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*SPOILERS* Kingdom Hearts 3 Disney Villains + Plot

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The Disney Villains were all truly epic. In Kingdom Hearts 1 they served as major antagonists. In Kingdom Hearts 2 they had significanty smaller roles. I want them to have a major role in the plot again in Kingdom Hearts 3. KH3 shouldn't just focus on it's own chacracters. It should focus mainly on it's own characters that I agree with, but the Disney villains should still have a major role in KH3.

 

I can just imagine the re-alliance of the Disney Villains in Hollow Boastion, Villain's Vale or Ansem's Castle with "Villain of a Sort" playing in the background and only their shadows showing. The villains all doubling in count (13: Maleficent, Hades, Captain Hook, Oogie Boogie, Ursula, Jafar, Doctor Faciller, Judge Claude Frollo, Scar, Pete, The Horned King, Barbossa/Dutchman, Shan Yu).

 

The Disney villains NEED to have a larger role in KH3, if not then the same as in Kingdom

Hearts 1. This is why many fans favor this first's plot over the second's

 

Disney Villains: New and Old

 

Maleficent(Sleeping Beauty): The mistress of all

evil, the female devil, whatever you want to call

her. Despite the fact that she's one of the major

antagonist of the plot and the main Disney

villain, she needs to have a slightly larger role in

KH3.

 

Ursula(The Little Mermaid): I don't like fugly

Ursala's appearance but I do like her villainous

character. It wouldn't feel the same without her.

 

Hades(Hercules): He's been in just about every game and inevitably will be in KH3. His role has nearly stayed the same in every game and

should be equal to his role in KH1.

 

Jafar(Aladdin): Maybe he'll get plot kai'd again

and return in Kingdom Hearts 3. His words are

trully villainous and touching /sniffles/.

 

Oogie Boogie(The Nightmare Before Christmas): What reunion would it be without him? Funny,

evil, disgusting.. any other possible words to

describe him? Maleficent could still use him as

he isn't COMPLETLEY useless.

 

Captain Hook(Peter Pan): There's no doubt out all that he

defiantly survived his Crocodile attack in

Kingdom Hearts 1. I also believe the world

(Neverland) is too clasic to be left out of KH3.

 

Doctor Faciler(The Princess and the Frog): Like I previously stated, an epic villain. He's one of the most popular Disney villains so why leave him

out? LOL the Princess and the Frog is beyond

inevitable at this point.

 

Judge Claude Frollo(The Hunchback of Notre Dame): Well I completley forgot hid role in DDD but unless I'm mistaken, he ain't dead. His political power over Notre Dame is so overwhelming. He's just too badass to be left out of Maleficent's secret evil villain clan in Hollow Boastion.

 

The Horned King(The Black Cauldron): Despite not being known for his popularity, The Horned King is still a good villain. Perfect appearence, voice, intentions, now all he needs are special powers.. None the less, he should be in KH3 and deserves more fan respect.

 

Scar(The Lion King): Scar already died and I forgot about that ghost shit. Hopefully he'll be revived with Maleficent's powers and Tetsuya Nomura's trolling abilities. He actually would've been in Kingdom Hearts 1 along with the other Disney villains is the PlayStation 2 didn't firetruck up his 3D-Model.

 

Pete(Steamboat Willy): Pete's never been to one of Maleficent's evil villain clan meetings before. Poor guy. Anyway, I could defiantly see him blabering on and debating with the other villains on the situation.

 

Barbossa/Dutchman(Pirates of the Carribean):

It doesn't matter which one is in Kingdom Hearts 3. As long as one of them are there, I'll be satisfied. I don't wanna see Barbossa get haxed back to life so Dutchman is the more likely choice.

 

Shan Yu(Mulan): Was already in Kingdom Hearts 2. I have no clue why he barely even talked. If Pete can manage to recruit him than the Disney villains will become Disney Organization XIII.

 

In order for the Disney villains to have a larger role and stand a chance against Xehanort/The Org, there has to be a lot of them all on the same side.

 

My theory on their main objective will be in another thread. Please state what Disney villains you want in Kingdom Hearts 3 and what you want their plot to be.

Edited by Razorwind Keyblade

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I do agree that KH3 should show more of the power of the Disney villains. Although, your statement about Barbossa doesnt truely stand as he did come back in the movies, so he would be back but as a good guy against Dutchman, but still villain to Jack and Sora.

I do agree that KH3 should show more of the power of the Disney villains. Although, your statement about Barbossa doesnt truely stand as he did come back in the movies, so he would be back but as a good guy against Dutchman, but still villain to Jack and Sora.

 

You make a very good argument.

I agree that the disney villains should have a larger role in the KH series but I don't necessarily believe it should be in KH3 .. I'd say let things finish with the Xehanort saga with some small hints of Maleficent doing whatever the hell she's plotting for the next arc.

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You make a very good argument.

