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Lea should dual wield in 3 and others

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i mean he could he has his key and sora could give him bond of the flame(since its his anyway), he used two weapons when he was a nobody. mickey should with star seeker (if yin sid doesn't join the fray) and kingdom key d. riku with oblivion and way to the dawn. kairi  with oathkeeper and destiny's embrace. maybe it could be an ability when you beat the game or for cretin bosses or fights in the game

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  • Danex Darkfire +
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    Sora can't give him the bond of flame. Sora doesn't get new keyblades, he gets new keychains that alter the appearance and stats of the keyblade

  • HarLea Quinn
    HarLea Quinn

    It's bc of keychains which are based off experiences, connections, and memories you experience.

  • HarLea Quinn
    HarLea Quinn

    You can use one keyblade per wielders heart at one time. Roxas and Sora both dual wield bc Ven's heart was inside of them . Lea's chackrams are still one weapon that he uses in pairs but he can also c

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In summary:

Sora and Roxas can duel wield.  Sora can duel wield because he borrows Ven's, who's heart is inside him.  Roxas is his nobody and can duel wield as well because of this.

The appearance of the keyblades are made with keychains, multiple people can have the same key chain so it would look like two people have the same keyblade when in fact they are both using a key chain that makes their own individual keyblade look the same as someone else's who's also using that key chain.  

 

For any of the others to duel wield, someone who can wield a keyblade has to go inside their heart.  

 

And back to the topic at hand.  Duel wielding was meant to be a cool unique feature and to have every one using it would just be overkill.  

 

 

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But anyways can Roxas use a Keyblade without using Sora's? 

 

 

Yes I know silly. I'm just saying I find this subject fascinating for that reason . A kingdom key D keyblade with a star seeker keychain makes the most sense.

 

 

He was agreeing that the kingdom key D could've had the star seeker keychain  during Coded bc of his connections, memories, and experiences with Yen Sid bc it doesnt/might not matter what realm a keyblade came from when it comes to keychains.

 

But if, like you said, it remains aligned with the same realm, not matter the Keychain, the the KKD couldn't have worked with Sora's Keyblade to seal the DtD because that needed to be done with Keyblades from both realms. That's the whole reason Mickey left to find one in the first place.

the star seeker is the keyblade of source its yen sid's and he gave it to mickey the reason that true it that mickey was going to give it back so that a key of source(i going to put KoS for that) and in fm mickey say he was looking for the keyblade from that realm to seal the door so that implies that its a KoS and why would he need a key chain for star seeker if he has the real thing and yen sid has no need for it, so mickey could maybe do it idk, he's f****ing mickey mouse if disney wants it they get it. and i know how the key chain works, but there has to be a KoS to put it on. but, actually they can dual wield but, just the masters and maybe ven and terra and heres my reasoning, the two shoot blaster sora had one keyblade and it split into two guns so maybe it is possibly but only with one key, like roxas's nobodies,but thats only if Nomura does it, so like i said an ability(and this whole thing is my pinion and i was just sharing)

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we should leave duel weilding to sora & roxas if everyone could duel weild it would get old fas and would no longer be original.

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the star seeker is the keyblade of source its yen sid's and he gave it to mickey the reason that true it that mickey was going to give it back so that a key of source(i going to put KoS for that) and in fm mickey say he was looking for the keyblade from that realm to seal the door so that implies that its a KoS and why would he need a key chain for star seeker if he has the real thing and yen sid has no need for it, so mickey could maybe do it idk, he's f****ing mickey moue if disney wants it they get it. and i know how the key chain works, but there has to be a KoS to put it on. but, actually they can dual wield but, just the masters and maybe ven and terra and heres my reasoning, the two shoot blaster sora had one keyblade and it split into two guns so maybe it is possibly but only with one key, simuler to roxas's nobodies,but thats only it Nomura does it

 

 

We are talking about the star seeker in different circumstances . Have you not been reading all the posts? We know Mickey later got KK D and so we wondered what happens to his original keyblade- did he get a keychain to replace it on the KKD since we never see him use both?? . The SS Sora got was from a keyCHAIN.. In OTHER WORDS the memories and connections SORA HAS WITH YEN SID CAN GIVE HIM A STAR SEEKER KEYCHAIN TO PUT ON THE KK.  Also, Yes we know it's a keyblade but we also know its been used in OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES AS A KEYCHAIN . We have yet to see Mickey ever use both at the same time EVER.

