In a galaxy far far away....there's a wizard duck, dog knight and a lil kid with a key as a weapon. Shit's nuts ya'll.

I'd rather not, having a Star Wars world will completely undersell all the other animated worlds in the game.

 

>sees that the 'No Star Wars' option has the majority of votes

 

Y'all a bunch of killjoys, man. 

 

It's nothing to do with that, it's just that Star Wars lore is too complex to be integrated into Kingdom Hearts lore.

Edited April 23, 20178 yr by Guest

People saying Star Wars would be weird but we have Deep Space in BBS, and The Grid and Country of Musketeers in DDD and those are not weird... HOW. (Don't get me wrong, I love all of these worlds, but it feels weird having Deep Space instead of Hawai, a technological live-action movie whose objective is to get to the real world (and yet it is still an old version of the world we see in KH2), and a world with a different version of Mickey, Donald and Goofy). Also, we have a game that takes place in a fairytale and is a dream, yet it isn't because reasons... And a second version of this fairytale in a different dimension... (BTW, both fairytales have different versions of MDG too LOL) I really think Star Wars would fit incredibly well in Kingdom Hearts. Hell, Nomura and the staff should talk to Disney and let them have a go. Would be really good to see Sora vs Luke/Rey/Vader/Kylo/Solo/Chewbacca/Leia/Anakin/Obi-Wan/Drievous/Dooku/Palpatine/Windu/Maul/Finn/Poe... Just got hyped for an unknown reson LMAO

It's nothing to do with that, it's just that Star Wars lore is too complex to be integrated into Kingdom Hearts lore.

What? Star Wars too complicated for Kingdom Hearts? It's the other way around mate LMFAO.

What? Star Wars too complicated for Kingdom Hearts? It's the other way around mate LMFAO.

 

Star Wars has a heavily pre-established lore. Put Star Wars in Kingdom Hearts and it'll be heavily watered-down variation of Star Wars (regardless of whatever iteration you use). Plus, you'd have to mix Kingdom Hearts lore with Star Wars lore and that's a headache I do not want to suffer with.

 

If you're going to add a Live Action world, just let it be from Walt Disney Studios. Marvel and Lucasfilm have worlds that just wouldn't mesh well from a narrative standpoint.

Hard to say. I could see them working well with either Ep I, IV, or VII, but starting with Episode IV will probably sit a lot better with most people. I do think Star Wars could work, it all just depends on how they go about it. A boss battle against Darth Vader would be epic, like you have to hold him off until Obi Wan/Ben can take over or something. Or maybe even a Keyblade Glider/Gummi battle against a Tie-Fighter themed Heartless while Luke tries to blow up the Death Star. There's a lot of cool scenarios you can do, so it'd be nice to see if they're willing to do it and write a decent scenario around it as well.

Star Wars has a heavily pre-established lore. Put Star Wars in Kingdom Hearts and it'll be heavily watered-down variation of Star Wars (regardless of whatever iteration you use). Plus, you'd have to mix Kingdom Hearts lore with Star Wars lore and that's a headache I do not want to suffer with.

 

If you're going to add a Live Action world, just let it be from Walt Disney Studios. Marvel and Lucasfilm have worlds that just wouldn't mesh well from a narrative standpoint.

EVERY movie featured in these games is a heavily watered down version, I think we need to quit running to that as an excuse as to why some things should never be touched upon,  that's like favoring one series over another. Tron's lore had to be heavily watered down to make it digestible for the KH format, and yet people seemed to like it just fine. I get that Star Wars is sacred to a lot of people, it's lore is much more complex and stretches back and around a lot more than most given examples, and that they think that lore should never be messed with, but the fact is that the series is no stranger to adjusting things into it's own format in a way that works for it's given scenario. It won't be the whole film you want to see, if you want that, just pop it in your dvd player and call it a day, but it isn't really supposed to be that anyway. Quite honestly, Star Wars would be much easier to adapt into a KH narrative than any live action Marvel film or any other Lucasfilm franchise. I know people don't want their "baby" to be touched, but I honestly have enough faith in the KH team to come up with a scenario that suits both KH and Star Wars decently enough. It won't be perfect, but I'm not asking for it to be, and I'm not willing to be over-protective over a franchise I like if it means that nothing interesting can ever be done with it, especially when it has the chance to be enjoyable. Otherwise, VII probably wouldn't have ever happened if we stuck with this mentality.

None of them. I don't think they should go together.

I second this. The two should remain separate.

It's nothing to do with that, it's just that Star Wars lore is too complex to be integrated into Kingdom Hearts lore.

