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hey everyone this read is a bit different to other u need to read the ansem reports to under stand it

okay back a while ago i was reading the ansem reports in kh2 when i noticed ansem write about the heart the body and the soul he explanes how all three of them are mager parts of a human form and we have seen what becomes of a human if there heart falls to darkness they turn to a heartless and when a stronge hearted person falls to the darkness good or evil they become a nobody but what becomes of the soul does it disaper or does it turn into a new type of enemy we will fight in the future

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It's simply amazing how you managed to create a post of this size without using any grammar and punctuations.

it probably just dissapears instead of it turning into a new enemy

Very interesting. I hate how he has to hide stuff like this in video games.

i was thinking the same thing. i think it would be cool to bring in a new enemy through that. it should be addressed at some point. i doubt they put that in there for the heck of it.

The soul simply goes along with the body to create a nobody. If not then a heartless, but I am pretty sure its a nobody.

what keystrike said... and more: nobody= body, soul, no heart. soul is what drives the nobody to keep going. soul is the WILL TO LIVE.

i guess its possible after all there three different types of enemys, why cant there be more

Yeah, here's the thing. A Nobody is made up of both the leftover body and soul when a strong hearted person becomes a Heartless.

i think the soul goes on with the body. your soul is the energy that keeps you living. once the soul is gone, you die.

one of the reasons the nobodys dont just dissapper when the heart is gone is the soul is still there. the energy thats giving them life is still burning.

 

heart+soul+body= complete person

 

soul+body-heart= nobody

 

 

 

heart+body-soul= dead person.

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i think the soul goes on with the body. your soul is the energy that keeps you living. once the soul is gone, you die.

one of the reasons the nobodys dont just dissapper when the heart is gone is the soul is still there. the energy thats giving them life is still burning.

 

heart+soul+body= complete person

 

soul+body-heart= nobody

 

 

 

heart+body-soul= dead person.

 

yes but nobodys dont even exsist so how can they live so the soul must become a new enemy in kh3 thing about it like

yes but nobodys dont even exsist so how can they live so the soul must become a new enemy in kh3 thing about it like

 

It's not that they don't exist, it's that they don't exist in the same context as humans. A heart holds your identity; it's what shapes the body, what makes you you. Since Nobodies lack their hearts, they lack the thing that makes them Somebody. In that sense, they don't exist.

 

Nobodies are confirmed to be the body and soul, so I really don't see where this confusion is coming from o.O

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yes but nobodys dont even exsist so how can they live so the soul must become a new enemy in kh3 thing about it like

 

It's not that they don't exist, it's that they don't exist in the same context as humans. A heart holds your identity; it's what shapes the body, what makes you you. Since Nobodies lack their hearts, they lack the thing that makes them Somebody. In that sense, they don't exist.

 

Nobodies are confirmed to be the body and soul, so I really don't see where this confusion is coming from o.O

 

no yin sid himself said they dont exist at all and so did xemnas and other members of the organzation

Read Ansems report #xiii:

 

When the heart casts away the body, where does the body go?

Heart and soul are separate, and the soul remains in the body. But can we assume that the remaining body and soul perish?

Certainly when the heart changes into a Heartless, the body disappears.

Or does that apply solely to this realm? Could other beings similar to the Heartless exist in another realm?

If we take that to be the case, then there must be another form of oneself elsewhere.

An existence neither of darkness nor of light. An in-between existence. Cast off by the heart, a mere shell, one who begrudges both the darkness and the light.

This mystery cannot be easily resolved. The relationship between the heart and the body is a complex one.

But since we exist in this realm, our counterparts of another realm must not be existent.

Therefore I shall call them...

"The non-existent ones."

 

The main reason they are called non-existent is because they exist in the realm of nothing but not our realm. Xemnas and Yen Sid meant that they don't exist in this realm not that they don't exist at all.

I made a thread like this a while ago.....

 

I do believe there will be a Soul related enemy in the near future. Exactly why?

 

Yes, Nobodies do have their bodies and souls intact. But only the Humanoid Nobodies have reason for a soul. They actually have memories, and personalities. The rest of the Nobodies are mindless creatures with absolutely no individual personality.

Lets say one of these mindless Nobodies are slayed, but the person's Heartless is still alive. What happens to the soul that was attached to the body? I'm sure it doesn't just "die". It is a possibility that if a Nobody is destroyed without the Heartless counterpart being destroyed, the Soul could be released. Now this is just a theory, but it is legit.

I made a thread like this a while ago.....

 

I do believe there will be a Soul related enemy in the near future. Exactly why?

 

Yes, Nobodies do have their bodies and souls intact. But only the Humanoid Nobodies have reason for a soul. They actually have memories, and personalities. The rest of the Nobodies are mindless creatures with absolutely no individual personality.

Lets say one of these mindless Nobodies are slayed, but the person's Heartless is still alive. What happens to the soul that was attached to the body? I'm sure it doesn't just "die". It is a possibility that if a Nobody is destroyed without the Heartless counterpart being destroyed, the Soul could be released. Now this is just a theory, but it is legit.

 

But nobodies do have personalities. Remember in the manga they were drawing all over Roxas' face. Just kidding I know the mangas are not cannon.

 

Concerning this topic seriously. The soul is only what gives it "life" you know, so it can walk around and do whatever. The strength of the heart is what determines whether it will maintain human form or take a regular enemy but I think you know that already. I am a bit confused on the importance of the first part but I am following you theory enough. It sounds like you are saying that in a similar way that a when a keyblade slays a heartless (darkness+heart) a heart is released that when a nobody is slain (body+soul) a soul is released and it becomes a new enemy. While with a little bit of Nomura magic could make this happen there are a couple problems.

-no connection to antagonist, because Xehanort will return from the slain heartless and nobody scenario (this is where you would add Nomura magic)

-The slain heartless and nobody scenario seems to take the place of where this theory would go.

-Sora only kills a relatively small amount of nobodies making it hard to have a huge army.

-If these soul creatures were from the weak nobodies then even the small group couldn't be too powerful

-There is no need for more filler enemies if there are heartless.

-Another enemy has not been hinted at yet

 

Final words: I doubt this will happen but then again Vanitas and the unversed proved me wrong on how much power Nomura has to do what he wants, so if Nomura wants it you got it.

 

no yin sid himself said they dont exist at all and so did xemnas and other members of the organzation

 

Did you skip over the first part of my post? Because I clearly explained the whole "not existing" thing. -__-

BBS Secret boss, the symbols on the blades. The symbols have never been seen before, and the person is an unknown enemy -hint hint-

 

 

But you do have a point, keystrike, with the rest of your posts. I imagine that the army wouldn't be too big, but maybe the game will feature a trio of enemies? Or a possible quad-trio, if Vanitas returns with the Unversed. If it's Nomura, it's possible.

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