 

As for your reasoning on dual wielding thats BS.. Sora transforming a keyblade into two guns does NOT MEAN HES DUAL WIELDING TWO SEPARATE KEYBLADES.Keyblades can transform that doesn't make them two separate ones

 

 

The only people we know for a proven fact that can dual wield is Sora and Roxas .  Terranort prolly could wield more too bc he had three wielders hearts in him. There are theories on Riku possibly harboring another heart so it's possible if thats true he could dual wield too. The conditions Nomura set are one keyblade per wielders heart. Transforming does not COUNT

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the star seeker is the keyblade of source its yen sid's and he gave it to mickey the reason that true it that mickey was going to give it back so that a key of source(i going to put KoS for that) and in fm mickey say he was looking for the keyblade from that realm to seal the door so that implies that its a KoS and why would he need a key chain for star seeker if he has the real thing and yen sid has no need for it, so mickey could maybe do it idk, he's f****ing mickey mouse if disney wants it they get it. and i know how the key chain works, but there has to be a KoS to put it on. but, actually they can dual wield but, just the masters and maybe ven and terra and heres my reasoning, the two shoot blaster sora had one keyblade and it split into two guns so maybe it is possibly but only with one key, like roxas's nobodies,but thats only if Nomura does it, so like i said an ability(and this whole thing is my pinion and i was just sharing)

Sorry, but I don't understand a thing from what You are trying to say. The Starseeker of Micky is most likely just his own Keyblade with just the Starseeker Keychain, or the KKD is the Starseeker with a KKD Keychain. Mickey CAN'T dual wield. He does not have two hearts. And you don't have to be a Keyblade Master to dual wield, that is just bullshit, because then Eraqus, Xehanort, Aqua, Riku, Yen Sid and Mickey should al be able to dual wield, but they can't. Dual wieling is not fun and original if almost everyone can use it. Only Sora and Roxas are able to dual wield. Period.
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We are talking about the star seeker in different circumstances . Have you not been reading all the posts? We know Mickey later got KK D and so we wondered what happens to his original keyblade- did he get a keychain to replace it on the KKD since we never see him use both?? . The SS Sora got was from a keyCHAIN.. In OTHER WORDS the memories and connections SORA HAS WITH YEN SID CAN GIVE HIM A STAR SEEKER KEYCHAIN TO PUT ON THE KK.  Also, Yes we know it's a keyblade but we also know its been used in OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES AS A KEYCHAIN . We have yet to see Mickey ever use both at the same time EVER.

 

As for your reasoning on dual wielding thats BS.. Sora transforming a keyblade into two guns does NOT MEAN HES DUAL WIELDING TWO SEPARATE KEYBLADES.Keyblades can transform that doesn't make them two separate ones

 

 

The only people we know for a proven fact that can dual wield is Sora and Roxas .  Terranort prolly could wield more too bc he had three wielders hearts in him. There are theories on Riku possibly harboring another heart so it's possible if thats true he could dual wield too. The conditions Nomura set are one keyblade per wielders heart. Transforming does not COUNT

 

 

Sorry, but I don't understand a thing from what You are trying to say. The Starseeker of Micky is most likely just his own Keyblade with just the Starseeker Keychain, or the KKD is the Starseeker with a KKD Keychain. Mickey CAN'T dual wield. He does not have two hearts. And you don't have to be a Keyblade Master to dual wield, that is just bullshit, because then Eraqus, Xehanort, Aqua, Riku, Yen Sid and Mickey should al be able to dual wield, but they can't. Dual wieling is not fun and original if almost everyone can use it. Only Sora and Roxas are able to dual wield. Period.

