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Great, now I feel bad for enjoying the moments where I could beat the shit out of him.

i've feel sorry for Pete though after reading that post...

Pete's always been a bad guy, not in the literal sense like he's an awful person he's just a little selfish, but I think he knows right from wrong. He likes the tough look he has, but I think in the end if Mickey gave him the option to come back to Disney Castle if he helped them he'd definitely consider it. Maleficent kinda has him by the balls though because she's too damn intimidating to try and leave and I think he sees being around her gives him more power to feed his ego. Pete is still a good guy though, hell he comes from Disney, and I don't think he sees ruling the worlds as being that evil, I mean everyone wants power, and I'm pretty sure if he saw Maleficent just killing unhostile innocents like flies he might actually take a stand. I mean even the way Pete fights it's not like he's trying to kill, heartless only cause you to become heartless and he himself only brawls. Pete's like Jack Spicer or Doofenshmirtz, a big goof who just sees being the bad guy as something cool and different, in the end he won't go too far in the dark direction, if anything I can see him helping defeat Maleficent or Xehanort coming back, or just sabotage them while faking like he doesn't mean to just to help without actually leaving the bad guys, kinda like a sidekick who won't leave their villain but might foil their plan to keep them from going too far. I don't really know how to explain it, but I hope someone understands. Pete's more of an anti-hero if anything I guess. Also I think it'd be epic if something like that happens and Goofy brings up their past saying they were friends once to try and convince him just as a nod to Goof Troop and the movies, but I'd still prefer he stays as a bad guy, him and Maleficent work great as those bad guys who stay around without really succeeding and Maleficent already had a spotlight as a primary antagonist in the original Kingdom Hearts so there's no need to again.

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I never got into the classic Disney shorts, but looking at Goof Troop and the Goofy movies shows Pete has a different set of morals compared to Goofy, and by extension, Mickey.

 

He's more mellowed out in this continuity, from what I hear (the setting and plot are a more mundane slice-of-life urban affair), but Pete still shows much of his usual tendencies here.  He's not actively malicious--though he's proud of his used car salesman job--but he can be considered the "antagonist" of the series simply because of his attitude and how he's against Goofy.  Pete's exasperation with Goofy a lot of the time just stems from Goofy screwing something up for Pete, so it's not always unjustified, but their personalities can clash with each other.  It reflects in the way they run their families.

 

Goofy can discipline Max but Pete obviously runs a tight ship.  It might relate to what you wrote here.  For the most part, his family respects him.  His wife and daughter love him, his son fears him (or at least usually doesn't go against him), he has a job he likes and it pays for that sweet two-story house.  Pete probably isn't as bitter here like in KH because overall, he has what he wants.  Get rid of Goofy and his life would be perfect, though of course, his methods to do so often cement him as a total asshat.  Goof Troop shows Pete as someone who's relatively more well-adjusted, someone more along the lines of his Timeless River incarnation.  It might reflect what Pete can be, and what Pete wants to be.

 

I wonder if this is a tl;dr version of me wanting Max and PJ in KH, but hey, doing so can give Pete what he wants without having to work with Maleficent.

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I never got into the classic Disney shorts, but looking at Goof Troop and the Goofy movies shows Pete has a different set of morals compared to Goofy, and by extension, Mickey.

 

He's more mellowed out in this continuity, from what I hear (the setting and plot are a more mundane slice-of-life urban affair), but Pete still shows much of his usual tendencies here.  He's not actively malicious--though he's proud of his used car salesman job--but he can be considered the "antagonist" of the series simply because of his attitude and how he's against Goofy.  Pete's exasperation with Goofy a lot of the time just stems from Goofy screwing something up for Pete, so it's not always unjustified, but their personalities can clash with each other.  It reflects in the way they run their families.

 

Goofy can discipline Max but Pete obviously runs a tight ship.  It might relate to what you wrote here.  For the most part, his family respects him.  His wife and daughter love him, his son fears him (or at least usually doesn't go against him), he has a job he likes and it pays for that sweet two-story house.  Pete probably isn't as bitter here like in KH because overall, he has what he wants.  Get rid of Goofy and his life would be perfect, though of course, his methods to do so often cement him as a total asshat.  Goof Troop shows Pete as someone who's relatively more well-adjusted, someone more along the lines of his Timeless River incarnation.  It might reflect what Pete can be, and what Pete wants to be.

 

I wonder if this is a tl;dr version of me wanting Max and PJ in KH, but hey, doing so can give Pete what he wants without having to work with Maleficent.

 

Yeah, Goof Troop is a really good example of what Pete would be like if he were to settle down. Sure, he's still a bit of a jerk, but you can tell that he actually really cares for his family. Within the classic Disney shorts, Pete doesn't really have much character, so much as he is just the ultimate bad guy foil to Mickey. Whereas Pete is big, bullying, strong, and intimidating, Mickey is tiny, nice, and resourceful, and usually has to win based on his merits of bravery and cunning.  I think the Kingdom Hearts universe sort of finds the happy medium between these two incarnations of Pete, where he's still that kind of villainous presence, while still having more humanity to him than some of the other villains.

Pete isn't actually a bad guy he's more of a bad good guy. If anything he's just a bully sorta but not a bad guy.

Dude.. That's kinda deep. How can I hate him now?

Oh yeah, 'cause  he keeps summoning heartless on my face.

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