Ok, you know how in the ending of birth by sleep, we see Lea and Isa being kicked out of the hollow bastion castle? (proper name?)

Lea was the one that wanted to go in, and he dragged Isa along.

Lea probably wanted to learn about keyblades! Since Ansem the Wise knew all about them, he probably wanted to learn more from him and maybe even learn how to get a keyblade. When Lea became Axel, he probably forgot his dream to become a keyblade master because of all the Organizationy stuff they were working at. (well, Axel rebelled, but you know.) Since Lea woke up, he didn't know what to do because he wasn't working for Organization 13 anymore. But THEN he remembers that he wanted to learn how to use a keyblade, and since he didn't know where Ansem the Wise was, he decided to visit none other than good ol' Yen Sid!

 

Is there anyone that disagrees with my logic? have a feeling there will be, there always is

Maybe, I don't think there's enough evidence to support that theory but it could be possible.

WRONG!

 

Jk.

 

I do like that, but unless somebody was flaunting a Keyblade around Radiant Gardens before V/A/T, Mickey, and MX, I don't know where Lea would have found out about one.

 

I do like everything else, if this little plot hole could be fixed.

It didnt look like Lea was forcing Isa to come along .If anything it was Isa that wanted Lea to quit firetrucking around so they could go do whatever they were "ready " for..Lea was obviously very rambunctious and inquisitive so im sure the castle was tempting to explore which seems to be what they were trying to do..We dont even know if they knew what keyblades were . They were already on their way to the castle when they found Ven..I think Lea needed one after he revived bc he knew what he was getting himself into and knew it would probably be necessary

uh sounds good . but the signs we have are against the possibilty. it would be cool!

not very likely, but i'm sure we'll find out sooner or later

That's possible! I'm sure KH3 will explain the reason for Lea & Isa wanting to get in the caste. It's obviously highlighted so it's probably really important to the plot in the future.

That's possible! I'm sure KH3 will explain the reason for Lea & Isa wanting to get in the caste. It's obviously highlighted so it's probably really important to the plot in the future.

 

If we live to see that future

I like the theory but like DkrisXIII said, more evidence is needed.

This theory seems possible. Honestly, think. What other reason would Lea break into the castle? He's not stupid enough to do it for no reason.

no.......

I believe that Isa being a part of the Darkness 13 has to do with Axel picking Roxas over him than anything else.

I believe that Isa being a part of the Darkness 13 has to do with Axel picking Roxas over him than anything else.

 

No no and finally NO...Isa is possessed by Xehanort thats why he has the gold eyes and pointed ears.He was one of the 'successful ' vessels . Im sure this also changed his personality more significantly that helped contribute to the rift in the friendship. However its NOT why hes one of the 13 darknesses. Its bc hes a Nort now.

Edited April 19, 201213 yr by axel_lea_lives_on

No no and finally NO...Isa is possessed by Xehanort thats why he has the gold eyes and pointed ears.He was one of the 'successful ' vessels . Im sure this also changed his personality more significantly that helped contribute to the rift in the friendship. However its NOT why hes one of the 13 darknesses. Its bc hes a Nort now.

 

Ansem the Wise had the gold eyes and the pointed ears, and he was not possessed. Check a still picture of him near the end of KH2.

Ansem the Wise had the gold eyes and the pointed ears, and he was not possessed. Check a still picture of him near the end of KH2.

 

Technically that still could be possible .Secondly his eyes are orange not gold . Thirdly its confirmed Isa is possessed just like Braig is. Finally go play Days and read the reports on what really happened to that friendship..

Technically that still could be possible .Secondly his eyes are orange not gold . Thirdly its confirmed Isa is possessed just like Braig is. Finally go play Days and read the reports on what really happened to that friendship..

 

No no and finally NO...Isa is possessed by Xehanort thats why he has the gold eyes and pointed ears.He was one of the 'successful ' vessels . Im sure this also changed his personality more significantly that helped contribute to the rift in the friendship. However its NOT why hes one of the 13 darknesses. Its bc hes a Nort now.

 

This and this watch the translated cutscenes it explains it in full detail Isa has a fragment of Xehanort's heart which is why He is a darkness. Arguement closed

Edited April 19, 201213 yr by devereauxr

This and this watch the translated cutscenes it explains it in full detail Isa has a fragment of Xehanort's heart which is why He is a darkness. Arguement closed

 

IKR !! How could someone miss this ? lol

Finally go play Days and read the reports on what really happened to that friendship..

 

Factoring hectopascals!

 

I have played Days, currently my favorite KH game, and read the secret reports. Saix was bemoaning the fact that Axel was turning away from their origional plan to take over the organization and spending time with Roxas and the pupppet (Xion).

 

N-factorial!

 

Also, Isa now has a portion of MX's darkness in him, but why was he chosen? Is it because he took the road into darkness to try to regain his heart when he was a Nobody? The last thing that Saix asked before he disappeared into darkness was where was his heart.

Edited April 19, 201213 yr by Roxas Illini

Factoring hectopascals!

 

I have played Days, currently my favorite KH game, and read the secret reports. Saix was bemoaning the fact that Axel was turning away from their origional plan to take over the organization and spending time with Roxas and the pupppet (Xion).

 

N-factorial!

 

FFS did you not read where axel says isa has changed not him ?? or how axel feels he cant talk to isa like he used to bc of this ? Isa's behavior caused the rift in the first place and further pushed lea away and even more towards roxas and xion.. Furthermore like its already been pointed out ..ISA IS POSSESSED BY XEHANORT ..thats why hes a darkness..period ...simply amazing how simple this is yet you still dont get it...Isa was chosen for the exact same reason the other organization members were chosen since they were all intended to be vessels.Even roxas.. he didnt take a road to darkness. Matter of fact he uses light...as for the other members half of them werent dark either .nomura even said they were normal everyday humans beforehand.