 

ok, so maybe i didn't put it right, or your just not under standing. i said sora had ONE KEYBLADE and when he when into two shoot blaster HE MADE TWO GUNS OUT OF THE SAME KEY, so nomura could MAKE A TRANSFORMATION OF DUAL WELDING in other words YOU COULD HAVE JUST ONE KEY LIKE KK AND WHEN YOU GO INTO IT, IT SPLITS INTO TWO SWORDS, NOT TWO KEYS, ITS THE SAME ONE BUT SPLIT AND WOULD LOOK DIFFERENT LIKE THE NOBODY'S SWORDS and the reason i said master only is bc they are the only one that can transform their keyblades it won't be true dual wielding but still dual wielding nonetheless. and i understand that sora's star seeker is ven's key with a chain on it, but the true star seeker is yen sid's and he gave it to mickey bc he's not a KM anymore.and the kkd is a KoS normally in the series if someone refers to the keyblade they mean the original one not a chain, the x-blade, the kk and the others are prime examples and the key chain are not story wise canon because in cutscenes the are never mentioned and its all was their default key unless something happens like the x-blade, so it would make sense not to brake this on going thing and show only the default key so ss and kk d are their own keys, and i said in theory mickey could dual wield since he has two keys but he can't be cause he dose not have two hearts.

 No one ever said only masters can transform . Terra could and Ven could and they weren't masters . Aqua could before she was a master ( transforming her keyblade into a glider) The difference is Riku and Sora were never formally trained to learn that skill yet .

 

Yes the true Star seeker is Yen Sids. Yes he could let Mickey borrow it like all wielders can borrow temporarily other wielders keyblades.. BUT after he got KK D we never see him use both so it's possible he's using a SS keychain later on with his KKD or  it's also possible he borrowed SS again but i don't see the point in that bc he has the KK D.

 

Keychains have been presented in canon storyline. Example : Sora was given Fenrir in a cutscene. YMX  used a different keychain on MX's keyblade which was shown in battle and in a cutscene xD Mickey even comments on it bc he knows that was MX's keyblade.

 

 

Anyways transforming a keyblade isn't true dual wielding ..True dual wielding with two separate keyblades gives you double the power pretty much whereas transforming and splitting ONE keyblade in half is just a transformation.

ok, so maybe i didn't put it right, or your just not under standing. i said sora had ONE KEYBLADE and when he when into two shoot blaster HE MADE TWO GUNS OUT OF THE SAME KEY, so nomura could MAKE A TRANSFORMATION OF DUAL WELDING in other words YOU COULD HAVE JUST ONE KEY LIKE KK AND WHEN YOU GO INTO IT, IT SPLITS INTO TWO SWORDS, NOT TWO KEYS, ITS THE SAME ONE BUT SPLIT AND WOULD LOOK DIFFERENT LIKE THE NOBODY'S SWORDS and the reason i said master only is bc they are the only one that can transform their keyblades it won't be true dual wielding but still dual wielding nonetheless. and i understand that sora's star seeker is ven's key with a chain on it, but the true star seeker is yen sid's and he gave it to mickey bc he's not a KM anymore.and the kkd is a KoS normally in the series if someone refers to the keyblade they mean the original one not a chain, the x-blade, the kk and the others are prime examples and the key chain are not story wise canon because in cutscenes the are never mentioned and its all was their default key unless something happens like the x-blade, so it would make sense not to brake this on going thing and show only the default key so ss and kk d are their own keys, and i said in theory mickey could dual wield since he has two keys but he can't be cause he dose not have two hearts.

