sword. And yes I told you, it's a keyblade made from darkness itself. So it doesn't have a keychain, just look at the keyblade of heart (the one possessed Riku was holding in KH1), it's a keyblad eand it doesn't have a keychain, yet you don't say it's a "sword" it's a keyblade. So i rest my case.

 

No, I do understand. You don't.

 

I'm pretty sure that when it says "Sword"....it's a sword, buddy.

 

Again, not a Keyblade. Look at it again, does it look like a Keyblade and/or have the characteristics of a Keyblade? No, it does not.

 

So if the Soul Eater is a Keyblade of Darkness, shouldn't it technically come from the Realm of Darkness? The same one where it has the Kingdom Key D- OH WAIT! An actual Keyblade that has all the characteristics of one, and it can unlock doors/keyholes. Your posts make as much as sense as a mentally challenged person trying to argue.

 

The Keyblade of Heart is neither Sword or Keyblade. It is an artifical Keyblade. Pseudo Keyblade. Meaning it's fake. It must be forged by the pure hearts of light from seven princesses. It laters dissolves into hearts. Keyblades don't do that.

 

*facepalms* ugh, you're not getting anything I'm telling you, do you? I am telling the answers right in front of you and yet you choose not to believe me. So yeah, I'm done trying to explain this to you if you're not getting anything. Besides, don't feel like starting an argument here. Go look at all the KH cutscenes and study them carefully, that should get tell you everything you need to know.

 

You didn't get anything I told you from my MX = Nobody thread.

 

What answers? You're magically pulling things out of thin air and pretty making them your proof. I have not seen any links or quotes from Nomura. You have nothing, but you think you're proving a point.

 

4 people, including me, proved you wrong, using reliable source. So all 4 of us are not getting it? That doesn't seem the case. It's funny, because all 4 of us brought proof while you didn't. You completely ignored the other people's posts and only thought the logic way to do this was continue to argue with Deathy here, and you didn't acomplished anything here, only made a fool out of yourself.

 

So I know what I'm talking about, you don't, therefore YOU need to study the KH cutscenes carefully.

 

Guys enough !! , it's a keyblade because at the end the Sould Eater is Way to Dawn and the eye thing because he is in twilight not light or dark

Guys enough !! , it's a keyblade because at the end the Sould Eater is Way to Dawn and the eye thing because he is in twilight not light or dark

 

That is because Soul Eater had some sort of change between when Sora fought Riku-Ansem in his second visit to Land of Dragons and when Riku "rescued" Kairi and Namine from Saix.

 

From what Reversal has said before (I don't entirely remember where she got her information, but she has always been a reliable source of information in the past, that I feel that I can trust what she says.) about how when Sora lost his Keyblade to Riku, but won it back because of the strength of his heart, that some how his wooden sword acted as a base, a foundation for it to return to him or something. Apparently this same thing happened with Riku's weapon Soul Eater. It acted as a base for him to receive Way to the Dawn, but in a much more visible way. It was practically as if the Keyblade never existed till he received it, and that the Keyblade was constructed out of his weapon the Soul Eater.

 

 

See the huge similarities, I know that this is basically an undisputed fact that Soul Eater became Way to the Dawn, but the situation is the same as with Sora. Sora's wooden sword wasn't a Keyblade was it? No it wasn't. Based on the fact that other than Oblivion and Way to the Dawn as weapons for Riku in Mission Mode, his main weapon is Soul Eater, classified as a Sword. It seems reasonable enough to understand that the Kingdom Hearts Developers wouldn't just put that if it weren't true.

 

I do want to comment on what KH125 said about Riku being a "warrior of twilight." Like other people have said, there isn't really any distinct proof of it, but his decision he made at the end of Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories kinda does almost put him in that category. Mainly a warrior who utilizes Darkness but still fights for the Light, a somewhat odd situation but true nonetheless.

 

I'm not sure where the whole thing about the Eye came from. From what I quoted above, he says that it has to do with him being of the Twilight. If that is so, then you basically have to say that Master Xehanort and Vanitas are of the Twilight as well. That isn't true at all, we know that they are both beings totally overcome with wills of Darkness, so I would, myself, believe that the blue Eye represents something else.

 

I'm not sure why people are saying Soul Eater itself is a Keyblade, and there isn't really a need to get in such a fuss about it. I know that it's really weird when there is someone that is saying something with such confidence that is completely the opposite of what you, as a person/group or whatever, are saying, but it's no need to get so upset about, but I kinda feel hypocritical, I've probably done this way too many times, so I don't know.

And the interview to confirm it is not a keyblade (among other things) is here:

We found out that Riku's Keyblade's name is "Way to the Dawn" when examining his item slots after he joined your party. Is that Keyblade a transfigured version of Soul Eater?

