If you could replace any Disney princess of heart with another Disney princess, which two would you choose?

 

Personally, I would rather have Anna from Frozen become a Princess of Heart over Alice.

Alice for Lilo. None of them are princess, so I think it would work

Edited April 15, 201411 yr by Japayork

Wendy for Alice. She wasnt a princess in her world, but she was the only girl in Neverland

Tiana for Alice 

Ariel should have taken Alice's place.

 

Originally Ariel was planned to be one of the PoH but was replaced with Alice cuz the developers thought it would be too difficult to bring Alice out of the water and take her to Hollow Bastion.

 

While I do see the difficulties in having a mermaid sitting on the stone chapel floor in hollow bastion (and Disney refusing to allow this because she couldn't breath or at least notr for long out of water), I DO think it would have worked.

 

They could have had Ursula luring Ariel to become a human (KH2 Atlantica Plot) and then Riku would have kidnapped Ariel in Human form. I definitely can see Ariel standing in the Chapel.

Even Mermaid Ariel would have worked if you imagine her fishtail disappearing into that crystal in the grand hall. And she would have been sleeping anyway but I guess it would have created problems with her being a party memebr in Atlantica and all.

 

 

My main problem with Alice is that I don't see her having a PURE heart of light (especially in the Movie!) and Ariel has a much more innocent temper than Alice.

Ariel should have taken Alice's place.

 

Originally Ariel was planned to be one of the PoH but was replaced with Alice cuz the developers thought it would be too difficult to bring Alice out of the water and take her to Hollow Bastion.

 

While I do see the difficulties in having a mermaid sitting on the stone chapel floor in hollow bastion (and Disney refusing to allow this because she couldn't breath or at least notr for long out of water), I DO think it would have worked.

 

They could have had Ursula luring Ariel to become a human (KH2 Atlantica Plot) and then Riku would have kidnapped Ariel in Human form. I definitely can see Ariel standing in the Chapel.

Even Mermaid Ariel would have worked if you imagine her fishtail disappearing into that crystal in the grand hall. And she would have been sleeping anyway but I guess it would have created problems with her being a party memebr in Atlantica and all.

 

 

My main problem with Alice is that I don't see her having a PURE heart of light (especially in the Movie!) and Ariel has a much more innocent temper than Alice.

Ariel could breath out of water: She did that in the film. 

And Alice isn't that great of a choice, but ( NOT BEING RUDE ) I assume Pure Heart = virgin, so there you go. 

Ariel could breath out of water: She did that in the film. 

And Alice isn't that great of a choice, but ( NOT BEING RUDE ) I assume Pure Heart = virgin, so there you go. 

 

I think Ariel could not breath out of water for a ong period, that's why it would create problems having her sit in Hollow Bastion for too long.

 

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I seeeeeeeeeeeee !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I never thought of it that way!

 

But to be honest, Snow White, Cinderella, Aurora already got married at the end of BbS.

Do you really think they are still virgins??

 

According to this Theory Ariel is the only princess who has a daughter in the Disney sequel, none of the other princesses do.

 

 

 

And do you think Kairi would lose her status as PoH IF (big IF) she got together with Sora in KHIII??

Maybe there are more than 7 princesses?

Edited April 15, 201411 yr by MarkXIIII

Tiana for kairi

Wendy for Alice

I think Ariel could not breath out of water for a ong period, that's why it would create problems having her sit in Hollow Bastion for too long.

 

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I seeeeeeeeeeeee !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I never thought of it that way!

 

But to be honest, Snow White, Cinderella, Aurora already got married at the end of BbS.

Do you really think they are still virgins??

 

According to this Theory Ariel is the only princess who has a daughter in the Disney sequel, none of the other princesses do.

 

 

 

And do you think Kairi would lose her status as PoH IF (big IF) she got together with Sora in KHIII??

Maybe there are more than 7 princesses?

I'm assuming the sequel is being ignored for Ariel. 

And she could've been put in water easily by magic. 

And I don't know, I just thought of how these random princesses connected, and Alice, and "Pure" is usually a term used for a virgin. 

Just my take on it. 

And I don't know, I just thought of how these random princesses connected, and Alice, and "Pure" is usually a term used for a virgin. 

Just my take on it. 

 

But it is a real good theory! It totally makes sense!

But it is a real good theory! It totally makes sense!

Yeah, kinda: Alice was 7, Ariel was 16, Cinderella was 17, I think, Belle was 19 or 20...

Makes sense: for the time periods they lived in, they would be just for social acceptance. 

And BBS, they were in the sleep chambers since it, so we can easily assume they never got their happy endings with the princes because of Maleficent's scheme. 

Yeah, kinda: Alice was 7, Ariel was 16, Cinderella was 17, I think, Belle was 19 or 20...

