Okay,the X-2.5 Audio drama is pissing me off even more now(HEAVY SPOILERS)

[Dio Brando 5,810]

I've just finished Final Fantasy X,I'll write a review soon but overall it's a very good game.We just brought back the eternal calm and Sin wil stay dead forever and there is no way he can come back and Spira will be in an eternal peac.......oooooh wait

 

 

 

You can't just keep one thing good without tarnishing it eh Square Enix?

 

This audio drama makes absolutely no sense for a couple of reasons but my main reason is one and only one:

 

 

HOW AND WHY THE FLYING F*** SIN BACK?HOW?It's called the ETERNAL CALM for a reason,we didn't sacrifice someone to become the final aeon and become sin,we defeated and killed Yu Yevon who was the one that kept resurrecting Sin over and over and we broke the cycle that Yu Yevon created....So HOW THE F*** IS HE BACK WITHOUT YU YEVON?Yu Yevon was the one who created Sin and without it Sin cannot be created as he was the only one being able to summon it

 

 

Literally this invalidate Tidus's and Yuna's entire journey,all the sacrifices that Auron and Jecht made,all the aeons that sacrificed themselves to bring the ETERNAL CALM...the entire purpose of a summoner's pilgrimage....all of that now means jackshit because of this audio drama 

 

As if X-2's story didn't shit on the original enough

 

And don't tell me they won't make X-3,they won't include a random audio drama just for shits and giggles.Sure they said there are no immediate plans but that's what they said before when XIII-2 was released when they said there are no plans for XIII-3 but they made a third XIII game anyway with LRFFXIII

 

 

When they say no immediate plans it most likely means "we wanna see the sales",and since the HD collection's sales are higher than Lightning Returns...I assure you that a third X game is gonna be announced next year....in TGS or in any random event....it's going to happen people.

 

They might not name it X-3 but they can give it any other fancy name like Final Fantasy X:The Return of Sin or Tidus Returns:Final Fantasy X or Final Fantasy X:Sin and Atonement ......etc

 

 

Eternal Calm my ass....it lasted 2 years only

[Isaix 924]

Yeah,its really dumb to bring back Sin,it ruins the story completely (kinda like how midichlorian ruined the force in Star Wars) and that destroys everything I liked about Yuna.That's why I decided to consider FFX as its stand-alone game and whatever comes after it is not canon in my book,that way if I play X-2 someday the story won't annoy me as much.

[Sora96 17,256]

I'm not a big fan of Nojima's audio drama and novel either, but I do say they have to do another game or movie for X now.

 

Just wondering, what would you rather Kitase & Toriyama do if they don't do this? VII remake? VII-2? XVI? XVII?

[Dio Brando 5,810]

I'm not a big fan of Nojima's audio drama and novel either, but I do say they have to do another game or movie for X now.

 

Just wondering, what would you rather Kitase & Toriyama do if they don't do this? VII remake? VII-2? XVI? XVII?

ANYTHING,better yet a new game or whatever

 

Like a prequel to X that tells the story of Jecht,Auron and Braska's journey to defeat Sin and how Auron got killed by Yunalesca...that's what they should do

 

BUT SIN COMING BACK?Bullf***ingshit

 

I honestly don't want them to make X-3 but I know it's going to happen no matter what,they didn't just publish a novella(of which Tidus kicks a bomb and blows himself btw) in Japan and made a 30 minutes audio drama for nothing.

 

XIII also had an audio drama leading to XIII-2 and XIII-2 had a DLC leading to LRFFXIII which is basically XIII-3 so the same is happening here

 

Square Enix needs to STOP this and leave things as they are

 

the story of X was fine as it is why add all this nonsense to it?

[Sora96 17,256]

ANYTHING,better yet a new game or whatever

 

Like a prequel to X that tells the story of Jecht,Auron and Braska's journey to defeat Sin and how Auron got killed by Yunalesca...that's what they should do

 

BUT SIN COMING BACK?Bullf***ingshit

 

I honestly don't want them to make X-3 but I know it's going to happen no matter what,they didn't just publish a novella(of which Tidus kicks a bomb and blows himself btw) in Japan and made a 30 minutes audio drama for nothing.

