Ok, I read somewhere that the Guardian Heartless is Master Xehanort's Heartless (and by another user). It may not be true, but I'm speculating off of it. Say for instance, if it was true. That would mean MX would have a Nobody, in this case, might be the NA secret boss. So that leaves Terra, with his heart and his soul in Xehanort's body, although technically it's his own body, and his thoughts in the Lingering Sentiment. So I think Terra has full control of his body (Xehanort), but since he does not his "sentiments", or I say, his soul, Master Xehanort's remaining bits are possessing him to do the things he accomplished, i.e. the research and the "X" in the names of the members of Org. XIII.

 

Also, I have a theory about Xemnas and Aqua. Aqua must have left something, a thought, or she is telepathically communicating with Terra through her armor, because there is no way Terra or MX would know that Ven is in C.O. asleep without a heart unless Aqua told him.

 

Discuss. Agree? Disagree?

If MX did have a heartless , that doesn't mean he has a nobody. You have to have a strong heart to be a nobody and, let's be honest, the guy was getting pretty old.Also, I (Xemnas) probably did a lot of searching around worlds and a lot of talking to armour, but still didn't get squat. So searching C O must have been a conclusion that it couldn't be anywhere else.

Strong Hearts= Keyblade Wielder

MX= Keyblade Wielder

 

You can't have a weak heart and wield a keyblade. Plus, you can have a weak heart and still have a Nobody. You just need strong heart to move on as a Nobody.

 

 

And, say what you said about Xemnas was right. Say he used the system of exclusion and said C.O. was the only place Ven could be.

 

1. How would he know he was sleep in the first place? Neither Terra or MX knew about Ven losing his heart.

 

2. He wouldn't know what specific room to look for in the C.O. unless someone told him.

I agree

you have some strong points

I never thought of how Xemnas would know Ven was sleeping in C.O.

Maybe he can sense Vens presence or something

Also,do you think Ven's body will be ten years older when they find it?

Probly not,but just a thought(hey,that rhymes lol)

And also,i was thinking,if MX has the power to pull darkness out of peoples hearts,then maybe the Secret Boss is some of his darkness he pulled out himself

Would explain the Etheral Blades

Ven's body will most likely not age. I don't think people without hearts age.

 

And MX wouldn't pull out his own darkness, I'm sure he would keep it. The Ethreal Blades make me think that the secret boss is his Nobody.

Ven's body will most likely not age. I don't think people without hearts age.

 

And MX wouldn't pull out his own darkness, I'm sure he would keep it. The Ethreal Blades make me think that the secret boss is his Nobody.

 

yea probly,but i was thinkin maybe he just pulled some darkness out not all of it

Ven's body will most likely not age. I don't think people without hearts age.

 

And MX wouldn't pull out his own darkness, I'm sure he would keep it. The Ethreal Blades make me think that the secret boss is his Nobody.

 

Why doesnt Aqua age then, cos in BBS secret ending she looked the same and its based in KH present(after KHII).....(yay just reached my 100 post)

Strong Hearts= Keyblade Wielder

MX= Keyblade Wielder

 

You can't have a weak heart and wield a keyblade. Plus, you can have a weak heart and still have a Nobody. You just need strong heart to move on as a Nobody.

 

 

And, say what you said about Xemnas was right. Say he used the system of exclusion and said C.O. was the only place Ven could be.

 

1. How would he know he was sleep in the first place? Neither Terra or MX knew about Ven losing his heart.

 

2. He wouldn't know what specific room to look for in the C.O. unless someone told him.

 

So you're saying that a person with a weak heart will have a Dusk, right?

thats agood question why hasent aqua aged lol!

Nomura has stated himself that people age slowly in the Realm of Darkness. That is the case with Aqua.

 

 

 

 

And yes, people with weak hearts has Dusk Nobodies.

Ven's body will most likely not age. I don't think people without hearts age.

 

And MX wouldn't pull out his own darkness, I'm sure he would keep it. The Ethreal Blades make me think that the secret boss is his Nobody.

 

Yeah, people without hearts don't age, this is shown by the Princesses of Heart.

Your theory is good, and seems logical but, knowing Nomura, the exact opposite is what happened.

I agree it seems like a very likely theory. Because that makes a lot of sense: MX heartless= Guardian MX nobody= possibly the secret English boss to BBS Terra's heartless= Ansem SoD and Terra's nobody= Xemnas so this does make a bunch of sense al though I dont know if its true though that MX's heartless is Guardian but if it is it seems likely that MX's nobody is the English Secret Boss BBS. But I'm not sure if they can have 2 heartless and 2 nobodies in only one body because you have to remember that

Terranort was made BEFORE he totally fell to darkness so they only had 1 body, not 2

@ hatok. That is so true

 

@ Heartless. MX's Nobody possibly was created before Terranort was since he left his body and soul behind, and possessed Terra with just his heart.