Makes sense: for the time periods they lived in, they would be just for social acceptance. 

And BBS, they were in the sleep chambers since it, so we can easily assume they never got their happy endings with the princes because of Maleficent's scheme. 

 

I think their happy endings are shown during the credits (as is Belle's) but I totally agree on the theory of maleficent stealing them soon after and maybe even putting those worlds to sleep (it's her speciality after all)

 

If most worlds and characters slept most of the 10 years from BbS to KH1 it explains why they didn't grow older!

I think their happy endings are shown during the credits (as is Belle's) but I totally agree on the theory of maleficent stealing them soon after and maybe even putting those worlds to sleep (it's her speciality after all)

 

If most worlds and characters slept most of the 10 years from BbS to KH1 it explains why they didn't grow older!

Right.

They all appear the same age as they did in BBS.

Plus, Square wasn't sure what they were doing with KH, so the happy ending scenes could be false.

And Belle was one of the newly captured princesses: you can assume she was caught during KH like Alice and Jasmine were, while Cinderella ans Snow White could've been there five or six years, or longer, before Sora's arrivel at Hollow Bastion. 

Right.

They all appear the same age as they did in BBS.

Plus, Square wasn't sure what they were doing with KH, so the happy ending scenes could be false.

And Belle was one of the newly captured princesses: you can assume she was caught during KH like Alice and Jasmine were, while Cinderella ans Snow White could've been there five or six years, or longer, before Sora's arrivel at Hollow Bastion. 

 

I got the whole thing together now:

 

Assuming they Did get their happy endings in BbS (proven by the credits scenes), Maleficent and other Dark powers pulled those worlds into darkness! BbS Final Mix confirms this. Aqua encounters a fallen Castle of dreams in the realm of Darkness. (and the fairy godmither confirms this at merlin'S place)

 

Dark realms act like a timeless space or sleep and if maleficent caught  Aurora before her world disappeared (she had terra extract her heart and therefore knew it was pure light!) and Cinderella too and they slept in a timeless sleep until Sora rescued them in Hollow Bastion. (Just like Ven! His heartless sleep seems to prevent him from growing older)

Count: 2

 

I guess Snow white was lost in the realm of darkness with her world as Maleficent didn't know who all those  princesses were yet. Snow white wandering in Darkness would explain why she didn't grow older (just like Aqua, she still looks like the age she had in BbS!)

I think I remember Snow White talks about wandering through darkness at some point in KH1 (could be she talks about the dark forest but still). An alternative scene in KH1 proves she was captured recently (If you finish Deep Jungle before Wonderland we see the villains capture Snow instead of Alice!). Another proof her world was lost to darkness: the remnants of Castle of dreams, Dwarf woodlands (and I think even Enchanted dominion) can be found at the end of the world!

Count: 3

 

Assuming that the "known" Princesses of Heart are featured in the stained glass pictures at the Dive to the Heart place, Belle is captured next and Beast escapes the darkness consuming this world. He pursues the capturer and by the time Sora get to Hollow Bastion he's already there.

Count: 4

 

The remaining three peincesses are represented in the pink stained glass window. The Moon for Jasmine, Sun for Alice and the middel one for Kairi.

 

Alice is captures live "on screen" and in the regular chronology of worlds we see her being brought o the villains' lair. (alternative scene is Snow, mentioned above)

Count: 5

 

Next one that is captured is Jasmine which is the last "obvious" princess.

Count : 6

 

Kairi is taken by Hook , I guess and later taken by Riku who carries her to Hollow Bastion all by himself.

Count: 7

 

The last piece of the puzzle is Sora who 'delivers' Kairi's Heart to complete the Union of Princesses.

 

 

 

After the plan failed, All the princesses returned to their world and eventually they'll get their happy ends. Most princes slept anyway and so they can just continue after their weddings.

 

 

 

 

BUT: Major Flaw of the PoH Theory:

 

As Xehanort Extracted Ven's Darkness and therefore Created Vanitas as Pure Dark-hearted.

I don't know if Vanitas' darkness returns to Ven when they fuse or after Vanitas is destroyed.

I also don't know it Sora's heart which completed Ven's fractured heart replaced some of Ven's missin gdarkness...

 

But still, Ven's heart is always represented as a pure orb of light (just like all other princess hearts; Sora's is represented like the standard hearts as that pink heart-shaped crystal; most often seen on the Game over/continue screen)

[However, I think Xehanort's heart in DDD is princess-shaped too but I doubt his consists of pure light ]

 

To finally get to my Theory:

 

Would this make VEN, granted though artificially created, a Prince of Heart????