Not really. They could easily slot in TFA or even one of the cartoons without too much trouble. Just don't go into detail on the lore of everything.

Hard to say. I could see them working well with either Ep I, IV, or VII, but starting with Episode IV will probably sit a lot better with most people. I do think Star Wars could work, it all just depends on how they go about it. A boss battle against Darth Vader would be epic, like you have to hold him off until Obi Wan/Ben can take over or something. Or maybe even a Keyblade Glider/Gummi battle against a Tie-Fighter themed Heartless while Luke tries to blow up the Death Star. There's a lot of cool scenarios you can do, so it'd be nice to see if they're willing to do it and write a decent scenario around it as well.

EVERY movie featured in these games is a heavily watered down version, I think we need to quit running to that as an excuse as to why some things should never be touched upon,  that's like favoring one series over another. Tron's lore had to be heavily watered down to make it digestible for the KH format, and yet people seemed to like it just fine. I get that Star Wars is sacred to a lot of people, it's lore is much more complex and stretches back and around a lot more than most given examples, and that they think that lore should never be messed with, but the fact is that the series is no stranger to adjusting things into it's own format in a way that works for it's given scenario. It won't be the whole film you want to see, if you want that, just pop it in your dvd player and call it a day, but it isn't really supposed to be that anyway. Quite honestly, Star Wars would be much easier to adapt into a KH narrative than any live action Marvel film or any other Lucasfilm franchise. I know people don't want their "baby" to be touched, but I honestly have enough faith in the KH team to come up with a scenario that suits both KH and Star Wars decently enough. It won't be perfect, but I'm not asking for it to be, and I'm not willing to be over-protective over a franchise I like if it means that nothing interesting can ever be done with it, especially when it has the chance to be enjoyable. Otherwise, VII probably wouldn't have ever happened if we stuck with this mentality.

 

Let's be real here, the lore of Tron isn't that widely known or cared about for that matter. The lore of Star Wars on the other hand is a whole different beast on its own with a dedicated following. You're comparing Apple's and Oranges here. Episode VII only happened in the first place because Disney acquired the rights to the Star Wars franchise, and George Lucas was not going to make another Star Wars movie any more.

 

Not really. They could easily slot in TFA or even one of the cartoons without too much trouble. Just don't go into detail on the lore of everything.

 

The cartoons aren't really feature films, and adding The Force Awakens seems awkward. Every world featured starts with its origin movie, why would Star Wars be any different? 

Let's be real here, the lore of Tron isn't that widely known or cared about for that matter. The lore of Star Wars on the other hand is a whole different beast on its own with a dedicated following. You're comparing Apple's and Oranges here. Episode VII only happened in the first place because Disney acquired the rights to the Star Wars franchise, and George Lucas was not going to make another Star Wars movie any more.

 

 

The cartoons aren't really feature films, and adding The Force Awakens seems awkward. Every world featured starts with its origin movie, why would Star Wars be any different? 

I'm not comparing the quality or breadth of how widely known the lore between those two franchises are, I'm just using it as an example of how little of the full original context and lore from the original film you technically "need" in order to make a KH scenario work. If you just really don't want to see the story being messed with in that kind of way, I get it, but I really do think that if the KH team really wanted to do it, they would come up with a scenario that, while not hitting all the marks, would still do a decent job formatting the essential parts of Star Wars' story in a way that compliments KH.

Let's be real here, the lore of Tron isn't that widely known or cared about for that matter. The lore of Star Wars on the other hand is a whole different beast on its own with a dedicated following. You're comparing Apple's and Oranges here. Episode VII only happened in the first place because Disney acquired the rights to the Star Wars franchise, and George Lucas was not going to make another Star Wars movie any more.

 

 

 

The cartoons aren't really feature films, and adding The Force Awakens seems awkward. Every world featured starts with its origin movie, why would Star Wars be any different?

 

yes, Tron doesn't have as many fans as Star Wars but so what? TWEWY didn't have as many fans as Final Fantasy yet they included characters in DDD. Come on let's be honest here. The whole Kingdom Hearts series is a bunch of cool fan-fiction crossovers, a bit more into the mix wouldn't hurt anyone. It won't ve canon to the original movies in any case, and I think they have done a good job in making each movies' plot into the series' storyline. They should give it a try.

I'm not comparing the quality or breadth of how widely known the lore between those two franchises are, I'm just using it as an example of how little of the full original context and lore from the original film you technically "need" in order to make a KH scenario work. If you just really don't want to see the story being messed with in that kind of way, I get it, but I really do think that if the KH team really wanted to do it, they would come up with a scenario that, while not hitting all the marks, would still do a decent job formatting the essential parts of Star Wars' story in a way that compliments KH.

