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THEORY: YMX is Terra (*SPOILERS!*)

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I have a feeling he is and my suspicion was confirmed by Nomura. As he just said that the mysterious figure is a character we know. He's not necessarily new. It's Terra! And I know why. In one part of the game, I think a trailer or picture says this. YMX says to Riku: I chose you from the very beginning. It makes sense now when you put the pieces together. Terra, who was trapped inside of Xehanort, and parts of him where in Xemnas. When he regained his body, he didn't take the form of his other self, he took the form of a younger Xehanort. Similar to Riku in KH2, who was "inside" of Ansem SoD, he regained his body, but later he took the form of Ansem. This is a weird theory I know, but it kinda makes sense. Everything he says sounds similar to Terra, well at least almost. If I find more, I'll see if I can better this theory.

 

EDIT: Parts of YMX are of Terra. That's what I should say. Not all of YMX!

Edited by keytotheheart

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i agree with you.

but 1. he says はじめに選ばれたのはお前だ。what means "you are the one who was choosen from/at the beginning" and not "I choose you from the very beginning"

2. Therefore we donot know if he says it to riku. there is no riku in the picture and he is not mentioned in the sentence...

 

 

for the rest yeah as i said i think you are pretty close. moreover the setting is the releam of sleep .. maybe he donot even have to gain his body back etc ...

I think Nomura was refering to the fact that he was a secret boss in BBS and the fact that he's a Young Master Xehanort.

I know im gonna get hate for this but....Although MF looks like a young MX i still cant help seeing Isa in him .We dont know whats happened to him yet .Famitsu just confirmed Lea and MF being major characters..Could this be Isa? Nomura could definitely do this and thats why he didnt confirm that MF is definitely a young master Xehanort just someone who indeed looks to be.. This would only work if we knew the extent of MFs time manipulation powers though so im not positive of this possibility just throwing the possibility out there.Just sayin' Going out on a limb here...

Edited by axel_lea_lives_on

SPOILER WARNING!!!

think about it guys Master Xeahnort came from destiany islands. riku came from destiany islands. MX has silver hair. Riku has silver hair. MX left the islands a long time ago. Riku told Terra that a boy left the island a long time ago....... do i have to spell it out for you?

BIG SPOILER WARNING!!!!!!

MX and Riku are connected by blood. (*cue gasps*)

SPOILER WARNING!!!

think about it guys Master Xeahnort came from destiany islands. riku came from destiany islands. MX has silver hair. Riku has silver hair. MX left the islands a long time ago. Riku told Terra that a boy left the island a long time ago....... do i have to spell it out for you?

BIG SPOILER WARNING!!!!!!

MX and Riku are connected by blood. (*cue gasps*)

 

Maybe but wouldnt Riku know if that boy was family? You cant assume..Thats why all this is speculation and theories...We just dont know enough about MF to truly say

yes it is a theory. but one that has been around forever, no one has found any evidence agansit it. but you have to remeber, Riku was a little boy. also Terra had a vision of YMX when he talked to Riku.

yes it is a theory. but one that has been around forever, no one has found any evidence agansit it. but you have to remeber, Riku was a little boy. also Terra had a vision of YMX when he talked to Riku.

 

Im not saying its wrong either.Its a definite possibility. I just think if Riku knew the story of the boy leaving i would also think he wouldve heard if he was family too. As for the vision it could just be a reference to both wanting to leave the island or even a premonition of Rikus future possessment by MX

SPOILER WARNING!!!

think about it guys Master Xeahnort came from destiany islands. riku came from destiany islands. MX has silver hair. Riku has silver hair. MX left the islands a long time ago. Riku told Terra that a boy left the island a long time ago....... do i have to spell it out for you?

BIG SPOILER WARNING!!!!!!

MX and Riku are connected by blood. (*cue gasps*)

 

Nomura has already stated that none of the KH characters are family, with the only exception of Kairi and her Grandmother.

 

Also, there must be a reason that Nomura keeps referring to YMX as 'the young boy', and not YMX. Though I don't think it's Terra, because YMX is the one causing the problems with Sora and Riku's MoM exam, and Terra wouldn't do that.

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i agree with you.

but 1. he says はじめに選ばれたのはお前だ。what means "you are the one who was choosen from/at the beginning" and not "I choose you from the very beginning"

2. Therefore we donot know if he says it to riku. there is no riku in the picture and he is not mentioned in the sentence...

 

 

for the rest yeah as i said i think you are pretty close. moreover the setting is the releam of sleep .. maybe he donot even have to gain his body back etc ...

 

Sorry if this is off-topic, but I have a question. How do you know Japanese? The reason I ask is because I'm going to Japan in a year as a 両学生 (International exchange student). How did you learn, did you go to college, and if you did, was it a minor? How long would it take to learn as much Japanese as you. I only know Hiragana, Katakana, VERY little kanji, and VERY little grammar. Thank you!
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I did say I'd change this if I found a better answer.

Edited by keytotheheart

Nomura has already stated that none of the KH characters are family, with the only exception of Kairi and her Grandmother.

 

Also, there must be a reason that Nomura keeps referring to YMX as 'the young boy', and not YMX. Though I don't think it's Terra, because YMX is the one causing the problems with Sora and Riku's MoM exam, and Terra wouldn't do that.

 

Yes yes This

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Yes yes This

 

I didn't say they were family. I knew that. I've read all of the Nomura interviews, and the ultimanias, etc. I know this has nothing to do with me, just pointing that out!

I didn't say they were family. I knew that. I've read all of the Nomura interviews, and the ultimanias, etc. I know this has nothing to do with me, just pointing that out!

