I found this interesting article just now and it pretty much sums up my thoughts on this

 

 

That’s right. It was announced yesterday that, along with Kingdom Hearts III, Final Fantasy XV will not be making an appearance at this year’s E3. Fans of the franchise and JRPG enthusiasts alike have voiced varying opinions, much of it expressing sentiments of indifference. I have even read arguments stating that it’s a good move for Square Enix at this point.

I wholeheartedly disagree. When you take into account that we’ve been waiting eight years now for this game, a few more months to receive a new trailer or (gasp) a playable demo doesn’t seem that bad (producer Shinji Hashimoto promised they are working hard to reveal something later this year). That doesn’t make it acceptable for Square Enix to deprive us of a showcase at E3, the industry’s biggest event of the entire year.

That, to me, is the point. E3 serves to highlight what consumers want, and while often utilized as a platform to unveil brand new hardware or as-yet-unseen games, it is also used to provide new information about high-profile titles. If Final Fantasy XV can’t be categorized as “high profile,” I don’t know what can. To be clear, I’m not saying Square Enix doesn’t think XV is high profile—I stand with those who opine pretty much the entire franchise hinges on the success of this game—but to refrain from showing it at E3 seems a little extreme.

Many assert it’s okay for Square Enix to keep XV out of its lineup if it means we’ll get a better showing later, o maybe they just don’t have enough to show us yet (the “I’d rather see something polished” argument). I would agree…if it hadn’t been eight freaking years. To me, the fact that we have waited so long means we should see something at E3. Thus far, them delaying showcasing the game for several months hasn’t paid off. While excitement builds, they inevitably continue to disappoint with a short trailer accompanied by minute bits of information. And as for the game not being polished enough to give us something new, I again point to the ridiculous development cycle this game has endured. If things aren’t polished enough yet, I question whether a couple more months will make any difference.

The biggest issue here is faith. Though I’ve come across many who still believe in Square Enix and stand by widely-regarded missteps like the XIII trilogy or some of the Kingdom Hearts spinoffs, the company indubitably has lost its stride. Many longtime Final Fantasy fans are shrugging their shoulders at XV by this point. That’s a big problem to have with your passionate fanbase, perhaps even worse than outrage over the game’s absence. It shows a lack of faith in consumers that Square Enix can deliver after so long. I’ve heard many fans say they aren’t even excited for this game anymore. That is the most devastating thing a fan of your products can say.

Some consumers are expressing as much disappointment that Kingdom Hearts III will not be shown, but is that really as bad? Kingdom Hearts III was announced fairly recently, so it’s not terribly surprising that Square Enix has nothing to show. In this instance, I can accept that nothing is polished enough to showcase, and it’s forgivable that they don’t have enough to give us to justify showcasing it. XV, on the other hand, loses more and more steam each time Square Enix passes up an opportunity to highlight it. By passing it up, they’re missing out on some desperately-needed hype. Even if they have a playable demo that doesn’t utilize the final system, giving fans a taste could do a tremendous amount for the title. It would also give Square a chance to listen to feedback and tweak mechanics that didn’t work for the demo.

Most disappointing, however, is that no appearance means, yet again, no release date announcement. By this point, giving the game a solid release date would be the most promising thing Square Enix could do, even if the game doesn’t come out for another two years (that’s where I’m putting my money). Square Enix may have learned their lesson not to rush production after Final Fantasy XIII, but after eight years they should be far enough along in development to set a release date without having to rush.

All in all, this entire game has been plagued with mistakes and faltering. Contrary to popular opinion, I believe leaving the game out of E3 is just another to add to that very long list. Hopefully it’ll pay off at another game show later this year, but at this point I’m not holding my breath.

Source:http://leviathyn.com/opinion/2014/06/08/final-fantasy-xvs-absence-e3-2014-good-thing/

 

 

I can totally understand why they can't show KH3 this year as it was just announced last year and I doubt they'll have something ready that quickly

 

Final Fantasy XV on the other hand doesn't have the same luxury....you can't tell me that after EIGHT F****ING YEARS of development that they don't have something polished to show or at the very least and early build demo.....eight years is waaaay more than enough time to have something to show for us.