 

Oh and the reports are canon derp.Nuff' said

Edited April 19, 201213 yr by axel_lea_lives_on

FFS did you not read where axel says isa has changed not him ?? or how axel feels he cant talk to isa like he used to bc of this ? Isa's behavior caused the rift in the first place and further pushed lea away and even more towards roxas and xion.. Furthermore like its already been pointed out ..ISA IS POSSESSED BY XEHANORT ..thats why hes a darkness..period ...simply amazing how simple this is yet you still dont get it

 

Oh and the reports are canon derp.Nuff' said

 

This because it's obviously displayed in cannon in game content

Edited April 19, 201213 yr by devereauxr

Saix and Axel both accuse the other one of changing.

Saix and Axel both accuse the other one of changing.

 

What does this have to do with Isa being possesd by Xehanort

Saix and Axel both accuse the other one of changing.

 

That has NOTHING to do with why Saix/Isa is a darkness... And if you read it , Axel says it wasnt him that changed but Isa did ..All of the org members were intended to be vessels but not all were successful . Isa was though hence his possessment . I cant break this down any simpler . Do you have a VALID point yet bc ive yet to see one . Furthermore AX put a piece of his HEART in the org members when he did what he did to them .This happened wayyyyyy before their friendship broke . The more Saix became a nort the worse he acted and changed .

Edited April 19, 201213 yr by axel_lea_lives_on

That has NOTHING to do with why Saix/Isa is a darkness... And if you read it , Axel says it wasnt him that changed but Isa did ..All of the org members were intended to be vessels but not all were successful . Isa was though hence his possessment . I cant break this down any simpler . Do you have a VALID point yet bc ive yet to see one . Furthermore AX put a piece of his HEART in the org members when he did what he did to them .This happened wayyyyyy before their friendship broke . The more Saix became a nort the worse he acted and changed .

 

I do not see you points. Axel's statement was an OPINION, not necessarily a FACT!!! It was not until the middle of Days where the friendship of Saix and Axel broke. Saix sent Axel to try to discover the Chamber of Wakening to try to learn what Xemnas's true plan was right after the vacation mission. Once they had that information, Saix believed that they could overthrow Xemnas. Axel's continued friendship with Roxas and Xion matured him and led him away from their plan. Axel would not admit that he had changed, so he accused Saix of changing instead of him.

 

Also, if you look at the known members of the Darkness 13, the top 3 members of Organization 13 are their. I believe the broken off friendship led Saix to get too involved in Organization 13's true purpose, even if he was not aware of it. That is my theory of why he is still a member.

I do not see you points. Axel's statement was an OPINION, not necessarily a FACT!!! It was not until the middle of Days where the friendship of Saix and Axel broke. Saix sent Axel to try to discover the Chamber of Wakening to try to learn what Xemnas's true plan was right after the vacation mission. Once they had that information, Saix believed that they could overthrow Xemnas. Axel's continued friendship with Roxas and Xion matured him and led him away from their plan. Axel would not admit that he had changed, so he accused Saix of changing instead of him.

 

Also, if you look at the known members of the Darkness 13, the top 3 members of Organization 13 are their. I believe the broken off friendship led Saix to get too involved in Organization 13's true purpose, even if he was not aware of it. That is my theory of why he is still a member.

 

Both of them changed but Siax leaned towards the darkness because he was powerful enough to harbor a piece of Xehanort's heart. Like Young Xehanort, Master Xehanort and Briag all confirmed MX's will would eventually completely overwhelm anyone who harbor one his fragments making them a clone of MX.

I do not see you points. Axel's statement was an OPINION, not necessarily a FACT!!! It was not until the middle of Days where the friendship of Saix and Axel broke. Saix sent Axel to try to discover the Chamber of Wakening to try to learn what Xemnas's true plan was right after the vacation mission. Once they had that information, Saix believed that they could overthrow Xemnas. Axel's continued friendship with Roxas and Xion matured him and led him away from their plan. Axel would not admit that he had changed, so he accused Saix of changing instead of him.

 

Also, if you look at the known members of the Darkness 13, the top 3 members of Organization 13 are their. I believe the broken off friendship led Saix to get too involved in Organization 13's true purpose, even if he was not aware of it. That is my theory of why he is still a member.

 

Wow you are utterly clueless to what im saying . Saix was literally changing bc of the piece of AXs heart that was put in every member bc they were all intended to be vessels. FFS braig admitted in DDD to already be half MX bc hes slowly turning into him bc of the same reason Saix is changing into MX..Saix HAD changed literally and figuratively..The piece of AXs heart is changing him physically,mentally and personality wise. Which contributed to the breakdown of the Isa/ Lea friendship when Saix was cruel and litterally an asshole. He pushed Axel away with this behavior..Axel was growing a heart so in a way he was changing but not in the way Isa was .Isa mocked Axel bc he wanted to feel and Axel resented it . No one said that their friendship was ruined since the beginning .It broke down over the span of Days into KH2..But the reason that Saix was changing was already set in motion from the point of being possessed onward .The more time passed the more he turned into Xehanort. Thus causing more breakage in the friendship..What part of this dont you get ? You clearly have no idea what you are talking about . This isnt an opinion this is FACTS from the games itself. Since hes part Xehanort , Isa has no choice . Did you not see MX smile and then see Isa leap to attack ? You know why ? Mx can communicate with them bc they are HIM without even speaking . You need to get your information and facts straight bc clearly you dont know whats going on .

Edited April 19, 201213 yr by axel_lea_lives_on