I recently saw the E3 trailer for BBS, and it made me think who the secret boss really is. It can't be Xemnas, because Xehanort hadn't lost his heart for a while after the events of BBS. But remember when he locked the heart (we don't know which one) at the end of BBS? Maybe that person had created a Nobody and a Heartless from THAT heart before Ansem SoD/Xemnas was even created. That's my theory, what do you guys think? ***I think the boss was the Nobody of Terra or MX, but most likely Terra***.

Well the secret boss wears an organization cloak which could represent he is part of organization xiii.And all the members within the organization are nobodies.The secret boss may be a hint to the next game, meaning the boss may be from the future or past because Terra was from 10 years before Kingdom Hearts but he was shown in Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix and Xemnas was in KH2 but he was shown in KH 1 Final Mix meaning that the timeline the secret bosses belong to varies.Xemnas was the leader of organization xiii BUT no one ever said that he was the founder of it.This boss may be the TRUE founder and main bad guy in organization xiii before all the members existed or not existed.We were already shown that Xion was a member of organization xiii probably giving us a hint that the name does not corelate with the amount of members in it to maybe trick us.Also, Ven lost his heart and Vanitas was born.The fact that that person may be Ven's nobody could be likely as well considering the way he holds his weapon.And what is with organization members and dual weapons?

 

The Org. was created by Xehanort and the 6 other scientists.

The boss most likely is from the future or past, but he still could be from present time.

Ven didn't lost his heart, all the darkness in it was extracted from him, making Vanitas, so he wouldn't have a Nobody.

Duel weapons pwn.

the weapons looked awesome XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

are you guys talking about that cloaked figure it shows aqua fighting in one of the scenes on the bbs site?

The secret boss is obviously Chuck Norris. Did you see that roundhouse kick he gave Aqua and how fast her health went down. I'm surprised there were only three copies of him.

ok that is just too funny

That's exactly who we are talking about.

Well the secret boss wears an organization cloak which could represent he is part of organization xiii.And all the members within the organization are nobodies.The secret boss may be a hint to the next game, meaning the boss may be from the future or past because Terra was from 10 years before Kingdom Hearts but he was shown in Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix and Xemnas was in KH2 but he was shown in KH 1 Final Mix meaning that the timeline the secret bosses belong to varies.Xemnas was the leader of organization xiii BUT no one ever said that he was the founder of it.This boss may be the TRUE founder and main bad guy in organization xiii before all the members existed or not existed.We were already shown that Xion was a member of organization xiii probably giving us a hint that the name does not corelate with the amount of members in it to maybe trick us.Also, Ven lost his heart and Vanitas was born.The fact that that person may be Ven's nobody could be likely as well considering the way he holds his weapon.And what is with organization members and dual weapons?

 

Just because the person is wearing the cloak doesn't mean they're part of the Organization; case in point: Riku, Ansem the Wise, Mickey. The timeline for secret bosses do not vary; they stick to the present time. Xemnas was in KH1FM; that was the battle where he took Sora's memories of Kairi to create Xion. It wasn't Terra in KH2FM, but the Lingering Sentiment.

 

Xion wasn't a true Nobody, so technically she didn't count amongst the Organization. Ven didn't lose his heart when Vanitas was born; instead MX simply extracted the dark half of it to create Vanitas. Ven retained the light half, and he doesn't have a Nobody because he has a heart of pure light, which he never lost to the darkness.

 

And dual-wielding is cool.

I'm guessing this character is related to why Xemnas uses Ethereal Blades instead of a keyblade.

Nomura said there was an explanation.

The first person to wear the orginization cloak was MX seen from opening of BBS so it is a possibility that it is someone MX was close too.

That is what I am thinking until release of the game.

 

Well the secret boss wears an organization cloak which could represent he is part of organization xiii.And all the members within the organization are nobodies.The secret boss may be a hint to the next game, meaning the boss may be from the future or past because Terra was from 10 years before Kingdom Hearts but he was shown in Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix and Xemnas was in KH2 but he was shown in KH 1 Final Mix meaning that the timeline the secret bosses belong to varies.Xemnas was the leader of organization xiii BUT no one ever said that he was the founder of it.This boss may be the TRUE founder and main bad guy in organization xiii before all the members existed or not existed.We were already shown that Xion was a member of organization xiii probably giving us a hint that the name does not corelate with the amount of members in it to maybe trick us.Also, Ven lost his heart and Vanitas was born.The fact that that person may be Ven's nobody could be likely as well considering the way he holds his weapon.And what is with organization members and dual weapons?

 

Just because the person is wearing the cloak doesn't mean they're part of the Organization; case in point: Riku, Ansem the Wise, Mickey. The timeline for secret bosses do not vary; they stick to the present time. Xemnas was in KH1FM; that was the battle where he took Sora's memories of Kairi to create Xion. It wasn't Terra in KH2FM, but the Lingering Sentiment.

 

Xion wasn't a true Nobody, so technically she didn't count amongst the Organization. Ven didn't lose his heart when Vanitas was born; instead MX simply extracted the dark half of it to create Vanitas. Ven retained the light half, and he doesn't have a Nobody because he has a heart of pure light, which he never lost to the darkness.