 

And for those who say"You should be grateful that they're making the game"....give me a freakin break

 

The moment when I should be grateful is when the game turns out to be good...I won't accept the Capcom-esque bullshit development of which they say "oh you should be thankful we gave you this shit you ungrateful pricks" again.

 

I won't be grateful when they're just teasing us like fishes with the teasing baits of

 

 

"Please wait a little longer"

 

"Development is going well,please wait until we're able to share information"

 

FOR F***'S SAKE HOW MUCH LONGER CAN WE WAIT

 

 

THIS GAME WAS ANNOUNCED WHEN I WAS 16 YEARS OLD AT THE TAIL END OF MIDDLE SCHOOL FOR ME

 

NOW I'M ALMOST 24,JUST GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE AND LOOKING FOR A JOB......

 

An entire generation....an entire freakin generation of consoles (Ps3,Xbox 360) was nothing but Final Fantasy XIII games for the mainline Final Fantasy series,during the Ps2 era we had X,XI and XII,all of those three feels different so that if you didn;t like the previous FF universe you can go to the next,same thing applies for the Ps1 and SNES eras for the series.Here,the last generation was just XIII,XIII,XIII and more XIII.....sure we got XIV but the first version of it back in 2010 was so unbelievably broken that we didn't get the actual good version of it(which is a Realm Reborn) until the tail end of 2013 which is right at the end of the previous console generation.For the entire past gen,all we got for the mainline Final Fantasy titles were XIII.....from the 2006's announcement up to 2014 it was just XIII

 

 

A lot of fans are putting so much hope on XV,and for Square to just denies us from a showing in the world's biggest gaming event is unacceptable

 

Shinji Hashimoto promised us last year that the period of silence and hiding things from the fanbase were over and that they'll share information with us at least more than what they used to do......That was a total big fat lie

 

almost a whole decade has passed and we still know jackshit about anything in the game aside from 3 trailers....all of which have a long time gap between each one of them,and a couple of screenshots......and Square expects us to care about XVVersus XIII all this time

 

 

If they're not having enough confidence for their game to show it to us or tell us something about it....why should we have faith in the game then?

 

Give us a reason to believe in the game's quality,otherwise the hype will slowly but surely goes down and in the end we won't care

Edited June 9, 201411 yr by Annoying D Waluigi

As much as some people hated them, the XIII sequels served the purpose of giving us games to play, and each were completely different. Hate how linear XIII was? These sequels are definitely not linear. For all the hate they've received, the Kitase-Toriyama team delivered these three games and X/X-2 HD Remaster during one generation and we'll probably be able to throw in XII HD Remaster soon as well while the Kingdom Hearts team has spent eight years and can't show us anything let alone give anything. And where on earth is Ito?

As much as some people hated them, the XIII sequels served the purpose of giving us games to play, and each were completely different. Hate how linear XIII was? These sequels are definitely not linear. For all the hate they've received, the Kitase-Toriyama team delivered these three games and X/X-2 HD Remaster during one generation and we'll probably be able to throw in XII HD Remaster soon as well while the Kingdom Hearts team has spent eight years and can't show us anything let alone give anything. And where on earth is Ito?

I didn't talk about XIII's quality,what I meant is,for the past generation we had nothing but XIII in terms of mainline console Final Fantasy games heck we didn't even get the definitive version of XIV until the end of 2013

 

Every past generation we got three Final Fantasy games  that are different from each other and was one of the strong points of the series that if you didn't like a game's story or universe you can try the next one,in the SNES era we had 4,5 and 6,in the PS1 era we had 7,8 and 9,in the Ps2 era,we had 10,11 and 12.the Ps3,Xbox 360 era however had nothing but XIII games

 

XVVersus XIII should've never had this ridiculously long development hell and the fact that during those 8 years we still barely know anything about the game makes things even worse

 

XV should've been in this year's E3

 

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Yeah,Where the hell is Ito,the dude should at least have something cooked for us by now.....anything even a spin-off

