Key2Oblivion

I know I've had my share of theories but has anyone thought of the fact that he's just a secret boss...nothing else? I mean look at KH1 there was phantom from neverland and that huge one with the swords in Agrabah(not even gunna try to spell his name) and neither of them had anything to do with the story. Also, for everyone saying how Xemnas was in Final Mix and turned out to be the final boss in KH2 and the Lingering Spirit was your character in the final mix+ was your character in the Bbs final boss fight, that may be true but MF was in all versions not just final mix

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Ummmm....where did it ever say that in the game? Or was it a kh novel or something?

So in KH1 it is what Ansem SOD was looking for(right? lol haven't played it since it came out), in KH2 it was going to be used by the Organization to give them hearts, but in Birth By Sleep it's used for.... I mean in all of the side games(Com, Days, and I guess coded) Kingdom hearts wasn't really talked about, and had nothing to do with those games, I haven't played coded so I'm not sure if it has anything to do with that game. Also, Birth By Sleep is a major game when talking about story so I'm not sure this can be called a side game. Anyway in Birth By Sleep MX shoots that ball of light/darkness/whatever into the sky and Kingdom Hearts appears. But what does that have to do with anything?

I worded it wrong. I meant fight with Axel as in teaming up with him. It's the fight against the nobodies right before you get to the world that never was(I think...again its been a long time since I played it). Anyway when I said he's "catching his breath" I mean for most of the fight he's on one knee not doin much

In KH2 when you fought with Axel as Sora he would constantly be catching his breath you know? I'm guessing it's because of the final fight between him and roxas but I'm pretty sure I remember him taking breaks when Roxas and Axel first fight during the struggle competition. Only problem is i can't play KH2 to check and all the videos I find on youtube the guy doesn't give Axel a break and beats him quickly. So if he's fine until that battle against Roxas then this is basically a waist of a thread haha, but if he's always taking those breaks then why?

What does Roxas mean when he says "Tell me...why did he pick you?" at 2:10 I feel like I knew when I played the game but I just can't seem to remember(it's been a few years since I played it.)

They attack where you originally were when you use vanish and then after you attack they attack that area.

where have you heard he might be more than one guy?

Umm here's a thought...So I saw this video where the guy believes that MF is Luxord, and he showed some things that proved his theory but it's still a weak arguement. Anyway I looked at some of the comments and someone said that this guy might be a combination of the whole organization. Now I know this is a very far fetched but it's not impossible. I mean look at the connections: Xemnas:The blades he uses(enough people already believe it) Xigbar:In kh2 when you fight Xigbar he shoots a spear that reflects off the walls, this resembles the attack where MF jumps up shoots that spear at you and drags you up Xaldin:Power of wind(that tornado attack MF does, see roxas/ven) Vexen:After you land a few hits on MF he put up a barrier? Lexaeus:nothing at all... Zexion:Clones(MF uses them and so did Zexion), Illusions(MF invisibility)also MF can scramble your commands and Zexion takes away your cards in CoM Saix:Same body and keyblade reward resembles saix's weapon(ehh some people have pointed it out) Axel:Power of Fire(that fire charge MF does) Demyx:Clones(already used I know but not much else for Demyx) Luxord:Power of Time(Luxord can manipulate it, MF obviously can) Marluxia:Lasers(MF sends out those light orbs that shoot lasers, Marluxia sent out those petals) Larxene:Clones(again) **Roxas/Ven:Dual Wielding his blades/Power over wind(Ventus means wind), holds blades backwards(ehh it's there), Ven's keyblade looks like a clock cog, vanitas' keyblade looks like a gear, keyblade reward looks like a clock, Ven's Wingblade and these blades(to me) look the same, slightly tho. Well there are the connections I've seen. Again I know this is far fetched but again not impossible. I tried figuring out how this guy would have come to be and I thought that if heartless release hearts when they die maybe nobodies give away energy when they are defeated. So when each member of the organization died they each gave off their energy and it manifested itself into this guy. The reason Roxas has ** next to his name is because he didn't really die. Also the reason he is in birth by sleep could be to make the x-blade?(haven't thought that through). But the reason he can come back in time is because he has Luxord's power of time manipulation. Well there's my two sense on the other guy's two sense. Also, if there are holes let me know and I'll get back to you tomorrow...the whole reason I wrote this is because it was racing through my mind(you know how you get random thoughts before you go to bed haha)

I feel terrible now lol I didn't have too much trouble with the game on proud mode but MF just kicks my ass...I mean lvl 53 terra if it matters(just borrowing the game and psp from a friend and I'm giving it back next week so I'm not even trying with Ven and Aqua)

I picked mine basically cause oblivion is my favorite keyblade and this was the best way I could word it haha.