 

Quite the contrary, he simply proved my Barbossa theory to be invalid. If he does return than he'll either A. Side with Jack and Sora and aid in defeating the Flying Dutchman or B. Become the main antagonist of Port Royal once more.

Quite the contrary, he simply proved my Barbossa theory to be invalid. If he does return than he'll either A. Side with Jack and Sora and aid in defeating the Flying Dutchman or B. Become the main antagonist of Port Royal once more.

 

That's why I said good argument. lol Because he proved the theory to be invalid. Now yes, he may return either way, but your thread was about Disney villains.

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I agree that the disney villains should have a larger role in the KH series but I don't necessarily believe it should be in KH3 .. I'd say let things finish with the Xehanort saga with some small hints of Maleficent doing whatever the hell she's plotting for the next arc.

 

A KH game with Maleficent and the Disney villains being the MAIN villains of the game? I somehow can't see that happening.

A KH game with Maleficent and the Disney villains being the MAIN villains of the game? I somehow can't see that happening.

 

well she's got to have something good going for her, otherwise why keep her? but I see your point.
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well she's got to have something good going for her, otherwise why keep her? but I see your point.

 

She's the only character that takes coded seriously, as she desires the Digital Worlds more than anything else.

While this tread IS about KH3, whats going to happen after? I mean, The whole plot is basically explained. There really are no mysteries left, besides who the all 13 vessels are, and that is going to be answered in KH3. What could the next arc be? Maybe they will bring in some new characters. But how? Whats next?

If they have a major plotline with Disney villians (unlikely since KH3 is supposed to wrap up the MX storyline) then it should be a balance of well known, well loved villians with creepy ones we don't pay that much attention too. Or just classic Disney villians.

 

While this tread IS about KH3, whats going to happen after? I mean, The whole plot is basically explained. There really are no mysteries left, besides who the all 13 vessels are, and that is going to be answered in KH3. What could the next arc be? Maybe they will bring in some new characters. But how? Whats next?

 

It will still be Sora as the main character, Nomura himself said so, but they will probably have a new villian rise from MX's shadow to wreck havoc on the world's.
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While this tread IS about KH3, whats going to happen after? I mean, The whole plot is basically explained. There really are no mysteries left, besides who the all 13 vessels are, and that is going to be answered in KH3.

What could the next arc be? Maybe they will

bring in some new characters. But how? Whats next?

 

That's a great question. I also took it into thought myself. The new saga seems quite questionable. What would Nomura do for the series after the Xehanort Saga?

 

Also, can anyone see my video?

It would kind of be a major slap in the face to the players if ALL the Disney villains were to just simply return (AKA: RIPOFF!) , especially since half of them never made reappearances following their respective films. Maleficent, Pete, and Hades are the only ones I could imagine returning to the series. The rest should be new additions.

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It would kind of be a major slap in the face to the players if ALL the Disney villains were to just simply return (AKA: RIPOFF!) , especially since half of them never made reappearances following their respective films. Maleficent, Pete,

and Hades are the only ones I could imagine

returning to the series. The rest should be new

additions.

 

Nomura also known as "Trollmura" is good at trolling the Kingdom Hearts series. I believe he'd be able to return all the previous Disney villains with a reasonable explanation. You may call it "ripoffs" but in the end, it all balls down to what Nomura likes.

 

And can you see the video on your computer? I posted it on a iPhone.

Edited by Razorwind Keyblade

Nomura also known as "Trollmura" is good at trolling the Kingdom Hearts series. I believe he'd be able to return all the previous Disney villains with a reasonable explanation. You may call it "ripoffs" but in the end, it all balls down to what Nonura likes.

 

And can you see the video on your computer? I posted it on a iPhone.

 

Well, true, Nomura has that annoying tendency. But seeing as how KHIII will be the final installment, at least for a while, I think he'll make an effort to focus on new worlds, ergo new villains. He's obviously already taken an interest in Pixar, so that's one thing to consider. And you'll notice that the only returning Disney Villains in KH3D were Ursula, Maleficent, and Pete; all of which played relatively minor and irrelevant roles in the game. At that extent, I think he'll continue to grow bored of including too many familiar faces and try to implement new Disney antagonists, hopefully with roles that are on par to their placements in the first game's overall plot.

 

Maleficent and Pete are definitely going to be returning, seeing as how Nomura kept those two at his mercy for so long now. I think you're right about Hades. He appears in just about every entry in the series and, well, let's face it, he's a fun villain to have around. Also, I do believe Barbossa could return, though not as a villain. I'd like to see him unite with Jack and the other Pirate lords in the struggle against Davy Jones. :)

 

Yeah, the video looks fine! I've actually been looking for that scene on Youtube for a while now, so thank you! http://kh13.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/happy.png

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Well, true, Nomura has that annoying tendency. But seeing as how KHIII will be the final installment, at least for a while, I think he'll make an effort to focus on new worlds, ergo new villains. He's obviously already taken an interest in Pixar, so that's one thing to consider. And you'll notice that the only returning Disney Villains in KH3D were Ursula, Maleficent, and Pete; all of which played relatively minor and irrelevant roles in the game. At that extent, I think he'll continue to grow bored of including too many familiar faces and try to implement new Disney antagonists, hopefully with roles that are on par to their placements in the first game's overall plot.