 

XIII also had an audio drama leading to XIII-2 and XIII-2 had a DLC leading to LRFFXIII which is basically XIII-3 so the same is happening here

 

Square Enix needs to STOP this and leave things as they are

 

the story of X was fine as it is why add all this nonsense to it?

 

XIII didn't have an audio drama, it had a novella which was included with XIII-2. Lightning's DLC was needed after XIII-2's ending.

[Dio Brando 5,810]

XIII didn't have an audio drama, it had a novella which was included with XIII-2. Lightning's DLC was needed after XIII-2's ending.

It had an audio drama and you can find it on youtube....it ends with Lightning falling into Valhalla

 

And I didn't say any bad thing about the DLC I just said how it leads to LRFFXIII which is basically XIII-3

 

I was more focusing on X but you shifted to XIII for some reason....I just used it as an example that they're making X-3

[Sorarocks93 678]

I'm actually glad they did this. Yuna doesn't seem to be looking like a slut anymore. 

 

Also I will be glad if it's going to be a sequel. It will be nice if it goes back to its roots and it will be even nicer if it doesn't mention anything that happened in X-2. 

 

I'll just be happy if it redeems itself from that crap. (X-2)

 

 

I'm not a big fan of Nojima's audio drama and novel either, but I do say they have to do another game or movie for X now.

 

Just wondering, what would you rather Kitase & Toriyama do if they don't do this? VII remake? VII-2? XVI? XVII?

Oh God please don't let Toriyama make another game. Anything he directs I hate...

Edited August 24, 2014 by Sorarocks93

[Dio Brando 5,810]

 

I'm actually glad they did this. Yuna doesn't seem to be looking like a slut anymore. 

 

Also I will be glad if it's going to be a sequel. It will be nice if it goes back to its roots and it will be even nicer if it doesn't mention anything that happened in X-2. 

 

I'll just be happy if it redeems itself from that crap. (X-2)

 

 

Oh God please don't let Toriyama make another game. Anything he directs I hate...

 

But dude HOW IS SIN COMING BACK?That makes absolutely 0 sense

 

We destroyed the being that created Sin Yu Yevon,we didn't sacrifice anyone to become the Final Aeon that Yu Yevon would Possess and turn it into Sin

 

This sequel loses all credibility the moment they mention Sin coming back....cuz that makes the entire journey of the first game completely pointless

[allen95 208]

Then it would be better if Yuna just sacrifised herself with final summoning, that way the calm would last 10 years...

hahahaa "eternal calm" for 2 years, come on now...

[Sora96 17,256]

It had an audio drama and you can find it on youtube....it ends with Lightning falling into Valhalla

 

And I didn't say any bad thing about the DLC I just said how it leads to LRFFXIII which is basically XIII-3

 

I was more focusing on X but you shifted to XIII for some reason....I just used it as an example that they're making X-3

 

That's not an audio drama, that's just some people who have recorded the lines from the novella.

 

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_XIII_-Episode_i-

 

Even without the DLC, the ending was still a massive cliff-hanger. And Square Enix only want happy endings.

 

I didn't shift, you brought up XIII. I clearly stated my opinion on this was that I don't like Last Mission, the novella or audio drama but since Nojima decided to write the novella and audio drama they really need to do a X-3.

 

 

Oh God please don't let Toriyama make another game. Anything he directs I hate...

 

 

So you hate X, X-2, XII: Revenant Wings, XIII, XIII-2 and Lightning Returns?

 

He was also an event planner on VII.

 

Too bad, so sad. Kitase picked him, and Kitase and Toriyama love working together as they lead Square Enix's #1 team.

[Sorarocks93 678]

That's not an audio drama, that's just some people who have recorded the lines from the novella.

 

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_XIII_-Episode_i-

 

Even without the DLC, the ending was still a massive cliff-hanger. And Square Enix only want happy endings.

 

I didn't shift, you brought up XIII. I clearly stated my opinion on this was that I don't like Last Mission, the novella or audio drama but since Nojima decided to write the novella and audio drama they really need to do a X-3.

 

 

 

So you hate X, X-2, XII: Revenant Wings, XIII, XIII-2 and Lightning Returns?

 

He was also an event planner on VII.

 

Too bad, so sad. Kitase picked him, and Kitase and Toriyama love working together as they lead Square Enix's #1 team.

