Posted October 20, 201312 yr The "Chamber" is refered a lot by Saix during Days... I know that it has something to do with Ven, but what?
October 20, 201312 yr Popular Post Ven is asleep in the chamber and Xemnas wants to find him .Saix and Axel want to know why bc they suspect Xemnas of hiding something .( he was) Edited October 20, 201312 yr by Flaming Lea
October 20, 201312 yr It's the Chamber of Waking that they were looking for. Axel was sent to Castle Oblivion to look for it. Xemnas had his other "friend" in it. Perhaps Terra within Xemnas wanted to see Ventus.
October 20, 201312 yr Xemnas wanted to find Ven, who is asleep inside the Chamber of Waking, like it was said. But it's still not clear WHAT he wanted to do with Ven... Edited October 20, 201312 yr by AntonioKHT
October 21, 201312 yr Ven is asleep in the chamber and Xemnas wants to find him .Saix and Axel want to know why bc they suspect Xemnas of hiding something .( he was) THY LEA HAS SPOKEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8)
October 21, 201312 yr So i guessing you all are saying that Xemnas is looking for the chamber that is holding the sleeping Ventus... there are two chambers one in Radiant Garden and one In Castle Oblivion. but my true theories are on this...why go so far as to find ventus? Roxas in my eyes is Ventus that has taken over as the real form of the true Roxas. so if roxas looks like ventus the body is hollow,no heart resides within him...why not turn him into a xehanort doppelganger? why does he search for ventus's body? what could he possibly do with ventus? Ven is unable to do anything,he cant move he is broken. my only thought is he would find ven possibly somehow give him a heart and have him fight roxas to enable the great union for the X-blade. but still i am not sure on how solid the theory is mind you. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- but my curiosity is peaked about Saix,what could the chamber hold for Isa's Use? besides even if Axel did find it what could isa possibly benefit from it? But then again Saix is apart of Xehanort so only more time is needed to see isa's truer intentions -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i guess even tho some don't see it This version of Roxas is Ventus just with sora's memories guiding him as a person. because in all rights ventus should have reacted somehow after the events in hollow bastion occurred from sora releasing his heart right?. truly a mystery hopefully revealed on the third.
October 22, 201312 yr So i guessing you all are saying that Xemnas is looking for the chamber that is holding the sleeping Ventus... there are two chambers one in Radiant Garden and one In Castle Oblivion. but my true theories are on this...why go so far as to find ventus? Roxas in my eyes is Ventus that has taken over as the real form of the true Roxas. so if roxas looks like ventus the body is hollow,no heart resides within him...why not turn him into a xehanort doppelganger? why does he search for ventus's body? what could he possibly do with ventus? Ven is unable to do anything,he cant move he is broken. my only thought is he would find ven possibly somehow give him a heart and have him fight roxas to enable the great union for the X-blade. but still i am not sure on how solid the theory is mind you. Xemnas seeks the chamber, because that's where his other friend is (ventus), while his one friend is in the Chamber of Repose (aqua). It's simply not known for what reason Xemnas wants to find Ventus, as was already stated in this thread. I'm guessing we will find out in KHIII one way or another. but my curiosity is peaked about Saix,what could the chamber hold for Isa's Use? besides even if Axel did find it what could isa possibly benefit from it? But then again Saix is apart of Xehanort so only more time is needed to see isa's truer intentions Saix simply wants to find the Chamber of Waking, because first he wants to know about Xemnas' true agenda, and second he wants to use it against him. Whether this is possible or not is not the question. No matter how you look at it Saix's and Axel's plan wasn't thought out too well. I remember from an interview quote (thanks to Flaming Lea who posts them all the time lol), the two weren't really knowing what they were doing, which makes sense and is the easiest explanation for their weird plan, cause sometimes the way they go about things is simply not helpful to further their plans and as we know they plan failed anyways. To simplify this, the Chamber of Waking holds no use for Saix/Isa whatsoever.