I didn't talk about XIII's quality,what I meant is,for the past generation we had nothing but XIII in terms of mainline console Final Fantasy games heck we didn't even get the definitive version of XIV until the end of 2013

 

Every past generation we got three Final Fantasy games  that are different from each other and was one of the strong points of the series that if you didn't like a game's story or universe you can try the next one,in the SNES era we had 4,5 and 6,in the PS1 era we had 7,8 and 9,in the Ps2 era,we had 10,11 and 12.the Ps3,Xbox 360 era however had nothing but XIII games

 

XVVersus XIII should've never had this ridiculously long development hell and the fact that during those 8 years we still barely know anything about the game makes things even worse

 

XV should've been in this year's E3

 

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Yeah,Where the hell is Ito,the dude should at least have something cooked for us by now.....anything even a spin-off

 

That's my point, the Kitase-Toriyama team put out three games, that were different, same number but different along with a couple of HD remasters. If the Kingdom Hearts team released XV in 2012 or 2013 we would have had the three numbers. And sure, that's just before the PS4 launched, but Ito's IX and XII both did the exact same, release just before PS2 and PS3 respectively. 

 

Ito hasn't released anything since 2007...

That's my point, the Kitase-Toriyama team put out three games, that were different, same number but different along with a couple of HD remasters. If the Kingdom Hearts team released XV in 2012 or 2013 we would have had the three numbers. And sure, that's just before the PS4 launched, but Ito's IX and XII both did the exact same, release just before PS2 and PS3 respectively. 

 

Ito hasn't released anything since 2007...

I don't think we can be pointing fingers at Ito and his team for anything. Square have already said he's hard at work on something maybe they just don't want to make the same mistake they did with XV and announce it too early? There is also the possibility that Ito was working on a title for PS3/360 but have had to shift focus onto the next generation of consoles like XV.

 

If Square Enix were more in touch with their fans instead of this "Please Understand" nonsense then we'd know a lot more about their upcoming games. Their only redemption is the XIV team, they are constantly in touch with fans and release a lot of Director/Producer letters to stay in contact. Though it's different for an MMO as the world is always on going so they have to keep updating people.

Yet, at soon as we get anything new, all those disapproving fans will jump back on the hype train until next year. 

 

And there's the re branding. It's more than just a simple name change. Versus XIII was built for the PS3, hardware that is different from the PS4 so they probably had to reformat everything for XV to work on that console. And, while it wasn't localized, Type-0 was developed and released, even though it's a portable game.

 

Regardless, there's nothing we can do about it so what's the point of getting upset?

In my opinion, hype for a game is a bad thing because, while it may bring attention to it, you will inevitably be disappointed when the game doesn't match up to your imagination rather than being pleasantly surprised when you finally get your hands on it.

Edited June 9, 201411 yr by Isamu_Kuno

Yet, at soon as we get anything new, all those disapproving fans will jump back on the hype train until next year. 

 

And there's the re branding. It's more than just a simple name change. Versus XIII was built for the PS3, hardware that is different from the PS4 so they probably had to reformat everything for XV to work on that console. And, while it wasn't localized, Type-0 was developed and released, even though it's a portable game.

 

Regardless, there's nothing we can do about it so what's the point of getting upset?

In my opinion, hype for a game is a bad thing because, while it may bring attention to it, you will inevitably be disappointed when the game doesn't match up to your imagination rather than being pleasantly surprised when you finally get your hands on it.

So basically it's always the fans's fault you say not Square's.....that's what I got from this post

 

8 years of development,you can't blame people when they have high expectations for the game after such a long development period

 

XV is only six years away from reaching Duke Nukem's forever's development cycle and that's not a good thing

 

We have the right to be upset when they don't deliver quality products or when they get so secretive.I mean for the love of God look at other good examples of information sharing like Sakurai.Sure development of a Smash Bros game takes too long,but during the development of Brawl and Smash 4 he kept on updating us constantly with new information.Look at how Atlus release details about their games heck they had a Persona FAN EVENT in which they talk to the fanbase and reveal the latest news about the upcoming SMT and Persona games.Look at how Namco is sharing details about the Tales series....Tales of Zestiria had it's OWN FREAKIN RADIO PODCAST in which the development team reveal more about the game

 

If Square want us to wait more and keep caring about their stuck-in-limbo game they gotta give us some information instead of "Please wait a little longer"

Edited June 9, 201411 yr by Annoying D Waluigi

I agree and they sad they would give us information every few months and then they go back to there old ways of not releasing information at all!