But Kitase directed X. Toriyama was just the event director, not director of the entire game. And yes I hate all the others, altough I've never played Revenant Wings. I'm just saying I don't like how he makes his games.

 

One person is enough to change how the game feels, doesn't matter if Kitase likes to work with him.

 

It's like how Kojima Productions are an amazing team but they can't seem to make anything without Kojima leading them...

[Sora96 17,256]

But Kitase directed X. Toriyama was just the event director, not director of the entire game. And yes I hate all the others, altough I've never played Revenant Wings. I'm just saying I don't like how he makes his games.

 

One person is enough to change how the game feels, doesn't matter if Kitase likes to work with him.

 

It's like how Kojima Productions are an amazing team but they can't seem to make anything without Kojima leading them...

 

No he did not. Kitase was simply the producer. Check the title screen intro, check the credits, check the god dam artbook. It simply calls him producer and lists Toriyama as the first director. And as for X's other directors, the battle one was most likely sacked after XIII and the field one is working on FFXV.

[Rami 11]

This bullshit sounds like a firetrucking fanfic

[Sorarocks93 678]

No he did not. Kitase was simply the producer. Check the title screen intro, check the credits, check the god dam artbook. It simply calls him producer and lists Toriyama as the first director. And as for X's other directors, the battle one was most likely sacked after XIII and the field one is working on FFXV.

Well my bad then. Everywhere else I checked it listed Kitase as the director. 

[Sora96 17,256]

Well my bad then. Everywhere else I checked it listed Kitase as the director. 

 

That's okay.

 

[VanitasTheBest 196]

Why wouldn't that make sense? Did you even watch the Video?Sin isn't coming back because Yu-Yevon summoned him again, he's coming back like every other Dead being in Spira. Through the Beckoning. They explained it, there's something wrong with the Farplane, that causes the Dead coming back to a life-kinda state. It's not the real Sin, it's a Zombie-Sin kinda. Sin was just a extremely powerful summoned monster which got out of control. A dead Shoopuf came back to life, so why wouldn't a big monster like Sin also come back?Besides the fact that the Eien no Daishou Story is really... stupid, the FFX -Will- story makes actual sense. You may not like it, but it is a very good Intro and Reason for a third game. That's what they wanted by making this.

[Dio Brando 5,810]

Why wouldn't that make sense? Did you even watch the Video?Sin isn't coming back because Yu-Yevon summoned him again, he's coming back like every other Dead being in Spira. Through the Beckoning. They explained it, there's something wrong with the Farplane, that causes the Dead coming back to a life-kinda state. It's not the real Sin, it's a Zombie-Sin kinda. Sin was just a extremely powerful summoned monster which got out of control. A dead Shoopuf came back to life, so why wouldn't a big monster like Sin also come back?Besides the fact that the Eien no Daishou Story is really... stupid, the FFX -Will- story makes actual sense. You may not like it, but it is a very good Intro and Reason for a third game. That's what they wanted by making this.

I watched it in my HD collection so I'm not as ignorant as you'd like to think I'm

 

And no,Sin is a completely different story

 

Sin was created by Yu Yevon and is pretty much considered an aeon,in order for Sin to be resurrected over and over they need to sacrifice a final aeon(A.K.A the guardian who chose to be a fayth for it) that  Yu Yevon can possess and create another Sin from when the previous one is defeated.They clearly established that in the game's mythology

 

No Yu Yevon=No Sin cuz Sin is just an empty shell without

 

And no this isn't a Zombie Sin....THIS IS THE ACTUAL SIN!!!You can't revive the dead from the Farplane after you send them,the reason Auron,Seymour and Mika managed to remain in the living world is because they're unsents and their will prevented them from turning into fiends

 

Sin was clearly...CLEARLY being sent in FFX and without any sort of aeon for Yu Yevon to use and without Yu Yevon Sin cannot be revived...hence why it's called the goddamn ETERNAL CALM

 

What kind of Eternal Calm that lasts for only TWO YEARS!This Audio drama renders the entire pilgrimage that Yuna did in FFX completely pointless if Sin was gonna come back anyway....they might as well just sacrificed another Summoner and hisher guardian if it's gonna make it last for 10 years unlike this Eternal Calm that lasted for just two

Edited August 24, 2014 by Annoying D Waluigi

[VanitasTheBest 196]

Sin was created by Yu Yevon and is pretty much considered an aeon,in order for Sin to be resurrected over and over they need to sacrifice a final aeon(A.K.A the guardian who chose to be a fayth for it) that  Yu Yevon can possess and create another Sin from when the previous one is defeated.They clearly established that in the game's mythology

 

No Yu Yevon=No Sin cuz Sin is just an empty shell without

 

And no this isn't a Zombie Sin....THIS IS THE ACTUAL SIN!!!You can't revive the dead from the Farplane after you send them,the reason Auron,Seymour and Mika managed to remain in the living world is because they're unsents and their will prevented them from turning into fiends

 

Sin was clearly...CLEARLY being sent in FFX and without any sort of aeon for Yu Yevon to use and without Yu Yevon Sin cannot be revived...hence why it's called the goddamn ETERNAL CALM

You obviously didn't understand the Point in FFX -Will-. The whole point is, that there are actually dead people/beings coming back to life from the Farplane. Why, we don't know until there'll be another continuation of the Story. (Probably has something to do with what happened in Eien no Daishou)This isn't the actual Sin. It's the same as the Shoopuf. An "illusion becoming real". Maybe Yu-Yevon was brought back through the beckoning too, who knows, but still, it's an Illusion.Now read it again. There are illusions becoming real in this Story. Dead coming back to life.This is probably also the reason why the character telling the Story is Auron's Daughter. Because there'll be a chance that she meets him because of this phenomenon.

[Dio Brando 5,810]

You obviously didn't understand the Point in FFX -Will-. The whole point is, that there are actually dead people/beings coming back to life from the Farplane. Why, we don't know until there'll be another continuation of the Story. (Probably has something to do with what happened in Eien no Daishou)This isn't the actual Sin. It's the same as the Shoopuf. An "illusion becoming real". Maybe Yu-Yevon was brought back through the beckoning too, who knows, but still, it's an Illusion.Now read it again. There are illusions becoming real in this Story. Dead coming back to life.This is probably also the reason why the character telling the Story is Auron's Daughter. Because there'll be a chance that she meets him because of this phenomenon.

I understand it and yet that doesn't make it good

 

Also,when and where did Auron get married?And why the heck we never saw his family in neither X or X-2 even though we traveled through all of Spira?You can't tell me he'll randomly ditch his daughter for 10 years,never even attempt to visit her or his wife and then chose to be sent to the farplane before even saying goodbye

 

Chuami's(Auron's "Daughter") existence makes no sense because not even a single mention of her or even her whereabout in Spira has been given through the entirety of both games

[HikariYami 354]

Like I have said before: Final Fantasy X should have stayed a single game. Tidus should have never came back. Sin is dead. Yuna and company would move on. It was a melancholy ending, but it was good. This novel and Audio Drama and FFX-2 should have never existed. Although, I love FFXIII, FFXIII-2, and LR:FFXIII, FFXIII should have stayed a single game too because hardly anyone in America really tried to read the novels. They needed to put more backstory in the game. If you read the novels for FFXIII series, it makes a hella more sense.

 

But you know, money talks.

[VanitasTheBest 196]

I understand it and yet that doesn't make it good

 

Also,when and where did Auron get married?And why the heck we never saw his family in neither X or X-2 even though we traveled through all of Spira?You can't tell me he'll randomly ditch his daughter for 10 years,never even attempt to visit her or his wife and then chose to be sent to the farplane before even saying goodbye

 

Chuami's(Auron's "Daughter") existence makes no sense because not even a single mention of her or even her whereabout in Spira has been given through the entirety of both games

 

First of all: You don't have to be married to have kids. Second of all: Why did we never see Paine, Shuyin or Lenne in FFX? That's a question asked out of pure butthurt. New titles in a Series means new characters with connections to already existing characters. It's in almost every series. It's goddamn fictional dude. You don't know anything about Auron's "life", so they can add everything they want and it would still make perfect sense. He could have been a women some time in the past and we don't know about it.And also, just because he has a daughter, it doesn't mean he knows about her. And even if he did, he never had a reason to tell anyone about her. If she's really his daughter we'll only get an explanation (again) in the continuation, if there'll be one.

 

And I'm not saying it's making it good, I'm just saying that it actually makes sense. If there'll be another Game and it's based on Eien no Daishou, I don't think it'll have many fans. 

[Dio Brando 5,810]

First of all: You don't have to be married to have kids. Second of all: Why did we never see Paine, Shuyin or Lenne in FFX? That's a question asked out of pure butthurt. New titles in a Series means new characters with connections to already existing characters. It's in almost every series. It's goddamn fictional dude. You don't know anything about Auron's "life", so they can add everything they want and it would still make perfect sense. He could have been a women some time in the past and we don't know about it.And also, just because he has a daughter, it doesn't mean he knows about her. And even if he did, he never had a reason to tell anyone about her. If she's really his daughter we'll only get an explanation (again) in the continuation, if there'll be one.

 

And I'm not saying it's making it good, I'm just saying that it actually makes sense. If there'll be another Game and it's based on Eien no Daishou, I don't think it'll have many fans. 

Then what is it Auron raped a random woman and got babies?

 

And no I'm not butthurt heck this is my first time ever completing FFX and I spoiled X-2 because I could never bring myself to play that piece of shit

 

Shuyin's existence in X-2 made no sense either in relation to Jecht and again even if it made sense that doesn't make it good writing

 

Just because I know how a turd came to existence that doesn't make it anything more than a turd

 

The Audio Drama wasn't necessary at all and they could've just left the story as it is and move on to new project instead of beating a dead horse again like what they did with the XIII games

[HikariYami 354]

Then what is it Auron raped a random woman and got babies?

 

And no I'm not butthurt heck this is my first time ever completing FFX and I spoiled X-2 because I could never bring myself to play that piece of shit

 

Shuyin's existence in X-2 made no sense either in relation to Jecht and again even if it made sense that doesn't make it good writing

 

Just because I know how a turd came to existence that doesn't make it anything more than a turd

 

The Audio Drama wasn't necessary at all and they could've just left the story as it is and move on to new project instead of beating a dead horse again like what they did with the XIII games

Shuyin was an unsent that was buried in the Lock cave by Djose Temple. His grief and pain was locked in there. The Crimson Squad would send its candidates to the cave.  When the Nooj, Baralai, Gippal, and Paine entered the cave for a Crimson Squad test, Shuyin's madness took over everyone and they committed suicide or murder. However, they managed to get out alive. Shuyin was controlling Nooj because he manifested in Nooj who then shot BGP in the back because Shuyin did not want his Vegnagun plan to get out. That is why Nooj was obsessed with Vegnagun. Shuyin then takes over Baralai.

 

Tidus's existence was built upon Shuyin. Shuyin was a blitzball player; Lenne was a summoner. Sounds familiar? 

Tidus lived in Dream Zanarkand which was located in the sea. That is how Auron and Sin got there. It was built upon the thoughts and memories of the Fayth. 

 

It is the Crimson Sphere mission. You have to find all the spheres and watch them to unlock the cave. 

 

FFXIII was never beating a dead horse. If you read the novels and the mythos of Etro, Bhunivelze, Pulse, etc..., FFXIII would make a hella more sense. It answers why Caius has the Heart of Chaos. Why Lightning was Etro's champion. How Etro became the goddess of death. etc..

Edited August 24, 2014 by HikariYami

[Dio Brando 5,810]

Shuyin was an unsent that was buried in the Lock cave by Djose Temple. His grief and pain was locked in there. The Crimson Squad would send its candidates to the cave.  When the Nooj, Baralai, Gippal, and Paine entered the cave for a Crimson Squad test, Shuyin's madness took over everyone and they committed suicide or murder. However, they managed to get out alive. Shuyin was controlling Nooj because he manifested in Nooj who then shot BGP in the back because Shuyin did not want his Vegnagun plan to get out. That is why Nooj was obsessed with Vegnagun. Shuyin then takes over Baralai.

 

It is the Crimson Sphere mission. You have to find all the spheres and watch them to unlock the cave. 

But how is he Jecht's son?

[HikariYami 354]

But how is he Jecht's son?

He is not. Jecht, like Tidus, was a product of Dream Zanarkand built by the Fayth.