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What's your favourite protagonist-antagonist relationship?

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As in, what protagonist-antagonist relationship/rivalry do you like the most? This can be from a book, a manga, an anime, a game, a TV show or movie etc.

 

The relationship consists of their past together, the way their 'rivalry' is set up, how their beliefs and goals contrast/or are similar and how the two interact with each other. 

 

I'll give some examples if you don't understand 

 

Batman and the Joker

Goku and Freiza 

Spiderman and the Green Goblin

Light Yagami and L

Cloud and Sephiroth

Naruto and Sasuke (yes, Sasuke is a villain)

Sora and Xehanort

Ventus and Vanitas 

 

etc

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Luffy and Blackbeard.

 

Their first meeting is really special imo, because they had a lot in common. Both men have their dreams and they don't care about anyone else's opinion. Blackbeard's speech to Luffy is still the best in One Piece, and back then I would have never thought that he will become such an antagonist to Luffy.

Randy Orton and Wade Barrett from WWE. My favorite rivalry even if it lasted for 3-4 months .

Sonic and Shadow. You honestly never know as to when they will be friends or foe. They're contrasting personalities are entertaining to watch!

These are pretty much my most favorite protagonist/antagonist relationship. I can literally watch their relationship all day without getting bored.

Ventus and Vanitas

Spider-Man and Venom

Sonic and Shadow

Riku and Young Xehanort

Batman and Poison Ivy

Batman and The Joker

Wonder Woman and Cheetah

Naruto and Sasuke

Riku and Xehanort's Heartless and Young Xehanort

Pokemon MC's and the Teams - Team Rocket, and so on.

Noctis now in FFXV and not saying anymore since the game just came out and people haven't played it.

Sora and Xehanort

 

When the hell did Sora and Xehanort interact with each other?

 

I really like a lot of the relationships and interactions in the Assassin's Creed series, but the one that stands out a lot to me is Connor and Haytham Kenway. The whole estranged father-son dynamic is done really well especially considering both men's respective relationships with Achilles and Charles Lee. Both are reasonable men and want to reach out to each other to try to get them to their side, but in the end their convictions leave them with no choice but to try to kill each other. It's tragic and meaningful, and it's one of the reasons I like AC3 in spite of it's awful gameplay.

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When the hell did Sora and Xehanort interact with each other?

 

I really like a lot of the relationships and interactions in the Assassin's Creed series, but the one that stands out a lot to me is Connor and Haytham Kenway. The whole estranged father-son dynamic is done really well especially considering both men's respective relationships with Achilles and Charles Lee. Both are reasonable men and want to reach out to each other to try to get them to their side, but in the end their convictions leave them with no choice but to try to kill each other. It's tragic and meaningful, and it's one of the reasons I like AC3 in spite of it's awful gameplay.

I don't think that but some people might end up having that opinion xD. Anything is possible!

The One Ring vs. Everyone

 

Sauron is a unique villain in that he never really physically appears during The Lord of the Rings (the Eye doesn't count; it's what's left of his spirit still clinging to the world), but his presence and his true power is always present and felt in the embodiment of the One Ring. Because despite being one step below Valar and having tremendous physical strength when in one piece, Sauron's true power always was in subtlety, lies, and deceit. He took down the entire kingdom of Numenor with some well chosen words and got them to impale themselves on their own hubris. He's willing to play the slow game, and it's that gradual corrosion and corruption that Frodo holds around his neck. What's interesting with the Ring is how is plays against different people it comes into contact with. It manages to cheat destruction by appealing to Isildur's pride, convincing him that the Ring is a trophy worthy of his house, and fitting compensation for losing his father and brother in battle. With Gollum, it basically gives him a false sense of power and confidence to embrace the mischief and whatever inner meanness he might have possessed, unwittingly tricking him into using it too much until his village and Grandmother are forced to kick him out, which only serves to make him more self pitying and alone. With Boromir, it presents itself as a solution to the constant struggle that his father and Gondor are facing, promising false power to beat back the tides. With everyone the Ring meets, it is able to play on their unique and individual weaknesses with such subtlety that they don't even know they are being played. 