@SoraKing3 yes that is true now that I think about it

Ok, I read somewhere that the Guardian Heartless is Master Xehanort's Heartless (and by another user). It may not be true, but I'm speculating off of it. Say for instance, if it was true. That would mean MX would have a Nobody, in this case, might be the NA secret boss. So that leaves Terra, with his heart and his soul in Xehanort's body, although technically it's his own body, and his thoughts in the Lingering Sentiment. So I think Terra has full control of his body (Xehanort), but since he does not his "sentiments", or I say, his soul, Master Xehanort's remaining bits are possessing him to do the things he accomplished, i.e. the research and the "X" in the names of the members of Org. XIII.

 

Also, I have a theory about Xemnas and Aqua. Aqua must have left something, a thought, or she is telepathically communicating with Terra through her armor, because there is no way Terra or MX would know that Ven is in C.O. asleep without a heart unless Aqua told him.

 

Discuss. Agree? Disagree?

 

well about how xemnas new about ven and anything else about him, he had his memories about him, i believe, because i dont know if his memory loss was still in effect with his nobody, also, like you said, xemnas had access to aqua's lingering sentiment, since he must have taken hold of it after taking ansem's identity

 

I agree

you have some strong points

I never thought of how Xemnas would know Ven was sleeping in C.O.

Maybe he can sense Vens presence or something

Also,do you think Ven's body will be ten years older when they find it?

Probly not,but just a thought(hey,that rhymes lol)

And also,i was thinking,if MX has the power to pull darkness out of peoples hearts,then maybe the Secret Boss is some of his darkness he pulled out himself

Would explain the Etheral Blades

 

like some other people said, it is most likely that ven cant age without a heart

Just one thing: Xemnas didn't take Ansem's identity, Xehanort did. But where did Xehanort put the armor before he turned into a Heartless and a Nobody?

everyone knows what i ment, but, yeah, i guess it would be best to actually state the facts, thanks

*Update*

 

More facts that can back up my statement.

 

Some people say, "You can't have a Nobody unless your heart falls into darkness". If you believe that, you are wrong. Sora created two Nobodies without his heart falling into darkness (although Namine' isn't a Nobody, technically). Sora did almost the exact same thing MX did when he released his heart. When Sora released it, a Heartless and a Nobody was produced, so why shouldn't it be the same case with MX? It's essentially the same scenario.

*Update*

 

More facts that can back up my statement.

 

Some people say, "You can't have a Nobody unless your heart falls into darkness". If you believe that, you are wrong. Sora created two Nobodies without his heart falling into darkness (although Namine' isn't a Nobody, technically). Sora did almost the exact same thing MX did when he released his heart. When Sora released it, a Heartless and a Nobody was produced, so why shouldn't it be the same case with MX? It's essentially the same scenario.

 

No, his heart did fall to the darkness. Remember when Rikunort plunged the Heart Unlocker into Maleficent to "unlock people's hearts." We see that once he did so, the darkness within her was released; it was no longer kept within the limitatons of her heart. When Sora did this to himself, it had the same effect. The darkness in his heart was no longer restrained and was able to flow freely. Because of this, the darkness was able to expand and overwhelm the light, leading to its fall to the darkness.

 

Master Xehanort stabbed himself with his own Keyblade, not exactly the same kind as the Heart Unlocker. There are three types of Keyblades: of the Realm of Light (Kingdom Key), of the Realm of Darkness (Light Seeker, or IKK, whatever you choose to call it), and of a person's heart (Heart Unlocker). Most likely, his Keyblade is from the Realm of Darkness, like the Light Seeker. Stabbing himself with it would not have the same effect compared to if he were to do it with the Heart Unlocker.

 

-- In "KHI" when Sora stabs the "Keyblade of people's hearts" into himself to release his heart and Kairi's, Sora's Heartless and Nobody were born. When Master Xehanort and Terra:Xehanort stab themselves with the Keyblade, were his and Terra's Nobodies not created?

 

Nomura: That is not yet clear. However I will say that the fixed sentiment that remained just after Master Xehanort stabbed himself with the Keyblade was not a Heartless.

/shot

 

Ok thanks for clearing that up. So it really isn't his Heartless, but there is a chance a Nobody was created.

Well, technically since a Heartless wasn't created, a Nobody wasn't either, but this leaves the possibility of a new type of enemy, perhaps a close relation to the Nobodies, like how the Unversed are similar to the Heartless.

Either that, or something similar to Namine' was created. Or maybe Namine' is apart of the new groups of enemies since she technically isn't a Nobody.