October 22, 201312 yr It is the chamber where Aqua put Ventus and Xemnas knows that. Xemnas didn't tell anyone so Saix and Axel want to find it to see what Xemnas is trying to find. They can't find it though because only Aqua has the memories to find it
October 22, 201312 yr So i guessing you all are saying that Xemnas is looking for the chamber that is holding the sleeping Ventus... there are two chambers one in Radiant Garden and one In Castle Oblivion. but my true theories are on this...why go so far as to find ventus? Roxas in my eyes is Ventus that has taken over as the real form of the true Roxas. so if roxas looks like ventus the body is hollow,no heart resides within him...why not turn him into a xehanort doppelganger? why does he search for ventus's body? what could he possibly do with ventus? Ven is unable to do anything,he cant move he is broken. my only thought is he would find ven possibly somehow give him a heart and have him fight roxas to enable the great union for the X-blade. but still i am not sure on how solid the theory is mind you. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- but my curiosity is peaked about Saix,what could the chamber hold for Isa's Use? besides even if Axel did find it what could isa possibly benefit from it? But then again Saix is apart of Xehanort so only more time is needed to see isa's truer intentions -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i guess even tho some don't see it This version of Roxas is Ventus just with sora's memories guiding him as a person. because in all rights ventus should have reacted somehow after the events in hollow bastion occurred from sora releasing his heart right?. truly a mystery hopefully revealed on the third. Roxas isn't Ventus - he only holds Ven's heart but not his memories since his heart was dormant .Also Xehanort cant use Ven for a 1 vs 1 way of forming the xblade bc DDD explained this way was false and a mistake. You need 7 lights and 13 darknesses bc the original Xblade was broken into those 20 pieces- 7 light and 13 dark As for the chamber - Saix and Axel wanted to find out what xemnas was hiding to use it against him somehow but it was never said how. Also Sora never released Ven's heart- it just stayed in his physical body ( Roxas) . Roxas was born with no ones memories and that's why he was like a zombie when he first was born . He only has ven's appearance but not his memories. He later grew his own separate heart based off his own memories and experiences which makes him his own separate person - just like sora told him in DDD
October 22, 201312 yr So i guessing you all are saying that Xemnas is looking for the chamber that is holding the sleeping Ventus... there are two chambers one in Radiant Garden and one In Castle Oblivion. but my true theories are on this...why go so far as to find ventus? Roxas in my eyes is Ventus that has taken over as the real form of the true Roxas. so if roxas looks like ventus the body is hollow,no heart resides within him...why not turn him into a xehanort doppelganger? why does he search for ventus's body? what could he possibly do with ventus? Ven is unable to do anything,he cant move he is broken. my only thought is he would find ven possibly somehow give him a heart and have him fight roxas to enable the great union for the X-blade. but still i am not sure on how solid the theory is mind you. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- but my curiosity is peaked about Saix,what could the chamber hold for Isa's Use? besides even if Axel did find it what could isa possibly benefit from it? But then again Saix is apart of Xehanort so only more time is needed to see isa's truer intentions -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i guess even tho some don't see it This version of Roxas is Ventus just with sora's memories guiding him as a person. because in all rights ventus should have reacted somehow after the events in hollow bastion occurred from sora releasing his heart right?. truly a mystery hopefully revealed on the third. It all depends on who wanted to find Ventus, The most likely scenario is that, while both wanted to find him, Xehanort, the dominant personality, wanted to use Ventus' empty body as another vessel. He also intended to use Roxas, but Roxas became too, self-aware and after going back to Sora was useless. Roxas is not Ven or Sora per-se, yet at the same time is both, he is made of Spras body and soul, and holds Ven's heart but has his own personality. When Sora released Kairi's heart in Hollow Bastion, Ven's heart was still too weak to do anything, so it stayed with Sora's body. That's why Ven's body didn't react. Roxas does not have Sora's memories and only gets glimpses of them in his dreams. He has no idea how he's connected. The only way Sora's memories guided him was by motivating him to find out why he's having dreams of a strange boy in red clothes and how the Keyblade connects them.The only thing Isa and Lea could have possibly gained from finding the Camber was using Ven as leverage. Edited December 15, 201311 yr by Isamu_Kuno
October 22, 201312 yr Xemnas seeks the chamber, because that's where his other friend is (ventus), while his one friend is in the Chamber of Repose (aqua). It's simply not known for what reason Xemnas wants to find Ventus, as was already stated in this thread. I'm guessing we will find out in KHIII one way or another. Saix simply wants to find the Chamber of Waking, because first he wants to know about Xemnas' true agenda, and second he wants to use it against him. Whether this is possible or not is not the question. No matter how you look at it Saix's and Axel's plan wasn't thought out too well. I remember from an interview quote (thanks to Flaming Lea who posts them all the time lol), the two weren't really knowing what they were doing, which makes sense and is the easiest explanation for their weird plan, cause sometimes the way they go about things is simply not helpful to further their plans and as we know they plan failed anyways. To simplify this, the Chamber of Waking holds no use for Saix/Isa whatsoever. You mean Aqua's armor and keyblade That and they wanted to find a use but didn't know how bc they never found what they were looking for . Edited October 22, 201312 yr by Flaming Lea
October 22, 201312 yr You mean Aqua's armor and keyblade That and they wanted to find a use but didn't know how bc they never found what they were looking for . Yeah of course. My mistake, I meant her armor and keyblade
December 12, 201311 yr I was going to say because Ven was in it... Maybe Ven is of great importance to Orgy 13
The "Chamber" is refered a lot by Saix during Days... I know that it has something to do with Ven, but what?