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Okay, I know someone has probably done a thread about this. And I know how unlikely this might be, but away we go.

 

Could it be possible that Naminé was created from Ven's body? Think about it, the Ansem's Reports say that Sora created Naminé, but how can that be? After all, Sora's own body and soul were used to create Roxas.

 

Now we know that Sora and Ven are strongly connected from Sora healing Ven's heart. It's clear in the BbS novel that the way Ven acted in most of the game was because of Sora's personality. Is it possible that Naminé, having no other way to be created, used Ven's uneeded body in Castle Oblivion?

 

Need I remind you that Ven's body is missing in the Birth by Sleep Final Mix secret ending? And no one should have been able to get in but Aqua.

 

Now, let's think about this for a minute. Naminé was born in Castle Oblivion because she's a special Nobody. How and why? If she was created there, couldn't it be possible she used Ven's body to come into existance? She'd still be a special Nobody, after all. And after seeing that "The Truth About Naminé: book in Days, I think there's a lot about her existance that we don't know.

 

Another hint that she might be created from Ven is that she has power over Sora's memories. But I've always wondered why. In Re: Coded we learn that Sora has other people's memories inside him (most likely some of Ven's). So if Naminé was created from Ven, it would make sense why she had this ability to manipulate Sora's memories. Not only are the two connected, but Sora has some of Ven's memories inside him.

 

I know a lot of people have theorized that Naminé and Ven could be connected. I mean they look alike (but I don't really count that). And they even act alike in ways. They were both used and really fragile and frail in the beginning. And they both can be quite sad and hold themselves responsible for things.

 

Also, since Ven's heart stayed in Sora's body when his heart became a Heartless, could it have in some way effected Ven? Sora was supposedly used to create two Nododies. When Ven's heart was used to create Roxas, could this have led him create this other Nobody, too?

 

And we do know Naminé knew about Ven. "As for the third... I never really realized it, but... you and he share a very special connection." She didn't know everything about Ven and Sora's connection, but she did know of Ven. And is there more to this connection than meets the eye? The way Naminé said this makes me think so.

 

I know this is very sketchy and we don't know enough. But it is something to think about. And you never know what to expect with Nomura...

 

If nothing else, Naminé and Ven are connected through Sora.

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Nice theory. I doubt it, but well thought out. Since either way (Sora's body or Ven's body) Namine goes through a sex change, either is plausible. But I think this doesn't really account enough for Kairi; afterall, Namine is primarily from Kairi's heart, proved by her appearance and going back into her. I won't tear through the rest of this though.

ehhh namine wasnt created by the heart of kairi that was inside sora body?

ehhh namine wasnt created by the heart of kairi that was inside sora body?

 

She was.

 

What people seem to forget is that not only does Ven dissappear, but so does Sora. However, it's just for show, like in the KH2 secret ending where TAV grab Sora, Mickey, and Riku's Keyblades. It doesn't actually happen.

i didnt think namine had a real body, she didnt seem to be able to leave castle oblivion for a while so im assuming she needed to stay in close quarters with either sora or ventus to retain her form

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Nice theory. I doubt it, but well thought out. Since either way (Sora's body or Ven's body) Namine goes through a sex change, either is plausible. But I think this doesn't really account enough for Kairi; afterall, Namine is primarily from Kairi's heart, proved by her appearance and going back into her. I won't tear through the rest of this though.

 

Thanks. I'm glad you like the theory. I put a lot of thought into it. LOL.

 

Yeah. That part never made sense to me. If she was created from Sora, why return to Kairi? Wouldn't Sora be incomplete without her? It doesn't make sense that it would be Kairi...

Sora didn't create her, he just supplied the Heartless. She was made from Kairi's heart leaving Sora's body.

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Thanks for the support guys! I'm glad you like the theory so much! And, for the heck of it, here are a few things I noted that might hint more at the connection, but they're not as big.

 

1. Naminé acts like Ven in quite a few ways. I mentioned it above, but I forgot to mention she doesn't really act like Sora and Kairi. Weird since she was supposed to be created from them.

 

2. Sora supposedly created Naminé, so it's not weird to think she could have been created from Ven instead. I know you guys didn't argue it, but others might. But as pointed out by deathrebirthsenshi, it's a sex change either way. Knowing that makes the Ven/Nami connection a bit more plausible. LOL.

 

3. Could Naminé's Light apperance (because she's all white) be because all Darkness was stripped from Ven's heart?

 

3. And this isn't really a reason, but there's a clear moment in this video (when Ven and Naminé look up) that they have the same expression on their faces. I don't see it as a reason, but it is fun to look at. LOL.

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Sora didn't create her, he just supplied the Heartless. She was made from Kairi's heart leaving Sora's body.

 

Yes, but I thought the Ansem's Reports said Sora had to supply the body since Kairi couldn't. I could be wrong, and I apologize if I am, but that's the way I remember it.

 

Yes, but I thought the Ansem's Reports said Sora had to supply the body since Kairi couldn't. I could be wrong, and I apologize if I am, but that's the way I remember it.

 

Sora's body turned into Roxas. Namine wasn't made from a body, she's a Nobody in the truest sense.

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Sora's body turned into Roxas. Namine wasn't made from a body, she's a Nobody in the truest sense.

 

That makes sense. Thanks for setting me right. I was just confused because, since Sora's body fades away and is reformed into Roxas, I thought it also could have created Naminé then, too. We never did see them when they were created, and the Reports misled me. Sorry again. And thanks for the help.

I'm sure there is a connection,the reason Namine was born in Castle Oblivion was most likely due to Ven's heart being present within Sora. As for the body thing, it's interesting but I doubt she was fully made out of his body, but she did get blond hair...unlike Kairi's red so maybe that was due to her interaction with Ven :)

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