 

I mean come on S.E. just give us monthly updates that is all we asked.

Edited June 9, 201411 yr by Kodakliv

So basically it's always the fans's fault you say not Square's.....that's what I got from this post

 

8 years of development,you can't blame people when they have high expectations for the game after such a long development period

 

XV is only six years away from reaching Duke Nukem's forever's development cycle and that's not a good thing

 

We have the right to be upset when they don't deliver quality products or when they get so secretive.I mean for the love of God look at other good examples of information sharing like Sakurai.Sure development of a Smash Bros game takes too long,but during the development of Brawl and Smash 4 he kept on updating us constantly with new information.Look at how Atlus release details about their games heck they had a Persona FAN EVENT in which they talk to the fanbase and reveal the latest news about the upcoming SMT and Persona games.Look at how Namco is sharing details about the Tales series....Tales of Zestiria had it's OWN FREAKIN RADIO PODCAST in which the development team reveal more about the game

 

If Square want us to wait more and keep caring about their stuck-in-limbo game they gotta give us some information instead of "Please wait a little longer"

Please don't compare Final Fantasy XV to Duke Nukem Forever, a game that got thrown around so many different studios before eventually being rushed out into a mess. This is not the same situation.

 

XV just was never Square Enix's main priority until they renamed it.... for whatever reason. Ever since XV was properly revealed last year all I've seen is people whine about how it's "not a true Final Fantasy game" or "so it's Devil May Cry now with the FF logo" or "ermahgurd give us back turn based combat". The Final Fantasy fanbase are probably up their with the most annoying fans in gaming, they cry about no VII remake, they cry about too much Lightning (though I'll give them that one), they cry about the lack of Versus XIII info then cry some more when it gets re-branded as a numbered FF game and most importantly all they do is bitch at Square Enix for not making a good Final Fantasy since VII (which is completely untrue). Now I want less of this please understand nonsense as much as the next person but even if Square Enix revealed more information the fanbase is still going to bitch because that's what they do. They'll say they've lost enthusiasm for the game but that doesn't mean they won't still buy the damn thing when it comes out.

 

Again, I'm disappointed that XV isn't at E3 this year but we can't do anything about it. They'll release more information later in the year and we just have to deal with it until then. Of course I think they should have at least revealed a small trailer just to keep us quiet but this is Square Enix so that was never going to happen, hopefully they make up for it with a good E3 regardless. Square is more than just Final Fantasy XV after all.

Edited June 9, 201411 yr by KHSoraKeyBlade

Please don't compare Final Fantasy XV to Duke Nukem Forever, a game that got thrown around so many different studios before eventually being rushed out into a mess. This is not the same situation.

 

XV just was never Square Enix's main priority until they renamed it.... for whatever reason. Ever since XV was properly revealed last year all I've seen is people whine about how it's "not a true Final Fantasy game" or "so it's Devil May Cry now with the FF logo" or "ermahgurd give us back turn based combat". The Final Fantasy fanbase are probably up their with the most annoying fans in gaming, they cry about no VII remake, they cry about too much Lightning (though I'll give them that one), they cry about the lack of Versus XIII info then cry some more when it gets re-branded as a numbered FF game and most importantly all they do is bitch at Square Enix for not making a good Final Fantasy since VII (which is completely untrue). Now I want less of this please understand nonsense as much as the next person but even if Square Enix revealed more information the fanbase is still going to bitch because that's what they do. They'll say they've lost enthusiasm for the game but that doesn't mean they won't still buy the damn thing when it comes out.

