Okay, shot in the dark here... but what if the real reason Marluxia rebelled against Organization 13 and attempted to set Sora off against Xemnas was because he somehow caught wind of Master Xehanort's true design for the organization: to create more Xehanorts. 

 

It was actually my younger brother's theory. We're currently playing through Re:COM on 1.5. He raised some insightful points about the series overall, and we both agreed that there could potentially be more to the Castle Oblivion story than meets the eye, something behind the scenes. Xemnas claims in DDD that, "-most of the original members we had chosen for the Organization were inadequate", but that seems like one whopper of a miscalculation on Xehanort's part to be passed off as a coincidence. I'm only focusing on the Castle Oblivion traitors for now because their "omission" from the Organization stemmed from an internal conflict within the Organization and had nothing to do with Sora, at least not initially. 

 

My point is, I could see many of Xehanort's candidates falling in the "weakness of body" and "weakness of will" categories, simply because Sora is reasonably underestimated, like any other main protagonist of a franchise. It's the alleged "weakness of trust" tier that blatantly conflicts with the cunning and genius that we know to be Xehanort. That is why I'm inclined to believe Marluxia and Larxene were originally as loyal as any of the other candidates, until they perhaps discovered things they shouldn't have. 

 

Any thoughts on this? I won't deny I could be reading too much into this, and I'm by no means condoning Marluxia's heinous acts against Sora, but still... it's interesting to ponder. 

Edited January 11, 201411 yr by Lordrogersmith6485

I doubt it personally, but it's an interesting theory. I find it more likely that Marluxia simply sought control over the Organization and to assert himself as the dominant Nobody. Like Xaldin and Saix, he probably thought that having a heart is a weakness, and the only way to total domination would be to eliminate the competition. Dunno. 

What if Marluxia is actually Sora's mom O:

 

But seriously, that theory sounds interesting, I never thought about it.

I doubt it personally, but it's an interesting theory. I find it more likely that Marluxia simply sought control over the Organization and to assert himself as the dominant Nobody. Like Xaldin and Saix, he probably thought that having a heart is a weakness, and the only way to total domination would be to eliminate the competition. Dunno. 

Oh, I have no doubt he'd have wanted control of the Organization anyway. However, I don't recall him ever saying he didn't want to regain his heart, I think that might have been Larxene. Maybe she just didn't like the idea of slowly morphing into a man

Edited January 11, 201411 yr by Lordrogersmith6485

Oh, I have no doubt he'd have wanted control of the Organization anyway. However, I don't recall him ever saying he didn't want to regain his heart, I think that might have been Larxene. Maybe she just didn't like the idea of slowly morphing into a man

He didn't, that's just speculation on my part given what we know about his character and what he's done.

i think i shall ponder on it It's possible i guess I like your theory but I don't think it would effect the story too much but it fits well

Yes it's true . They discovered things that they shouldn't have . Almost everyone did actually. In the secret scene in KH 2 Final Mix , we see Zexion and Xigbar talking about a "Secret room" and Xemnas going in it for once more . That's why Xehanort says that most of the first Org .XIII members were inadequate . But as far as the "traitors" are concerned , Marluxia and Larxene just wanted to control the Org.XIII because as always , "people" crave for power . 

Okay, shot in the dark here... but what if the real reason Marluxia rebelled against Organization 13 and attempted to set Sora off against Xemnas was because he somehow caught wind of Master Xehanort's true design for the organization: to create more Xehanorts. 

 

It was actually my younger brother's theory. We're currently playing through Re:COM on 1.5. He raised some insightful points about the series overall, and we both agreed that there could potentially be more to the Castle Oblivion story than meets the eye, something behind the scenes. Xemnas claims in DDD that, "-most of the original members we had chosen for the Organization were inadequate", but that seems like one whopper of a miscalculation on Xehanort's part to be passed off as a coincidence. I'm only focusing on the Castle Oblivion traitors for now because their "omission" from the Organization stemmed from an internal conflict within the Organization and had nothing to do with Sora, at least not initially. 

 

My point is, I could see many of Xehanort's candidates falling in the "weakness of body" and "weakness of will" categories, simply because Sora is reasonably underestimated, like any other main protagonist of a franchise. It's the alleged "weakness of trust" tier that blatantly conflicts with the cunning and genius that we know to be Xehanort. That is why I'm inclined to believe Marluxia and Larxene were originally as loyal as any of the other candidates, until they perhaps discovered things they shouldn't have. 

 

Any thoughts on this? I won't deny I could be reading too much into this, and I'm by no means condoning Marluxia's heinous acts against Sora, but still... it's interesting to ponder. 

 

 

I doubt it personally, but it's an interesting theory. I find it more likely that Marluxia simply sought control over the Organization and to assert himself as the dominant Nobody. Like Xaldin and Saix, he probably thought that having a heart is a weakness, and the only way to total domination would be to eliminate the competition. Dunno. 

 

 

i think i shall ponder on it It's possible i guess I like your theory but I don't think it would effect the story too much but it fits well

 

 

Yes it's true . They discovered things that they shouldn't have . Almost everyone did actually. In the secret scene in KH 2 Final Mix , we see Zexion and Xigbar talking about a "Secret room" and Xemnas going in it for once more . That's why Xehanort says that most of the first Org .XIII members were inadequate . But as far as the "traitors" are concerned , Marluxia and Larxene just wanted to control the Org.XIII because as always , "people" crave for power . 

 

this is a version of that theory skip to 15:14 :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30ko-J5b2IQ

this is a version of that theory skip to 15:14 :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30ko-J5b2IQ

The only evidence the guy puts out is when he tells Roxas, "I wish we could take you with us."? That seems kind of weak for a theory. It still makes more sense to me that he said that because he respects the Keyblade's power almost to the point of obsession, per the Secret Reports in 358, and doesn't want Roxas' power to go to waste so that he can use him to further his own evil schemes. But since Roxas has to go back into Sora since he's a Nobody, that wouldn't be possible, at least as far as he knows. 

 

But, hey, KHIII could totally prove me wrong. I welcome the reveal. 

Edited January 11, 201411 yr by Kaweebo

this is a version of that theory skip to 15:14 :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30ko-J5b2IQ

How could Marluxia possibly have known about Xehanort's plan ...? I mean the only plan Xemnas told them was the- usual -unlock -Kingdom Hearts- and -get -some- hearts plan thingy.....

The only evidence the guy puts out is when he tells Roxas, "I wish we could take you with us."? That seems kind of weak for a theory. It still makes more sense to me that he said that because he respects the Keyblade's power almost to the point of obsession, per the Secret Reports in 358, and doesn't want Roxas' power to go to waste so that he can use him to further his own evil schemes. But since Roxas has to go back into Sora since he's a Nobody, that wouldn't be possible, at least as far as he knows. 

 

But, hey, KHIII could totally prove me wrong. I welcome the reveal. 

 

 

How could Marluxia possibly have known about Xehanort's plan ...? I mean the only plan Xemnas told them was the- usual -unlock -Kingdom Hearts- and -get -some- hearts plan thingy.....

 

it's just a theory he had, i thought it was interesting.