Only reason I'm asking is cause he technically had 3 hearts inside of him. Terra, Master Eraqus, and Master Xehanort. So what happens when a person with multiple hearts turns into a heartless? I mean in Sora's case Roxas was made with Ven's heart, and as far as I know he is the only person to turn into a heartless with multiple hearts in him. So when Apprentice Xehanort turned into a heartless where did those hearts go?

http://kh13.com/forum/topic/20748-why/ I read it in this thread...I know it's not official by any means lol

I always had this problem with kingdom hearts 1 and i don't know why I remembered it but ehh. Anyway when you return to traverse town in KH1 Riku takes Sora's keyblade and it doesn't vanish and return to Sora like it should've(I never understood that). But then when you reach Hollow Bastion the keyblade leaves Sora for Riku, but then later return to Sora blah blah blah. Anyway my problem is that when they met in Traverse town how could they both wield it? I mean the keyblade was meant for Riku so when he threw it back at Sora shouldn't it have returned to him? The only reason I could think of as to why it stuck with Sora was because his heart was stronger at the time, but then why didn't it return to him when Riku had it? So am I just over thinking this and missing the obvious reason or...?

So I just read that Apprentice Xehanort used Destiny's Embrace to unlock the keyhole in hollw bastion/radiant garden...but isn't that the same keyblade riku gives to Kairi in KH2? So how does Riku get it in the first place?

I don't see what the big deal is. I mean the other day I had a dream that I was in a COD zombie map with my friends, but the thing is I just finished up round with em so that was the last thing on my mind. So if he just got done playing KH or it was running through his mind before he went to sleep(you know how you start thinking of random things before you go to sleep) it's only natural he had a dream about it...I mean the fact that he remembered so much and that the dream was that detailed is kinda weird but I guess he has a good imagination.

Any reason the organization members rearrange their names and add an x? I mean does it have to do with the x-blade from birth by sleep? Sorry if this has already asked this but I'm just wondering.

If you think about it basically everything in this series ties into itself at some point or another. My favorite example revolve around Ven and Sora. First being the creation of Roxas. For any who doesn't know, Roxas is Sora's nobody and he was created when Sora released the hearts within him. One of those hearts belonged to Ventus so that gave Roxas Ven's appearance, Ven's heart, and the ability to weild two keyblade(one because of Sora, the other because of Ven). So the fact that this connection can be seen through those three major games, and maybe in some of the side games, has to mean that this has been planned since the beginning right? There are many more that link game to game, like Xigbar constantly mocking Sora, saying how "he"(Ven) used to give him the same look, or Xemnas being in KH Final Mix then being a main antagonist in KH2. There are ALOT others so just gets you wondering how much was planned from the beginning.

well I guess your right but still there is sorta bragging rights, if your like that...like me haha. Anyway I saw in another forum someone point out that Land of Departure was Castle Oblivion and he called it months before the game came out. So it would be cool to have that sort of "premonition" I guess.

I can't play kh 1, kh2, re:chain of memories because my lil brothers put like playdoh or something in the memory card slots after I gave it to them(gave it to them when I got my ps3) and my ps3 can't play ps2 games. I sold my ds to get a 3ds so I can't play chain of memories and I lost Days.

I just finished Birth by Sleep and it got me in the mood to play kingdom hearts. Only problem is I can't play any of the older ones and I'm completely done with birth by sleep...well except for the mystery figure and I don't plan on beating him anytime soon. So is re:coded important to the main story at all? Is it worth buying?

So I finally got my hands on bbs last week, yea I know I'm a little late. Anyway I just got the blank points ending and I have some questions...well alot actually so bear with me and I'll break the question down into the sections they were introduced. Hidden Truths: 1. When does Eraqus enter Terra's heart? 2. When MX says that Terra is "one of many roads he might choose to take" does that mean he has other people he believes he can control and take over? If so, any ideas who? Image of their backs,preserved in memory: nothing really Two who were never meant to meet: 1. How does Ansem the Wise end up in the Realm of Darkness? 2. He says that this is his second time there, any idea when he first went there? 3. When Ansem talks about Sora he says how the worlds almost fell to darkness more than once and how he met Sora at least a year ago, so does that mean the meeting between Ansem and Aqua takes place after KH2? 4. What is the significance of the people saying Sora's name? Like are they people he has helped? People he is supposed to help? 5. Does anyone else think that Terra waking up Ven is foreshadowing something in the future? Like this "revived" Xehanort finds and wakes up Ven in a future game? Where they wait for him: Nothing Also, do the titles mean anything? Well hopefully someone can answer these. Anyway any and all help is appreciated.

I think this guy is somehow related to Ven. I mean like -iAD said Ven's keyblade looks like a clock cog and vanitas' keyblade looks like a gear. Then the MF attacks dealing with time, so I think there would be a connection. Also, some weaker arguements you could make for the connection would be the blades MF uses and Ven's Wingblade mode. I know they aren't exactly the same but there are some similiarites between the blades and Ven holds his keyblade backwards like MF holds his one backwards(again not strong arguements but little connections).

I gotta say I would love the idea of multiplayer but with kingdom hearts being what it is there are limited options for online imo. Like most of the ideas you mentioned were successful because they were a part of the games they were a part of. I know that sounds like a bs excuse but I don't really know how else to word it. The multiplayer I feel kingdom hearts could have would be co op stuff. Like mission mode, or survival like you mentioned, but thats about it...maybe they could test out a 1 v 1 sort of thing but thats about it. Anyway hopefully there is multiplayer in the future and hopefully they put thought into and it's not something square just throws onto the game.