 

Again, I'm disappointed that XV isn't at E3 this year but we can't do anything about it. They'll release more information later in the year and we just have to deal with it until then. Of course I think they should have at least revealed a small trailer just to keep us quiet but this is Square Enix so that was never going to happen, hopefully they make up for it with a good E3 regardless. Square is more than just Final Fantasy XV after all.

Please don't compare me to the Final Fantasy fanbase I feel offended when someone consider me as assholish as them.

 

My problem with Square and XV is different from what those assholes say.I know Square is more than XV but they didn't deliver as much quality with those other games recently with the exception of very very few games.

 

the XIII trilogy was so dissapointing with the exception of XIII-2,Type-0 was never localized at all,too much focus on iOS stuff with low quality mobile games and we got Bravely Default almost a year and a half after Japan got both the game and it's sequel

 

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How many times do we have to deal with it?What guarantees they won't do that next year and the year after?They did it so many times already it's not even funny anymore

 

Sure there are more things than XV but XV IS THEIR NEXT MAIN INSTALLMENT IN THE FRANCHISE AND THEY PUT SO MUCH MONEY ON THAT GAME THAT IF IT FAILED IT'LL DAMAGE THEM BEYOND REPAIR

Edited June 9, 201411 yr by Annoying D Waluigi

So basically it's always the fans's fault you say not Square's.....that's what I got from this post

 

8 years of development,you can't blame people when they have high expectations for the game after such a long development period

 

XV is only six years away from reaching Duke Nukem's forever's development cycle and that's not a good thing

 

We have the right to be upset when they don't deliver quality products or when they get so secretive.I mean for the love of God look at other good examples of information sharing like Sakurai.Sure development of a Smash Bros game takes too long,but during the development of Brawl and Smash 4 he kept on updating us constantly with new information.Look at how Atlus release details about their games heck they had a Persona FAN EVENT in which they talk to the fanbase and reveal the latest news about the upcoming SMT and Persona games.Look at how Namco is sharing details about the Tales series....Tales of Zestiria had it's OWN FREAKIN RADIO PODCAST in which the development team reveal more about the game

 

If Square want us to wait more and keep caring about their stuck-in-limbo game they gotta give us some information instead of "Please wait a little longer"

My point is people are getting themselves worked up over nothing. It's not like there aren't plenty of other games from other companies to play in the meantime. i just don't see the point in obsessing over any games development cycle, that's all.

My point is people are getting themselves worked up over nothing. It's not like there aren't plenty of other games from other companies to play in the meantime. i just don't see the point in obsessing over any games development cycle, that's all.

I'll copy my previous post

 

I know Square is more than XV but they didn't deliver as much quality with those other games recently with the exception of very very few games.

 

the XIII trilogy was so dissapointing with the exception of XIII-2,Type-0 was never localized at all,too much focus on iOS stuff with low quality mobile games and we got Bravely Default almost a year and a half after Japan got both the game and it's sequel

 

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How many times do we have to deal with it?What guarantees they won't do that next year and the year after?They did it so many times already it's not even funny anymore

 

Sure there are more things than XV but XV IS THEIR NEXT MAIN INSTALLMENT IN THE FRANCHISE AND THEY PUT SO MUCH MONEY ON THAT GAME THAT IF IT FAILED IT'LL DAMAGE THEM BEYOND REPAIR

Please don't compare me to the Final Fantasy fanbase I feel offended when someone consider me as assholish as them.

 

My problem with Square and XV is different from what those assholes say.I know Square is more than XV but they didn't deliver as much quality with those other games recently with the exception of very very few games.

 

the XIII trilogy was so dissapointing with the exception of XIII-2,Type-0 was never localized at all,too much focus on iOS stuff with low quality mobile games and we got Bravely Default almost a year and a half after Japan got both the game and it's sequel

 

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How many times do we have to deal with it?What guarantees they won't do that next year and the year after?They did it so many times already it's not even funny anymore

 

Sure there are more things than XV but XV IS THEIR NEXT MAIN INSTALLMENT IN THE FRANCHISE AND THEY PUT SO MUCH MONEY ON THAT GAME THAT IF IT FAILED IT'LL DAMAGE THEM BEYOND REPAIR

I wasn't trying to compare you to the annoying part of the Final Fantasy fanbase.