 

And dual-wielding is cool.

 

I Have to agree with reverseal,shes right. it could be the least perosn you expect. heck it could be everyone form KHinsider,and KH13.com

perhaps the secret boss isnt a nobody, just MX's body, cuz from what i understand,

 

 

MX released his heart which entered terra, so his body must have been left behind, being what people have said, his lingering sentiment

 

 

perhaps the secret boss isnt a nobody, just MX's body, cuz from what i understand,

 

 

MX released his heart which entered terra, so his body must have been left behind, being what people have said, his lingering sentiment

 

 

 

He left his soul behind too. Perhaps the two would form to create some new enemy that's also created from a person's body and soul?

As soon as I saw that part, I have been doing some investigation by rewatching the scene over and over, as I come up with ideas to make theories.

 

Now let's go with SoraKing3's idea of a non-Nobody (and sorry, I must use the picture that you had). As you can see, SoraKing is correct about the symbol on his blades:

 

 

You notice that they are not a Nobody symbol, nor any symbol at all that looks similar to this.

 

So here are my ideas:

 

-Not Xehanort (who knows anymore).

-Dealing with another version of Xehanort (oh great, another Xehanort to kill. That's just dandy).

-New character (highly doubtfull, but still good. We could use more new characters)

-New enemy that's part of new creatures (you don't know if this one has a strong will to become humanoid)

 

Now something tells me that he is Xehanort, but something tells me he's not. But in my gut, I think it's not Xehanort, or not truely Xehanort. Secret bosses usually have important meaning with new games....

 

But let's assume he is a Nobody (It actually looks as if it may just be a design, with no real importance). Only logical explainations are:

 

-Future version of Xemnas (although it definitly won't happen, I mean we already got Xemnas as a secret boss in KH: FM)

-First ever Nobody (that's is the first Nobody to be humanoid, or even just the first one Nobody in general. I really don't believe Nomura when he mentioned that there would be no Nobodies in Birth By Sleep or something like that)

-Actual Nobody of Master Xehanort.

 

To those who will probably either troll or act like an idiot about him being the Nobody of Master Xehanort:

 

Remember when Xehanort released his heart? Well I think that Nobodies can be born even when hearts of the fallen are not swallowed by darkness. Kairi and Namine proves this, regardless of Kairi being a Princess of Heart or Namine being a "special" Nobody. I think it just needs a body and a soul, rather than that and having the heart consumed by darkness. Maybe the soul and body was then used to make the Nobody. Makes sense to me. Idk how to explain about having a Heartless, but it could be a special reason, like for Kairi. Besides, MX's heart was already being consumed by darkness as he let it flow through his heart, so there's no surprises there.

 

Either way, the only thing that wraps this up is that Nomura loves to firetruck with our minds....a hell of a lot.

symbol= hollow bastion keyhole in kh1?

haha vanitas has a point it kinda looks like that!

maybe ,aybe not.

do you think it can be relateed with vanitas sentiment?

do you think it can be relateed with vanitas sentiment?

 

Nah. I wouldn't go ahead and make that assumption. They are two completely people and I'm pretty sure that Vanitas' Sentiment won't actually make a role, or at least an important one.

 

do you think it can be relateed with vanitas sentiment?

 

Nah. I wouldn't go ahead and make that assumption. They are two completely people and I'm pretty sure that Vanitas' Sentiment won't actually make a role, or at least an important one.

 

Like the Secret Boss has an important role, no I think he will just appear there, you fight him and he fades away without saying a word.

I'm pretty sure the boss has a role in the story considering the fact that you have to fight it in the Land of Departure (and the LoD was destroyed), so the fight must take place during the current story. You have to fight the Vanitas Sentiment after you complete the story, making it not as important.

I kind of think it could be a completely new enemy...I mean that could set up for future titles when Xehanort's arc is done. Previous games have had bosses that show up in later games

I kind of think it could be a completely new enemy...I mean that could set up for future titles when Xehanort's arc is done. Previous games have had bosses that show up in later games

 

hey maybe it could Answem the Wise?

 

I kind of think it could be a completely new enemy...I mean that could set up for future titles when Xehanort's arc is done. Previous games have had bosses that show up in later games

 

hey maybe it could Answem the Wise?

 

Why would he though?

 

I kind of think it could be a completely new enemy...I mean that could set up for future titles when Xehanort's arc is done. Previous games have had bosses that show up in later games

 

hey maybe it could Answem the Wise?

 

Don't think so. His build is different than that of this mystery boss. And even then, there're the questions of what's he doing there, how did he get there, and what's with the weapons?

I think the why with Ansem the Wise is the most important question. But yeah they do look different...

 

I'm standing by my theory hehe

maybe he;s your brotehr princess? lol or who knwos he could be my pet cat, on stilts, lol

maybe he;s your brotehr princess? lol or who knwos he could be my pet cat, on stilts, lol

 

could be a dinosuar? or a seamonkey, yeah right, cat on stilts, haha

right when he summons his weapons in the trailer at 3:05 u see one of the swords closer

just think that would be a better view