For starters duel wielding is the ability to wield two or more keyblade at the same time as defined by Nomura. This is only possible by drawing key blades from the hearts of multiple hearts in a single vessel. I'm should be noted that the foreign hearts must be the heart of a wielder. Now it is possible to dual wield in the sense of two weapons via transformation however not in the sense that you're trying to portray. Also transforming a keyblade into a sword would be redundant. All keyblades have a base form if they were a map they would be a point of origin 0,0,0,0. Examples of this are Kingdom Key, Way to Dawn, and Kingdom Key D. The base form of Yen Sid's keyblade is Star Seeker. A keychain is a manifestation of power drawing from the memories and experiences of the wielder. Essentially they are extensions of the wielders power. Keychain are indeed cannon as its been shown many times throughout the series remember all gameplay is cannon to the story. Plus Young Xehanort indeed used Master Xehanort's key blade although he used a different keychain to reflect his own experiences and memories. Other are other examples of this including Terra's End of Earth and Sora's Fenrir.On the subject of Yen Sid's keyblade while its true it is possible for a wielder to borrow another's keyblade. However the borrowed keyblade cannot be kept or owned indefinitely only for an amount of time based on the original wielders discretion. While it is possible Mickey still has Star Seeker it is unlikely he still would need it after obtaining Kingdom Key D. This is especially true since the need for multiple keyblade wielders has arisen in light of the impending keyblade war.

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Danex darkfire- so that what keychains are, I never understood the exact definition.  

ok, so maybe i didn't put it right, or your just not under standing. i said sora had ONE KEYBLADE and when he when into two shoot blaster HE MADE TWO GUNS OUT OF THE SAME KEY, so nomura could MAKE A TRANSFORMATION OF DUAL WELDING in other words YOU COULD HAVE JUST ONE KEY LIKE KK AND WHEN YOU GO INTO IT, IT SPLITS INTO TWO SWORDS, NOT TWO KEYS, ITS THE SAME ONE BUT SPLIT AND WOULD LOOK DIFFERENT LIKE THE NOBODY'S SWORDS and the reason i said master only is bc they are the only one that can transform their keyblades it won't be true dual wielding but still dual wielding nonetheless. and i understand that sora's star seeker is ven's key with a chain on it, but the true star seeker is yen sid's and he gave it to mickey bc he's not a KM anymore.and the kkd is a KoS normally in the series if someone refers to the keyblade they mean the original one not a chain, the x-blade, the kk and the others are prime examples and the key chain are not story wise canon because in cutscenes the are never mentioned and its all was their default key unless something happens like the x-blade, so it would make sense not to brake this on going thing and show only the default key so ss and kk d are their own keys, and i said in theory mickey could dual wield since he has two keys but he can't be cause he dose not have two hearts.

... Why are you so pressed on characters who cannot canonically dual wield being able too. Never before, to my knowledge, has anyone refered to a keyblade by its chain kingdom key or otherwise, except the x-blade, but that's a natural phenomenon rather than keyblade of man's heart. Yes keychains, IN A SENSE, are canon. Roxas's dual wielding transformation in 358, and kairi giving sora the oathkeeper charm both disproves and proves this, keychains do not have to be physical, just a really powerful memory could transform the keyblade( seeing as the oathkeeper charm was with sora when Roxas gained the blade). Now with the kingdom key d turning into star seeker, I only have one theory that can support the reasoning behind this. All keyblades start out as KK or KKD as it is the most basic of all keyblades, the exception to the rule is Riku, as far as we know, but after certain amount of usage of the keyblade, it melds to the personality of the user, resulting in their most basic keyblade seen ingame. The only way this theory could be wrong is because sora, Roxas, and xion were never meant to be keyblade wielders so that is why they start of with the most basic form, to show off their limitless potential. But if my theory is true, then in conjunction with the reason why sora "resets" each game due to either memory loss or training, Mickey, due to giving up his keyblade from the realm of light in order to wield one from the darkness, had to "imprint" his personality and memories into the new blade which would explain why he gets star seeker back later, though its only a theory... A game theory (couldn't resist) also, keyblades have been implied to be somewhat sentient so it would make sense to imprint new memories into a new blade.

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