 

They do focus too much on iOS stuff I completely agree with you on that part and as for Type-0 there is still a small chance that it might get remastered for the Vita or PS3. Small chance but still something because the director of the game is aware of interest from the west. As for Bravely Default you are wrong, Japan never got a sequel to the game before everyone else even got the game. They got Bravely Default: Flying Fairy and Bravely Default: For the Sequel, the latter is an updated version of Flying Fairy (think like a Final Mix of sorts) and that is the version we got. It might be called just Bravely Default but people in Europe & the US got the updated version just with For the Sequel dropped from the title. Bravely Second is currently in development which is the sequel.

 

Any ways back to XV, I'm not saying it's acceptable to have Square Enix be toying with its fanbase and you are right XV is their next main instalment of their biggest franchise but we got XIV last year and it was great. XV will be more than likely out next year (if it isn't then I'll swear at SE and stuff) so in the meantime we have other stuff to be playing from both Square Enix themselves and from other companies. No need to get so worked up over something as little as XV missing E3 2014.

I'll copy my previous post

 

I know Square is more than XV but they didn't deliver as much quality with those other games recently with the exception of very very few games.

 

the XIII trilogy was so dissapointing with the exception of XIII-2,Type-0 was never localized at all,too much focus on iOS stuff with low quality mobile games and we got Bravely Default almost a year and a half after Japan got both the game and it's sequel

 

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How many times do we have to deal with it?What guarantees they won't do that next year and the year after?They did it so many times already it's not even funny anymore

 

Sure there are more things than XV but XV IS THEIR NEXT MAIN INSTALLMENT IN THE FRANCHISE AND THEY PUT SO MUCH MONEY ON THAT GAME THAT IF IT FAILED IT'LL DAMAGE THEM BEYOND REPAIR

We don't have a guarantee. We've never had a guarantee the a game will appear at an event to begin with. And I'm not talking about just about Square, there are plenty of other gaming companies creating quality products to keep us busy.

We don't have a guarantee. We've never had a guarantee the a game will appear at an event to begin with. And I'm not talking about just about Square, there are plenty of other gaming companies creating quality products to keep us busy.

Dude you're talking to me as if I only play Square Enix games in my life(even though I have a Waluigi sig and icon).

 

I'm already looking forward to other companies like Nintendo,Atlus,Namco.....etc and I play a lot of RPGs that isn't from Square 

Dude you're talking to me as if I only play Square Enix games in my life(even though I have a Waluigi sig and icon).

 

I'm already looking forward to other companies like Nintendo,Atlus,Namco.....etc and I play a lot of RPGs that isn't from Square 

Okay. I'm just saying I don't see the point in getting so upset about a single game no matter how long it's been in development. I'm looking forward to it to, I follow the news constantly, but I don't really get upset when we don't hear anything for a while. 

Edited June 9, 201411 yr by Isamu_Kuno

Okay. I'm just saying I don't see the point in getting so upset about a single game no matter how long it's been in development. I'm looking forward to it to, I follow the news constantly, but I don't really get upset when we don't hear anything for a while. 

Well how about if the game delayed until 2018....I think you'll be fine with that I assume.....10 years of waiting is just a little thing as all of us in Square's eyes are immortals and never age.Bah why I bother I should never give a shit about this game

Well how about if the game delayed until 2018....I think you'll be fine with that I assume.....10 years of waiting is just a little thing as all of us in Square's eyes are immortals and never age.Bah why I bother I should never give a shit about this game

Actually, yes. I'll with however long it takes and just focus on my other games in the meantime.

 

Then again, I don't even worry when a tornado is coming through my area. Why? Because there's nothing I can do about it.

I live by the philosophy that if there's nothing you can do, there's no point in worrying or getting upset, and if there is something you can do, your time is better spent doing it.

Edited June 9, 201411 yr by Isamu_Kuno