 

Maleficent and Pete are definitely going to be returning, seeing as how Nomura kept those two at his mercy for so long now. I think you're right about Hades. He appears in just about every entry in the series and, well, let's face it, he's a fun villain to have around. Also, I do believe Barbossa could return, though not as a villain. I'd like to see him unite with Jack and the other Pirate lords in the struggle against

Davy Jones. :)

 

Yeah, the video looks fine! I've actually been looking for that scene on Youtube for a while now, so thank you! http://kh13.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/happy.png

 

Oh, no problem and I don't think Malificent's role could ever be re-taken.

What about Morgana from The Little Mermaid 2 or Black Bread from On Stranger Tides, Black bread is way cooler than Davy Jones in terms of villiany. And Morgana should be more likely than Ursala cause Ursala has alreaddy been killed twice (once in KH and once in KH2). What about Mosin Ra from the Aladdin TV series and ( a little more likely) the guy with the golden claw thing from Aladdin and the king of thieves. Oh and Gothel from Tangled was a good villian too. and Since Disney owns Marvel, Square might even consider putting villains like Magneto and The Green Goblin!

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What about Morgana from The Little Mermaid 2 or Black Bread from On Stranger Tides, Black bread is way cooler than Davy Jones in terms of villiany. And Morgana should be more likely than Ursala cause Ursala has alreaddy been killed

twice (once in KH and once in KH2). What

about Mosin Ra from the Aladdin TV series and

( a little more likely) the guy with the golden

claw thing from Aladdin and the king of thieves.

Oh and Gothel from Tangled was a good villian

too. and Since Disney owns Marvel, Square

might even consider putting villains like Magneto

and The Green Goblin!

 

Oh my god dude, can't you take a damn hint? Kingdom Hearts has absoloutley nothing to do with Marvel. Disney just owns Marbel because they went Bankruput. Square Enix would never consider putting "Magneto" or "Green Goblin" in a Disney-Final Fantasy RPG.

 

So long as you believe this, you won't get proper respect from Kingdom Hearts nor Marvel fans. Kingdom Hearts WILL not include Marvel. Now please stop with your silly wishes, the thought of Magneto or Green Goblin talking along with Maleficent or Judge Claude Frollo makes me sick.

If respect from fans means giving up the right to have an opinion then I don't think I want you to "respect" me. All I did was state a possibility which I would advise you to take with a grain of salt. As a long-time KH fan, I want to see the franchise grow and if the thought of Magneeto and Maleficent on the same stage makes you sick then I respect your opinion. I would advise you to do the same with others and not pass rash judgements!

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If respect from fans means giving up the right to have an opinion then I don't think I want you to "respect" me. All I did was state a possibility which I would advise you to take with a grain of salt. As a long-time KH fan, I want to see the

franchise grow and if the thought of Magneeto

and Maleficent on the same stage makes you

sick then I respect your opinion. I would advise

you to do the same with others and not pass

rash judgements!

 

You still don't get it do you? Marvel has nothing to do with Disney as far as shows and characters go and will NEVER, EVER come to the Kingdom Hearts series.

Firstly can we stop this useless agruement!

Secondly none of us know what the future holds and we never can.

Finally I merely stated a possibility and I acknoledge that its mimnute. Hence I said Square "might" consider it!

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Firstly can we stop this useless agruement!

Secondly none of us know what the future holds and we never can.

Finally I merely stated a possibility and I acknoledge that its mimnute. Hence I said Square "might" consider it!

 

No, square will not consider it because it has nothing to do with the plot. It's a Disney RPG with FF and TWEWY characters. If they add Marvel then they'll have to add Street Fighter as well.

Like I said this agruement is useless and its clear that niether of us will benifit from it so let's end it here and let's talk about the other Disney-related possibilities I precviously stated

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Like I said this agruement is useless and its clear that niether of us will benifit from it so let's end it here and let's talk about the other Disney-related possibilities I precviously stated

 

Useless yet you brought it up? I'm just making a point clear to you, Marvel has nothing to do with Kingdom Hearts and you can't say otherwise.

Useless yet you brought it up? I'm just making a point clear to you, Marvel has nothing to do with Kingdom Hearts and you can't say otherwise.

 

You chose to argue about it and I am trying my best to end it. LETS GIVE IT A REST ALREADY! Jeez !!! Lighten up a bit! :huh:

Oh and calling me silly is NOT making a point clear to me!

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