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This is something that is not really well known since KH3D just revealed it. I have a friend who is a major KH fan and she knows of it as well. We talked about it and came to these conclusions:

  • Time Travel should not be spoken of much (rarely really) since it's a dark form a magic.
  • Time Travel messes with the natural order of events and destiny.
  • Time Travel holds dire consequences if not done correctly.
  • What happens to the body and heart during time travel is one of the mysteries of the heart that may not be explained until KH3.

So what do any of you think about this? Make theories and ask questions here.

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1.  What!?

 

I agree with numbers 2 and 3

For 4. I think personally that the body would be sleeping somewhere in a sleeping-like state and the heart would go into the Lanes Between at very, very high speed as if going through a wormhole or something, until it drops the heart to a point of time where your future self exists in. That's my theory.

Edited by Tom13

I think KH3D sets up some excellent rules for time travel so that it doesn't get abused or anything like that. But that makes the Timeless River part in KH2 a plot hole...

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For 4. I think personally that the body would be sleeping somewhere in a sleeping-like state and the heart would go into the Lanes Between at very, very high speed as if going through a wormhole or something, until it drops the heart to a point of time where your future self exists in. That's my theory.

That's just it, all aspects of a time era (including people) must continue since those are the laws of time. Also, how does one reform their body when they reach the destination? What happens to their self in their proper time era when they are in a different era?

 

1.  What!?

We both believe that every aspect of it is too ghastly to discuss.

I don't see how Time Travel could work, because if it has already happened, then the changes would have already happened in the past and therefore already altered the future, meaning nothing would appear to be abnormal to us. Who knows? We could have had three arms, but someone in the future went back to the past and made it so we had two. Nothing would be different from our standpoint, which is why I feel Time Travel is unnecessary and not needed in titles like Kingdom Hearts. The story used to be great, but now its becoming cliche. 

Well YX said that it's actually impossible to change the outcome of events, remember?

"First, you must leave behind your body to do it.

Also there must be a version of yourself waiting at the desired point.

Once there you can only move forward, as per the laws of time dictate.

And you cannot change the events that are destined to occur."

 

Or you can summon a magic door to the past and firetruck the rules.

Edited by Sora_Kuno

That's just it, all aspects of a time era (including people) must continue since those are the laws of time. Also, how does one reform their body when they reach the destination? What happens to their self in their proper time era when they are in a different era?

 

We both believe that every aspect of it is too ghastly to discuss.

 

 

 

I can pretty much assume that the Heart just use's it's power to reform that same body, or create a Replica of it.

1- Didn't really get what you're saying. Dark magic? Cannot be spoken of? Unless you be more specific, I couldn't agree less...

2- Not in KH, i don't think so. They KNEW what was gonna happen, and didn't change anything. If they could, do you the Organization wouldn't have already achieved their goals? They merely saw what would happen til the moment all of them met in Where Nothing Gathers.

Also, you cannot change destiny. Otherwise, it wouldn't be destiny...

3- There's a wrong way to do it?! Well, you have to leave your body behind. I never really got how YMX could travel without abandonign his body, I just came up with a theory: Since Ansem SoD had already left his body behind, he fufilled the need, so that YMX wouldn't have to. 

4- Body must be left behind. The Heart is the "essence" that travels in Time. I think it's cleared up.

 

Master Xehanort sated the rules of Time Travel. Sora_Kuno already posted it, so i don't think I ahve to put it again:

I never really got this part. Ansem Seeker of Darkness breaks the rule of only moving forward in time. In fact he's the one that goes deeper, back to his youth, as YMX.

And like I said before, YMX breaks the rule of leaving the body behind. I never really got this...

I feel like this deserves a pic someone from the site made some time ago. I saved it xD

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Well YX said that it's actually impossible to change the outcome of events, remember?

"First, you must leave behind your body to do it.

Also there must be a version of yourself waiting at the desired point.

Once there you can only move forward, as per the laws of time dictate.

And you cannot change the events that are destined to occur."

 

Or you can summon a magic door to the past and firetruck the rules.

Yeah but the thing is Young Xehanort's own word were "My appointed path is now etched into my heart, which will first lead me to seek the outside world." In other words Young Xehanort's future was secured by his involvement in the future. His path has been manufactured by MX and therefore was not necessarily destined to occur.

It's a temporal causality loop. MX set YX's path because when he was YX he himself had his path set by his future self and so on ad infinitum.Basically it was destined that MX would set his younger self's path.

@AntonioKH. Ansem SoD didn't really break the rule of only moving forward in time.Once he got to the DI of the past and did what he needed to do he stayed there moving at the pace of the world until he encounters Sora at the Secret Place.Basically he was lurking on the islands for 60 years and only left when they were swallowed by darkness.

I think what they mean by "you can only move froward as per the laws of time dictate" is that once you get to the past you cannot jump to the more recent past or the future without first returning to the present. Here's a diagram to illustrate what I'm trying to say.You can't goYear 10 -> Year 1 -> Year 5You have to goYear 10 -> Year 1 -> Year 10 -> Year 5

As for YX not having to leave his body behind maybe he didn't travel under his own power. Maybe he was summoned by MX. Having discarded his body once maybe he still has the power to travel and bring others through time even after becoming whole again.

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1- Didn't really get what you're saying. Dark magic? Cannot be spoken of? Unless you be more specific, I couldn't agree less...

You know how in Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban when Dumbledore says that the consequences of Harry and Hermione being seen are too ghastly to discuss when they go back in time to free Sirius Black? We believe it is the same thing with KH Time Travel. The explanations of how it is done can sometimes get to a point where one really should not know because it is too "graphic" (so to speak).

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