 

The Hobbits, though, are probably the most interesting, for they don't have necessarily the same folly of pride or ambition as Men or Elves might. So the Ring's options are left to just making them more and more attached to it over time, like an addiction that they don't even know they're falling for. But while Bilbo possesses it for a long period of time, it's still important that he's the only one who's able to willingly give up the Ring, and he does it out of trust in Gandalf, which is a testament to the strength of Hobbit willpower. Unfortunately for Frodo, he's not so lucky, as the Ring amps up all of its power in a last ditch attempt to avoid being destroyed, and turns Frodo into a half mad junkie. The closer they get to Mordor, the more Frodo falls under its spell until the Ring is all that occupies his mind. Even after the Ring is destroyed, Frodo is still in withdrawal, and half of the reason he winds up leaving for Valinor is because his mind and body are completely wrecked by what the Ring put him through. But the best interaction, I think, is with Sam, and the short time he picks up the Ring after Frodo is taken to Cirith Ungol. In the book, it shows how the Ring immediately presents Sam with a vision of breaking into Mordor, toppling the towers of Barad-dur, saving his beloved master, and replacing the ashen plains of Mordor with a field of flowers. What's important here is that the Ring appeals to Sam in the only way that Sauron understands power, through domination and subjugation, taking what you want and ignoring the consequences in order to get it. But even with this presented before him, Sam is able to realize that this isn't what he wants at all, and that all he really wants is one simple garden and a simple life. It's kind of a great moment in which this gardener is able to turn down the power that tempted the King of Gondor because he knows what truly matters, and its a kind of simple contentment that the Ring cannot understand.

Splinter & The Shredder from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, specifically the first 90s film and '03 cartoon incarnations.

 

Specifically drawing on the backstory of these two properties, where Splinter was a pet rat of a martial arts master named Hamato Yoshi who was murdered by Oroku Saki out of spite and/or jealousy, these two were set up as the biggest polar opposites of good and evil for the main turtle team: Splinter plays the role of the wise mentor who wants nothing more than to avenge the death of his master and preserve the values of honor and discipline that were taught to him and then later passed down to his four sons, while The Shredder is the ultimate bastion of hate and anger who seeks nothing more than to annihilate everyone in his path for the sake of making himself stronger. These two couldn't be anymore different nor share a larger amount of animosity for one another for everything that they stand for, and although their interactions with one another are mostly brief throughout the various incarnations where they've been allowed to do so, it makes it all the more memorable when you see them clash physically instead of just morally. It really is like watching a battle between two esteemed martial arts masters, because that's exactly what they are.

For me, it would have to be Anakin and Obi-Wan!

 

The thing is, ever since Qui Gon entrusted Obi-Wan to mentor Anakin, Kenobi and Skywalker formed a bond that would prove to turn into a long lasting friendship! They trained together, they fought battles together, they put their trust in each other! But, as the end of the Clone Wars neared, and Anakin feared for the life of Padme and his unborn child, he slowly started to stray from the path of the Jedi. He had already been tempted many times by his raw emotions, but it wasn't until Palpatine offered him true power that Anakin started to snap. Even with Obi-Wan as his trusted friend, Anakin just couldn't resist the Dark Side. He thought it was the only way he could grow stronger in order to save the people he loved! But in the end, he was conned, and yet he was blind to this until much later on in his life as Darth Vader!

 

Obi-Wan didn't want to believe that Anakin had turned to the Dark Side. No, not his apprentice, not the person he'd raised, whom he treated like a brother, a son, even! Obi-Wan just couldn't bring himself to believe that this reality was happening! When the two finally clashed on Mustafar, their ideals clashed! Anakin thought the only way to save the people he loved and bring peace to the galaxy was by way of power, while Obi-Wan, whom wanted to bring Anakin back into the light, sided with Democracy. He didn't believe in tyranny, in the workings of Chancellor Palpatine, and he didn't believe in the Dark Side.  And so, two best friends, two brothers, clashed...and nothing was ever the same!

 

That's quite a tragic protagonist/antagonist relationship when you think about it! :')

Dunban and Metal Face from Xenoblade.

 

 

The realization that the Mechin that had taken Dunban's sister from him and killed so many of the people in his home colony was being controlled by his old war buddy who he thought was long dead made Mumkhar's reveal huge. Their interactions past this point were great and showed their clashing ideals.

 

 

Then there's Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader. Both of their duels were intense, emotional, and surprising.

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