 

The first bit I posted about family was directed toward unknown3619 who said they may be connected by blood, aka family. That is why I quoted his post. The second bit was directed at the thread itself.

I didn't say they were family. I knew that. I've read all of the Nomura interviews, and the ultimanias, etc. I know this has nothing to do with me, just pointing that out!

 

I wouldnt sweat it i was refering to someone elses post as you know.

 

The first bit I posted about family was directed toward unknown3619 who said they may be connected by blood, aka family. That is why I quoted his post. The second bit was directed at the thread itself.

 

im glad you remembered that statement about family bc i had forgotten ..But i guess thats bc i never put stock on them ever being family anyways

Edited by axel_lea_lives_on

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The first bit I posted about family was directed toward unknown3619 who said they may be connected by blood, aka family. That is why I quoted his post. The second bit was directed at the thread itself.

 

I know. I was just saying!

I know. I was just saying!

 

Well there's no need to 'just say' when it wasn't directed at you and had nothing to do with you. In fact, it seemed more like bragging, saying you read all the interviews and such.

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Well there's no need to 'just say' when it wasn't directed at you and had nothing to do with you. In fact, it seemed more like bragging, saying you read all the interviews and such.

 

I wasn't bragging. I was just saying I knew that as well because I read all of the interviews. I go online, it's nothing to brag about. I either read on GameFAQs or KH Wiki. Why is there always a problem? I'm not one of those people who brag.

Sorry if this is off-topic, but I have a question. How do you know Japanese? The reason I ask is because I'm going to Japan in a year as a 両学生 (International exchange student). How did you learn, did you go to college, and if you did, was it a minor? How long would it take to learn as much Japanese as you. I only know Hiragana, Katakana, VERY little kanji, and VERY little grammar. Thank you!

 

first i learned it by myself, then i was teached by my boyfriend and friends, then i changed french for japanese in high school as my 5th language.

you will be fine even if you donot know japanese because you will become able to speak it step by step in japan!

 

it took me around 6 months to be able to talk and now 6 years passed. http://kh13.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/happy.png

i am N2 at the moment but i never was like i am studing japanese .. more like i hear it and memorize it (^__-) i am more a natural learning typ!

 

 

 

if you want to become used to the speaking speed then start watching dramas because dramas are more real-life related than anime (and anime language!)

 

 

for the beginning katakana and hiragana re enough! then step by step kanji ... for speaking japanese you donot need the kanji...

 

the grammar is rather unusual for not asian people so you might learn it to get used to it!

try this site http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar

 

 

do you know in which city you will do your exchange?

 

you're welcome ^_-

 

(you can write me a pm if you want)

I didn't say you were bragging, but that it seemed like you were. But that's not the point. The point is that you didn't need to respond to that saying you already knew they weren't related. It wasn't directed at you and it had nothing to do with you.

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first i learned it by myself, then i was teached by my boyfriend and friends, then i changed french for japanese in high school as my 5th language.

you will be fine even if you donot know japanese because you will become able to speak it step by step in japan!

 

it took me around 6 months to be able to talk and now 6 years passed. http://kh13.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/happy.png

i am N2 at the moment but i never was like i am studing japanese .. more like i hear it and memorize it (^__-) i am more a natural learning typ!

 

 

 

if you want to become used to the speaking speed then start watching dramas because dramas are more real-life related than anime (and anime language!)

 

 

for the beginning katakana and hiragana re enough! then step by step kanji ... for speaking japanese you donot need the kanji...

 

the grammar is rather unusual for not asian people so you might learn it to get used to it!

try this site http://www.guidetoja...g/learn/grammar

 

 

do you know in which city you will do your exchange?

 

you're welcome ^_-

 

(you can write me a pm if you want)

 

I have tried Tae Kim's guide. I don't get what you mean by learning by hearing, as you need to know what the word being said means first, I'll ask you about that later. You're an N2, wow that's good, but did that guide teach you everything? I mean, how could you possibly just teach yourself, what other guides are there?

 

For all that don't know: You're ranked for your Japanese language level. N5 is the least knowledge and N1 is fluent. Being N2 or N1 is my dream. So, I suppose you took the test?

 

I don't know which city I'm going to. It's decided once you get there.

Edited by keytotheheart

Good theory, but I personally don't think YMX is Terra. He has that air of malevolence about him that just doesn't fit Terra. He seems to be causing trouble for Sora and Riku, and Terra wouldn't cause trouble, if anything he would help the heroes in their mission. I still think the mysterious young man = Master Xehanort in the dream realm, due to the fact that both Sora and Riku are younger versions of themselves. But this is merely speculation based on appearance, and only time will tell.

I don't think the screenshot says "I chose you" but "You were the chosen one, from the very beginning" Meaning he was the true Master of the Keyblade as we've seen. They wouldn't give that away so quickly.

I kinda have to agree with both Terra and Isanort theories.

The only way he could know is if he had some sort of memory from Terra. But he does use Saïx's body model, and when I look at him he does look a lot like Isa. We'll have to wait and see.

Edited by Kinode

i haf to disagree with this. I think MF meant that he chose riku from the beginning to complete some sorta mission to him, but since riku refused it might be that MF then uses Sora instead as we can see him unconscious at Where Nothing Gathers. I think thats what it is.

yes it is a theory. but one that has been around forever, no one has found any evidence agansit it. but you have to remeber, Riku was a little boy. also Terra had a vision of YMX when he talked to Riku.

 

when did terra have that vision of ymx ttalking to riku?

when did terra have that vision of ymx ttalking to riku?

 

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