I got the whole thing together now:

 

Assuming they Did get their happy endings in BbS (proven by the credits scenes), Maleficent and other Dark powers pulled those worlds into darkness! BbS Final Mix confirms this. Aqua encounters a fallen Castle of dreams in the realm of Darkness. (and the fairy godmither confirms this at merlin'S place)

 

Dark realms act like a timeless space or sleep and if maleficent caught  Aurora before her world disappeared (she had terra extract her heart and therefore knew it was pure light!) and Cinderella too and they slept in a timeless sleep until Sora rescued them in Hollow Bastion. (Just like Ven! His heartless sleep seems to prevent him from growing older)

Count: 2

 

I guess Snow white was lost in the realm of darkness with her world as Maleficent didn't know who all those  princesses were yet. Snow white wandering in Darkness would explain why she didn't grow older (just like Aqua, she still looks like the age she had in BbS!)

I think I remember Snow White talks about wandering through darkness at some point in KH1 (could be she talks about the dark forest but still). An alternative scene in KH1 proves she was captured recently (If you finish Deep Jungle before Wonderland we see the villains capture Snow instead of Alice!). Another proof her world was lost to darkness: the remnants of Castle of dreams, Dwarf woodlands (and I think even Enchanted dominion) can be found at the end of the world!

Count: 3

 

Assuming that the "known" Princesses of Heart are featured in the stained glass pictures at the Dive to the Heart place, Belle is captured next and Beast escapes the darkness consuming this world. He pursues the capturer and by the time Sora get to Hollow Bastion he's already there.

Count: 4

 

The remaining three peincesses are represented in the pink stained glass window. The Moon for Jasmine, Sun for Alice and the middel one for Kairi.

 

Alice is captures live "on screen" and in the regular chronology of worlds we see her being brought o the villains' lair. (alternative scene is Snow, mentioned above)

Count: 5

 

Next one that is captured is Jasmine which is the last "obvious" princess.

Count : 6

 

Kairi is taken by Hook , I guess and later taken by Riku who carries her to Hollow Bastion all by himself.

Count: 7

 

The last piece of the puzzle is Sora who 'delivers' Kairi's Heart to complete the Union of Princesses.

 

 

 

After the plan failed, All the princesses returned to their world and eventually they'll get their happy ends. Most princes slept anyway and so they can just continue after their weddings.

 

 

 

 

BUT: Major Flaw of the PoH Theory:

 

As Xehanort Extracted Ven's Darkness and therefore Created Vanitas as Pure Dark-hearted.

I don't know if Vanitas' darkness returns to Ven when they fuse or after Vanitas is destroyed.

I also don't know it Sora's heart which completed Ven's fractured heart replaced some of Ven's missin gdarkness...

 

But still, Ven's heart is always represented as a pure orb of light (just like all other princess hearts; Sora's is represented like the standard hearts as that pink heart-shaped crystal; most often seen on the Game over/continue screen)

[However, I think Xehanort's heart in DDD is princess-shaped too but I doubt his consists of pure light ]

 

To finally get to my Theory:

 

Would this make VEN, granted though artificially created, a Prince of Heart????

Wow...you're good. 

And I didn't know about the alternate scene: is that KH 1 for PS2, or the PS3 hd one?

Ariel could breath out of water: She did that in the film. 

And Alice isn't that great of a choice, but ( NOT BEING RUDE ) I assume Pure Heart = virgin, so there you go. 

*Lols*

You know... Sora and Kairi are nearly 16

Just kidding x D,  but are you fo real bruh

 

That can apply to real life, everyone has the right to their beliefs, but I really don't think that you can apply it to Kingdom Hearts.

 

It only means they have a heart of pure light. They also have a connection to kingdom hearts that's different than the connection keyblade weilders have. Something about them containing the lights of all the worlds...I think.

I think since KH1 came out before Frozen it'd make more sense to choose a Princess who was already in the domain rather than one that just came out that everyone's just fawning over.  "i like this newb more so replace her" isn't a valid reason for replacing someone.  

 

I think if anyone should be in,it should have been Ariel.  She was an actual Princess and as said she was cut because of animating the fish tale.  While I like Alice I always felt it was a little unfair to Ariel that she didn't get a PoH position because she was half fish.

 

I'm assuming the sequel is being ignored for Ariel. 

And she could've been put in water easily by magic. 

And I don't know, I just thought of how these random princesses connected, and Alice, and "Pure" is usually a term used for a virgin. 

Just my take on it. 

 

I don't think in the KH context it meant virgin.  It's just pure light, devoid of darkness.  I doubt they would bring any attention to sex or one's sexual history in a game aimed at kids boasting about friendship.