I designed it with that image. Since Riku has always been using Soul Eater, he still calls it that even after it changed form. Keyblades aren't something that you can obtain suddenly out of nowhere so in Riku's case, his Soul Eater was used as an intermediary for that Keyblade.

If we directly translate "Way to the Dawn", "dawn" means "in-between night and daytime", so does that mean that Keyblade is from the In-between World? In other words, this means the Keyblades that Sora, King Mickey and Riku wield represent the Worlds of Light, Dark and In-between?

Well, if I have to say where they belong, it's just as you said. But the name of "Way to Dawn" doesn't have to mean that. This name came from the scene at the end of Riku's story in KH:COM that suggested which path he would walk on, where he said "The road to dawn."

 

In Ansem's Other Report #13, DiZ had the unanswered question, "How did Xehanort open the door in Hollow Bastion's underground?" but....

I can't talk about this yet. But, weeell, it's something you can speculate over, I think.

 

Speaking of "opening the door", I'm going to move the subject to the previous game. Why when Riku opened Destiny Island's door, this accidentally called the darkness? Do the powers of Keyblade wielders that are called "Heroes of Light" are connected to darkness?

Currently Sora and co. are the only Keyblade wielders and they're doing things that grant them the titles "Heroes of Light" but, as stated in the first game's Ansem Report #8 and the secret movie this time, the real Keyblade wielders "can bring chaos to the world, just as one can bring peace to it."

I honestly have no clue what it could definately be so here is my best guess: It doesn't hold a lot of meaning but it does connotate the influence of evil darkness. So in master xehanort's keyblade's case, it is just a dark influenced keyblade.

Guys enough !! , it's a keyblade because at the end the Sould Eater is Way to Dawn and the eye thing because he is in twilight not light or dark

 

Did you not read any of one of our posts that contain the information to prove this wrong.

 

Of course you didn't, because trolling on here makes the most sense. Yeah let's disregard all info and make it up without backing it up. Perfect.

 

On topic:

 

The Soul Eater is not the Way to the Dawn, nor is a Keyblade. It transforms into the Way to the Dawn, but it's the same.

 

Keyblades don't magically appear. It just needed a base to do so. Like Sora's Wooden Sword or Roxas' Struggle Bat. Otherwise, through your logic, that would mean they are Keyblades and that would be the most idiotic thing ever.

 

No such thing as Twilight when it comes to Riku or his Keyblade. You guys made it up.

 

The Way to the Dawn, if you read about the Keyblades, is the same type of Keyblade as Sora's Keyblade (Kingdom Key) and the Destiny Embrace (The Keyblade Kairi used). The Kingdom Key comes from the Realm of the Light, making it a Keyblade of Light. Therefore, The Way to the Dawn is a Keyblade of Light, coming from the Realm of Light. So no Twilight is involved.

 

The eyes, if anything, represent a relationship or a connection to Xehanort.

 

Guys enough !! , it's a keyblade because at the end the Sould Eater is Way to Dawn and the eye thing because he is in twilight not light or dark

 

Did you not read any of one of our posts that contain the information to prove this wrong.

 

Of course you didn't, because trolling on here makes the most sense. Yeah let's disregard all info and make it up without backing it up. Perfect.

 

On topic:

 

The Soul Eater is not the Way to the Dawn, nor is a Keyblade. It transforms into the Way to the Dawn, but it's the same.

 

Keyblades don't magically appear. It just needed a base to do so. Like Sora's Wooden Sword or Roxas' Struggle Bat. Otherwise, through your logic, that would mean they are Keyblades and that would be the most idiotic thing ever.

 

No such thing as Twilight when it comes to Riku or his Keyblade. You guys made it up.

 

The Way to the Dawn, if you read about the Keyblades, is the same type of Keyblade as Sora's Keyblade (Kingdom Key) and the Destiny Embrace (The Keyblade Kairi used). The Kingdom Key comes from the Realm of the Light, making it a Keyblade of Light. Therefore, The Way to the Dawn is a Keyblade of Light, coming from the Realm of Light. So no Twilight is involved.

 

The eyes, if anything, represent a relationship or a connection to Xehanort.

 

Alright, sometimes I just try to see if I can figure things out, I'm usually not right in all cases. Never expect to be unless I actually get my information from a reliable source.

exuse me for opening the conversation just one more time but if soul eater is a keyblade then why the hell do all the cutscenes show riku having soul eater when hes complaning that he wants a keyblade THERES YOUR PROOF if u dont agree thats your problem im just laying out facts that shouldnt even have to be mentioned soul eater isnt a keyblade GET OVER IT

 

Can you please stop bitching? ._. I know that KH125 is insisting on somethings but you're not helping by cursing on your post. Anyways, like everyone else said: the soul eater is a sword, not a keyblade.

And thus, concludes why the Soul Eater is not a Keyblade, and why it was ridculous to argue over something like that.

 

I think we should rename this thread since now it went MX's Keyblade to Riku's Keyblade.