Space Cowboy 1,392 Posted June 23, 2010 According to the story, fighting a Nobody is impossible in KH1 due to the fact that they weren't introduced until KH2 (excluding Org. XIII). Logically, of course you should have been able to fight a Nobody in KH1. But when does Kingdom Hearts use complete logic? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reversal 53 Posted June 24, 2010 According to the story, fighting a Nobody is impossible in KH1 due to the fact that they weren't introduced until KH2 (excluding Org. XIII). Logically, of course you should have been able to fight a Nobody in KH1. But when does Kingdom Hearts use complete logic? To elaborate on that, it's moreso that they didn't exist yet. BBS shows that Heartless didn't exist in the Realm of Light until the experiments by the apprentices a year later, and the only way they were able to be there was if they were brought over via darkness like what MX did. So since there were no Heartless in the RoL, there were no Nobodies either. Keep in mind that all of the lesser Nobodies were under the control of the Organization. Also, unlike the Heartless, Nobodies are able to think and act upon it, the lesser Nobodies to an extent. Pitting them against Sora wouldn't prove useful to their plans anyway, so it's not entirely illogical as to why he didn't encounter them until KH2. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LadyGaGa 0 Posted June 27, 2010 :DI have to say one thing and its to "Reversal" all most every thing i have read of yours is some of the most smartest things i have read off this site in awhile lol your information helped out alot im going to go with your idea as to what is going to happen in kingdom hearts 3d. that blue me away great job and thanks again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heartless101 83 Posted June 28, 2010 IDK it seems pretty epic but I must get a 3DS -_- oh well better sell my DS and save up and buy the 3DS Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xblade Aaron 11 Posted July 3, 2010 The best theory I've heard about this is that since it switches between Sora and Riku and in their KH1 forms, it's possible that the two of them are exploring their hearts, searching for those lost memories they need to reconnect, before they actually go on their journey to save everyone from torment. ^----- This is what my opinion is. Although I thought this would be another spin-off, I'm excited at the prospect that this may be the final game before KH3! I think this is the most probable theory, the exploration of hearts and memories. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heartless101 83 Posted July 4, 2010 I want to get this game Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Riku 2,063 Posted July 4, 2010 I'm not spending money on a new system TT I'll just watch it on youtube Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted July 4, 2010 I'm not spending money on a new system TT I'll just watch it on youtube You won't be able to because it's 3D.At least, not until people master ripping 3D, and only if you have 3D glasses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slashedkite 6 Posted July 5, 2010 i dont know but, i think the story of kh3d is somewhat like a flash back... or re-exploring the events way back. remember the reconnect thingy that was stated in kh:bbs secret ending, before they reconnect all things back, they (sora and riku) should go back through their memories. and while they tracing back, they found some missing links from their memories like fighting nobodies in their KH1 costumes and explored new worlds. well, that's my opinion and theory. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heartless101 83 Posted July 5, 2010 I think it might be a flashback like slashedkite said Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reversal 53 Posted July 6, 2010 It wouldn't be considered an entirely new game if it was a flashback : Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DragonMaster 1,166 Posted July 6, 2010 If it is just a freaking flash back I will buy it just so I can burn it for wasting my time. Unless of course it actually has some purpose and some of the game is actually in the present. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Space Cowboy 1,392 Posted July 6, 2010 The game is about Sora finding out how to save his friends that are connected to him. Stated by Nomura in the BBS Ultimania, I can't believe I forgot when he said this. -- In that case, do the characters we see in that scene have a chance of returning? Nomura: Yes. The data that Ansem has hidden within Sora is the secret to that revival. When Ansem had become DiZ, and studied the heart and emotions, the results he found he hid within Sora. There are a lot of people who thought that Coded was about finding those results, but that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DragonMaster 1,166 Posted July 6, 2010 The game is about Sora finding out how to save his friends that are connected to him. Stated by Nomura in the BBS Ultimania' date=' I can't believe I forgot when he said this. -- In that case, do the characters we see in that scene have a chance of returning? Nomura: Yes. The data that Ansem has hidden within Sora is the secret to that revival. When Ansem had become DiZ, and studied the heart and emotions, the results he found he hid within Sora. There are a lot of people who thought that Coded was about finding those results, but that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heartless101 83 Posted July 7, 2010 I think in the next game Sora will find out Diz's data Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DragonMaster 1,166 Posted July 8, 2010 ^ Maybe. I guess we really won't know until more info is released on the game. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted July 13, 2010 It wouldn't be considered an entirely new game if it was a flashback : Sure it would, Chain of Memories was, wasn't it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reversal 53 Posted July 13, 2010 It wouldn't be considered an entirely new game if it was a flashback : Sure it would, Chain of Memories was, wasn't it? Eh, I didn't consider that because Nomura didn't say anything about that being a completely new game. Actually, back then I heard that it wasn't even meant to be canon, but it's been a few years, and interviews from back then are impossible to find. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Space Cowboy 1,392 Posted July 14, 2010 Since when was Chain of Memories a flashback in the first place? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reversal 53 Posted July 14, 2010 Since when was Chain of Memories a flashback in the first place? I guess some people consider it a flashback since it's like a rehash of the first game. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Space Cowboy 1,392 Posted July 14, 2010 O_O :-/ I wouldn't consider that a flashback at all, but oh well. They need to realize plot-wise it's not a flashback. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reversal 53 Posted July 14, 2010 O_O :-/ I wouldn't consider that a flashback at all, but oh well. They need to realize plot-wise it's not a flashback. Exactly, but hey, if they want to think of it as a flashback then they're welcome to do so. Imo, they'll be getting the short end of the stick if they think like that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kairisheartless 0 Posted July 16, 2010 The theories about going into Sora's memory to connect everything and about finding the data that DiZ hid inside Sora both seem the most logical. Yes, it is a completely different story. And what I've thought of for the fact of why Sony and all these other big corporations make new game consoles all the time is because they just care about the money they get when we buy them. They know we're going to buy them because we've gotten hooked on the games that Nomura designed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handsome_the_Wise 20 Posted July 18, 2010 The theories about going into Sora's memory to connect everything and about finding the data that DiZ hid inside Sora both seem the most logical. Yes, it is a completely different story. And what I've thought of for the fact of why Sony and all these other big corporations make new game consoles all the time is because they just care about the money they get when we buy them. They know we're going to buy them because we've gotten hooked on the games that Nomura designed. This quote from Nomura in one of the interviews in the BBS Ultimania makes me think this theory might be right. -- In that case, do the characters we see in that scene have a chance of returning? Nomura : Yes. The data that Ansem has hidden within Sora is the secret to that revival. When Ansem had become DiZ, and studied the heart and emotions, the results he found he hid within Sora. There are a lot of people who thought that Coded was about finding those results, but that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DragonMaster 1,166 Posted July 18, 2010 Hmm, yes it would seem that is the most logical theory for the plot. I do however wonder how exactly we would find the data? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites