This is a game, no current characters and no saying stuff like

'We don't even have KH3 yet why are you speculating so far ahead?'.

This is purely a creative game in which we can share ideas and concepts about the next antagonist.

 

This guy is an extremely powerful foe who introduces a new type of power we have yet to see. Right after the keyblade war, members of the losing side banished themselves to the realm of darkness so they would not be punished. This group of people grew and bred to become a clan who possess complete control over the heartless. They can give any shape or form to darkness, using it for weapons or dark based attacks, they can fuse heartless together to form even more powerful ones. Eventually they became discovered by a group of  keyblade wielders (This occurs before BBS) and one of the children witnesses the death of his entire clan and is then killed. As the heartless are still present in the ROD, they devour the hearts of the clan before the hearts can leave the bodies. This gives birth to several nobodies. These nobodies decide to hunt down all keyblade wielders in revenge.

A simple bare-knuckle boxer who's kicking butt . Have him do something really really bad that's gonna cause a lot of problems . 

Some details : He's been fighting on the undergound for a long time (let's say during the events of KH DDD and KH III) . He's made a name for himself and he wants to challenge a Keyblade Master to a fight . Someone answers the challenge (maybe somebody like Riku ) and gets destroyed by him . He steals his Keyblade (that means that there are necessarily going to be new rules about Keyblade wielding) and he causes chaos all over the Universe . He brings back some old guys and he makes them join him . He , then , builds a clan that is an unstoppable force .

 

I really haven't thought of a name . Any suggestions ?

A simple bare-knuckle boxer who's kicking butt . Have him do something really really bad that's gonna cause a lot of problems . 

Some details : He's been fighting on the undergound for a long time (let's say during the events of KH DDD and KH III) . He's made a name for himself and he wants to challenge a Keyblade Master to a fight . Someone answers the challenge (maybe somebody like Riku ) and gets destroyed by him . He steals his Keyblade (that means that there are necessarily going to be new rules about Keyblade wielding) and he causes chaos all over the Universe . He brings back some old guys and he makes them join him . He , then , builds a clan that is an unstoppable force .

 

I really haven't thought of a name . Any suggestions

 

 

David Haye

David Haye

But wait a minute... David is an actual real-life boxer . Does SE include real-life names like this in their games ?

fence

I shall be quoting from another topic known as 'Your Ideal Kingdom Hearts game'

 

 

 

Title: Kingdom Hearts-Return From DarknessPlatform: PS4, PS5, Xbox One, Xbox TwoThis game is the beginning of the second KH saga, where we play as Sora. The villain is a girl who was born and raised within the Realm of Darkness. When she reaches the age of 13, she sneaks out of her home and encounters the Heartless, which she had heard so much about. But they do not fight her, as we would imagine. Instead, she began to play with them and simply having fun. She began doing this on a daily basis until she was 18. At this point, she begins to train with them and eventually, control them. Her friends become her minions and her slaves.  Once she was able to control the Heartless completely, she killed her parents due to the darkness eating away at her heart, slowly devouring her until... she turns into a Heartless herself. At this point, she's much stronger in this monstrous form. Eventually, she she is able to use Corridors of Darkness and finds herself within the Realm of Light. Her new home... her new kingdom to rule. With all this power, she begins to ravage worlds, turn more people into Heartless and increase the strength of her army. At some point in beginning or middle of the game, Sora and the gang find this girl's Nobody. This Nobody states that she regrets her failure to control the darkness within her and ending up split into two. The Nobody joins the Guardians of Light to search her Heartless and either destroy it or force it to reunite with the Nobody. It is here that she becomes a playable character. And so the search begins...

Against all odds. Cruella de vil rise to power, and takes out Maleficent as newest Disney rival, trying to take over all worlds simple becasie it's fun

I can't take credit for the base concept, but I've expanded on this one quite a bit.

 

Since Xehanort will presumably be defeated in KHIII, it makes sense that the next villain might be someone trying to take advantage of the power vacuum.  While you could probably make a whole game out of Maleficent trying to take over again, that's boring for our purposes, so my design goals are to create a villain that contrasts both Xehanort (for variety) and Maleficent (because they would have to actively contest Maleficent during the game).  Just because Maleficent isn't the central villain doesn't mean she wouldn't try.

 

The new villains would be a set of Light-extremists, who see Xehanort's fall as a chance for Light to reassert itself as the dominant force in the universe... at whatever cost.  Because Light draws its strength from interpersonal connections, the villains would probably be a tightly-knit group of four or five villains with strong personal connections and detailed backstories (the low number of characters allows us to go into further depth with each).  Their archetypes would be based on some of the more disciplined or control-oriented FF classes: Black Belt, Beastmaster, Blue Mage (it takes a lot of discipline to get a full set of blue magic), maybe something from FFXIII for some sci-fi variety (otherwise a Templar from Tactics), and I'm thinking a Mystic Knight / Spellblade / Rune Fencer as leader.  I don't want the big bad to have another Keyblade, but seeing Sora clash with someone whose swords are literally alive with fire and lightning (and of course, Light) would be worth the ticket.

 

For the Rune Fencer, I'm thinking a woman in her early middle years (40-45) but seems much older due to the stress of constantly fighting against the infinite evils of the universe.  This is someone who was probably a lot like Sora in her younger years and probably wasn't that bad a person, until time began to tell, showing a possible alternate future for our hero he'll have to learn to avoid.  Incorporate those signs of wear and tear into her design: broken nose, maybe a prominent burn.  We want a slimmer design to contrast with Maleficent's flowing robes, so that means short hair and armour.  A broken empress grasping at the world.

 

The designs of the other Light villains would be based on which heroes we brought into the game.  Aqua seems like an inevitable casting choice given the themes, and it would probably serve to give Ansem the Wise a foil, even if he's not actually present.  Meanwhile, give Maleficent some real chaotic villains as allies: Madam Mim, Kefka if possible, maybe the Horned King and Doctor Facilier and their defiance of life and death.

 

Minor enemies would be Soul-based, since the Soul is not vulnerable to the ravages of the real world (the Body) or the chaos of the Heart.  That means a lot of ghosts, vapour effects, and empty shells, a lot of opportunities for a next gen particle or physics system to play around with.  Naturally there would still be Heartless when tripping into Maleficent's territory.  When on a world dominated by the Light villains, their impact would tend towards a sort of perverted stagnation rather than corruption: the plot of Atlantis may have come to a grinding halt because everyone feels too lethargic to move (or kill each other for that matter), the plot of Dinosaur has come to a grinding halt in the wasteland as they wander perpetually lost no matter what they do (which if you think about it, sounds like the actual hellish plot of Dinosaur).  Also, I would continue my neverending campaign to get David Xanatos from Gargoyles into Kingdom Hearts and have him be an ally of the Light villains.  He's the premier Disney example of Lawful Evil - he deserves to be here.

 

Lastly, reference FFIII and make their final dungeon a Crystal Tower.  Because they don't trust their Hearts to remember things for them, the Crystal walls of the tower could be full of records of hellish "True Memories" (from CoM) of the world that's beaten them down, so Sora knows exactly what he's talking about when he has to confront them with their actions later on.  I can think of two approaches for this: either the True Memories would resolve a lot of long-standing mysteries from the plot, or they could, in actuality, be broken funhouse mirror versions of reality, letting them do some real fun stuff with level design for the finale.  Throw in teenaged memories of the bad guys as true final bosses or superbosses, and you've got some interesting potential!

 

Of course, Maleficent might make an even better final boss (or Kefka!).  After all, the Light villains are gone now, and one good power vacuum deserves another...

Edited July 24, 201510 yr by Blackdrazon

I can't take credit for the base concept, but I've expanded on this one quite a bit.

 

Since Xehanort will presumably be defeated in KHIII, it makes sense that the next villain might be someone trying to take advantage of the power vacuum.  While you could probably make a whole game out of Maleficent trying to take over again, that's boring for our purposes, so my design goals are to create a villain that contrasts both Xehanort (for variety) and Maleficent (because they would have to actively contest Maleficent during the game).  Just because Maleficent isn't the central villain doesn't mean she wouldn't try.

 

The new villains would be a set of Light-extremists, who see Xehanort's fall as a chance for Light to reassert itself as the dominant force in the universe... at whatever cost.  Because Light draws its strength from interpersonal connections, the villains would probably be a tightly-knit group of four or five villains with strong personal connections and detailed backstories (the low number of characters allows us to go into further depth with each).  Their archetypes would be based on some of the more disciplined or control-oriented FF classes: Black Belt, Beastmaster, Blue Mage (it takes a lot of discipline to get a full set of blue magic), maybe something from FFXIII for some sci-fi variety (otherwise a Templar from Tactics), and I'm thinking a Mystic Knight / Spellblade / Rune Fencer as leader.  I don't want the big bad to have another Keyblade, but seeing Sora clash with someone whose swords are literally alive with fire and lightning (and of course, Light) would be worth the ticket.

 

For the Rune Fencer, I'm thinking a woman in her early middle years (40-45) but seems much older due to the stress of constantly fighting against the infinite evils of the universe.  This is someone who was probably a lot like Sora in her younger years and probably wasn't that bad a person, until time began to tell, showing a possible alternate future for our hero he'll have to learn to avoid.  Incorporate those signs of wear and tear into her design: broken nose, maybe a prominent burn.  We want a slimmer design to contrast with Maleficent's flowing robes, so that means short hair and armour.  A broken empress grasping at the world.

 

The designs of the other Light villains would be based on which heroes we brought into the game.  Aqua seems like an inevitable casting choice given the themes, and it would probably serve to give Ansem the Wise a foil, even if he's not actually present.  Meanwhile, give Maleficent some real chaotic villains as allies: Madam Mim, Kefka if possible, maybe the Horned King and Doctor Facilier and their defiance of life and death.

 

Minor enemies would be Soul-based, since the Soul is not vulnerable to the ravages of the real world (the Body) or the chaos of the Heart.  That means a lot of ghosts, vapour effects, and empty shells, a lot of opportunities for a next gen particle or physics system to play around with.  Naturally there would still be Heartless when tripping into Maleficent's territory.  When on a world dominated by the Light villains, their impact would tend towards a sort of perverted stagnation rather than corruption: the plot of Atlantis may have come to a grinding halt because everyone feels too lethargic to move (or kill each other for that matter), the plot of Dinosaur has come to a grinding halt in the wasteland as they wander perpetually lost no matter what they do (which if you think about it, sounds like the actual hellish plot of Dinosaur).  Also, I would continue my neverending campaign to get David Xanatos from Gargoyles into Kingdom Hearts and have him be an ally of the Light villains.  He's the premier Disney example of Lawful Evil - he deserves to be here.

 

Lastly, reference FFIII and make their final dungeon a Crystal Tower.  Because they don't trust their Hearts to remember things for them, the Crystal walls of the tower could be full of records of hellish "True Memories" (from CoM).  I can think of two approaches for this: either the True Memories would resolve a lot of long-standing mysteries from the plot, or they could, in actuality, be broken funhouse mirror versions of reality, letting them do some real fun stuff with level design for the finale.  Throw in teenaged memories of the bad guys as true final bosses or superbosses, and you've got some interesting potential!

 

Of course, Maleficent might make an even better final boss (or Kefka!).  After all, the Light villains are gone now, and one good power vacuum deserves another...

Now that's an answer aha

- It should be two unions (like in Pokemon ORAS) who are enemies to each other and want to have dominance in all worlds. They share the same goals but have differences about how to lead the world after free it from keyblade wielders.

- They want to eliminate all keyblade wielders because the keyblade wars brought chaos to all worlds.

- They collect hearts to awake an ancient monster.

- "Dark light" is introduced which blind our heroes and lead them to the wrong path, which cause negativity towards keyblade wielders in all Disney and non Disney worlds.

-Mickey's nobody (without memories) is working behind the strings along with a mysterious man.

- It should be two unions (like in Pokemon ORAS) who are enemies to each other and want to have dominance in all worlds. They share the same goals but have differences about how to lead the world after free it from keyblade wielders.- They want to eliminate all keyblade wielders because the keyblade wars brought chaos to all worlds.- They collect hearts to awake an ancient monster.- "Dark light" is introduced which blind our heroes and lead them to the wrong path, which cause negativity towards keyblade wielders in all Disney and non Disney worlds.-Mickey's nobody (without memories) is working behind the strings along with a mysterious man.

Oooooooh I like that idea.

An idiot, a comedic idiot. A comedic, idiotic and powerful antagonist. Somebody who is such a stark contrast to Xehanort that he's threatening in his own right.

An idiot, a comedic idiot. A comedic, idiotic and powerful antagonist. Somebody who is such a stark contrast to Xehanort that he's threatening in his own right.

Like kefka?

Like kefka?

 

Exactly. The serious villain has been done to death. Lets have a Yzma like villain who provides a lot of comedy to the series.

In contrary to the old Xehanort the next villain should be a young boy (age between 10 and 15). Of course he's not really that young, but changes his appearance to look innocent, so no one would consider him evil.

 

He would creep in the worlds, destroys them and be always the only one who survives. The protagonist goes on a journey to figure out who's responsible for all the chaos, so when the young boy hears about that, he befriends the protagonist and accompanies him, to seek a way to defeat him.

Light extremists doesn't make sense though. Sora is a light extremist, he wants the universe to be all light? and so do all our heroes?

Light extremists doesn't make sense though. Sora is a light extremist, he wants the universe to be all light? and so do all our heroes?

 

Sora was only a light extremist because, in the original kingdom Hearts, light and darkness were black and white. Now that we see characters like Riku and Lea embracing darkness for good and the Foretellers wanting to hunt light for selfish desires, a light extremist is no longer too far-fetched as Sora is no longer a light extremist. He has darkness that's lingering and he does not have anything against darkness itself.

For a siide-game that is canon. I would choose Ultimecia the witch that controls time from Final Fantasy VIII. In the Kingdom Hearts series she is queen of new creatures that consume time from other worlds through the keyholes of time to the point the world erases from existence while Ultimecia becomes powerful. Kairi is Ultimecia's foe, but the truth of Ultimecia is that she is Kairi corrupted by time, and possessed by Ultimecia during there final battle trapping Kairi in a infinite cycle till the final cycle were the Kairi the fans are playing defeats Ultimecia with the help of her friends. She later returns in the main, and side games as a threat to the heroes. I even vision Jennifer Morrison voicing Ultimecia.