 

I think it's more akin to those princesses popularity. Snow White was the first one ever made, Cinderella is credited as the leader of the Princess Line, Aurora, Belle and Jasmine are also the "classic" popular ones, Ariel is a lot of people's favourites but couldn't be animated so they just choose Alice and obviously Kairi as an original creation getting more significance to the plot line.  I think it has more to do with the popularity, cause bar Alice (and put Ariel in her place), it's the most popular princesses of the "classic" Disney line.  They probably went with Alice over Wendy cause you went to Wonderland earlier in the game than Neverland.  

Oh gosh...

I don't know who could get replaced.

And yes I know who's in the PoH, I just don't feel like replacing anyone.

I think since KH1 came out before Frozen it'd make more sense to choose a Princess who was already in the domain rather than one that just came out that everyone's just fawning over.  "i like this newb more so replace her" isn't a valid reason for replacing someone.  

 

I think if anyone should be in,it should have been Ariel.  She was an actual Princess and as said she was cut because of animating the fish tale.  While I like Alice I always felt it was a little unfair to Ariel that she didn't get a PoH position because she was half fish.

 

 

I don't think in the KH context it meant virgin.  It's just pure light, devoid of darkness.  I doubt they would bring any attention to sex or one's sexual history in a game aimed at kids boasting about friendship.

 

I think it's more akin to those princesses popularity. Snow White was the first one ever made, Cinderella is credited as the leader of the Princess Line, Aurora, Belle and Jasmine are also the "classic" popular ones, Ariel is a lot of people's favourites but couldn't be animated so they just choose Alice and obviously Kairi as an original creation getting more significance to the plot line.  I think it has more to do with the popularity, cause bar Alice (and put Ariel in her place), it's the most popular princesses of the "classic" Disney line.  They probably went with Alice over Wendy cause you went to Wonderland earlier in the game than Neverland.  

Well, one of the guys at SE said the story isn't aimed at children, but yeah, people of all ages play it so they would not do anything like that lol. 

 

Not to mention this is made by mostly Japanese people and they share different philosophy and such. In Japan, even the most ecchi(Lots of fanservice) anime hardly show or mention sex itself. Never an RPG.

 

I like Alice. With Alice and Kairi you get more variety instead of just standard type princesses(Not that they're bad). Kairi is feminine, but she has been stated to be tomboy and you can see that in her character. Alice and her story can be interpreted in many ways, and has been.

I think since KH1 came out before Frozen it'd make more sense to choose a Princess who was already in the domain rather than one that just came out that everyone's just fawning over.  "i like this newb more so replace her" isn't a valid reason for replacing someone.  

 

I think if anyone should be in,it should have been Ariel.  She was an actual Princess and as said she was cut because of animating the fish tale.  While I like Alice I always felt it was a little unfair to Ariel that she didn't get a PoH position because she was half fish.

 

 

I don't think in the KH context it meant virgin.  It's just pure light, devoid of darkness.  I doubt they would bring any attention to sex or one's sexual history in a game aimed at kids boasting about friendship.

 

I think it's more akin to those princesses popularity. Snow White was the first one ever made, Cinderella is credited as the leader of the Princess Line, Aurora, Belle and Jasmine are also the "classic" popular ones, Ariel is a lot of people's favourites but couldn't be animated so they just choose Alice and obviously Kairi as an original creation getting more significance to the plot line.  I think it has more to do with the popularity, cause bar Alice (and put Ariel in her place), it's the most popular princesses of the "classic" Disney line.  They probably went with Alice over Wendy cause you went to Wonderland earlier in the game than Neverland.  

Well, I just meant that was MY take on it.

My idea 1.ponyo replaceSnow White,2.Kim possible replace Cinderella3.sofia replaceAurora 4.leia replaceBelle5.Rapunzel replace Jasmine 6.Anna replace Alice  7.namnie replaceKairi.

How about a real plot twist?  We find out that Xehanort KILLED BAMBI's MOTHER!  That would make him totally unredeemable.

 

As funny as the last post was, changes 1-4 and change 7 make no sense whatsoever.  Only true Disney movie females (Star Wars is not a true Disney franchise since it was brought, not released by Disney) can be princesses 1-6.  Jasmine has always made the least sense to me in the princesses, in terms of "darkness in the heart".  As much people like her feminist attitude, her resentment about being locked in the palace and being forced to marry surely shows some darkness.

 

Here are the Disney females that are not princesses of heart that I think would qualify: Wendy, Anna, and Rapunzel.  Anna and Rapunzel did not have a chance because their films were released after KH.  Ariel made a deal with the sea-witch, so she could not qualify.  Lilo has some attitude issues with her.  Tiana has resentment towards people who do not have to work their way to get where they are.  That only leaves the Amy Adams character from Enchanted (I cannot remember her name).  Her time in the real world removed some of her innocence.

 

 

As funny as the last post was, changes 1-4 and change 7 make no sense whatsoever.  Only true Disney movie females (Star Wars is not a true Disney franchise since it was brought, not released by Disney)