 

Put too much Star Wars in Kingdom Hearts, you undermine the importance of the other Disney Worlds featured, if you don't utilise Star Wars well enough, people will be vocal about the representation and complain about how it played second fiddle. Star Wars is just too large for its own good to be relegated into a singular world for Kingdom Hearts III, and making any compromises for it would be more of a detriment than good.

 

 

yes, Tron doesn't have as many fans as Star Wars but so what? TWEWY didn't have as many fans as Final Fantasy yet they included characters in DDD. Come on let's be honest here. The whole Kingdom Hearts series is a bunch of cool fan-fiction crossovers, a bit more into the mix wouldn't hurt anyone. It won't ve canon to the original movies in any case, and I think they have done a good job in making each movies' plot into the series' storyline. They should give it a try.

 

TWEWY was primarily added for two reasons. Firstly, Dream Drop Distance was a Nintendo 3DS title, TWEWY was a Nintendo DS title. Both games were for a Nintendo system so the inclusion felt far more natural. Secondly, TWEWY is a title directed by Tetsuya Nomura, just like Kingdom Hearts. Because of this, it was easier for him to add said characters into the game than any other Square Enix characters.

 

Just to stress, I'm not against Star Wars being in Kingdom Hearts, I'm just against it being in Kingdom Hearts III. The Keyblade War should be the primary focus of that and the worlds that Sora, Donald and Goofy should be complimentary to that over-arching plot. 

Edited April 24, 20178 yr by Guest

Put too much Star Wars in Kingdom Hearts, you undermine the importance of the other Disney Worlds featured, if you don't utilise Star Wars well enough, people will be vocal about the representation and complain about how it played second fiddle. Star Wars is just too large for its own good to be relegated into a singular world for Kingdom Hearts III, and making any compromises for it would be more of a detriment than good.

 

 

 

 

TWEWY was primarily added for two reasons. Firstly, Dream Drop Distance was a Nintendo 3DS title, TWEWY was a Nintendo DS title. Both games were for a Nintendo system so the inclusion felt far more natural. Secondly, TWEWY is a title directed by Tetsuya Nomura, just like Kingdom Hearts. Because of this, it was easier for him to add said characters into the game than any other Square Enix characters.

 

Just to stress, I'm not against Star Wars being in Kingdom Hearts, I'm just against it being in Kingdom Hearts III. The Keyblade War should be the primary focus of that and the worlds that Sora, Donald and Goofy should be complimentary to that over-arching plot.

 

I never mentioned KH3... lol I actually don't care about Star Wars or Marvel being in KH3 or not(although they could be HUGE marketing points for the game). I just want them to crossover into the series. BTW, if the worlds are just complementary, wouldn't it just be filler, like most of them have already been throughout the series? And KH has always been loyal to the original movie plots, so I would like them to give it a go asap (they could add them to UX )

As for TWEWY... With your reasoning, I could argue that Sora should be in Smash Bros, it feels natural, but... It's just that TWEWY characters fitted the plot, that's all. If they do the same with Star Wars, why wouldn't people like it?

Edited April 24, 20178 yr by neil98

As for TWEWY... With your reasoning, I could argue that Sora should be in Smash Bros, it feels natural, but... It's just that TWEWY characters fitted the plot, that's all. If they do the same with Star Wars, why wouldn't people like it?

 

Except that Tetsuya Nomura never directed Smash Bros, that was Masahiro Sakurai, so that's not the best counter-argument.

Except that Tetsuya Nomura never directed Smash Bros, that was Masahiro Sakurai, so that's not the best counter-argument.

and Nomura didn't direct TWEWY either lol. He made the characters and helped with the story as a creative director, but he didn't direct the game. Also, Cloud is in Smash, and Nomura helped with his design and made an artwork to commemorate this. Again, Sora just feels natural in Smash. Just like Marvel and Star Wars in any Kingdom Hearts title. The question that remains is: When?

Edited April 25, 20178 yr by neil98

Put too much Star Wars in Kingdom Hearts, you undermine the importance of the other Disney Worlds featured, if you don't utilise Star Wars well enough, people will be vocal about the representation and complain about how it played second fiddle. Star Wars is just too large for its own good to be relegated into a singular world for Kingdom Hearts III, and making any compromises for it would be more of a detriment than good.

 

 

 

TWEWY was primarily added for two reasons. Firstly, Dream Drop Distance was a Nintendo 3DS title, TWEWY was a Nintendo DS title. Both games were for a Nintendo system so the inclusion felt far more natural. Secondly, TWEWY is a title directed by Tetsuya Nomura, just like Kingdom Hearts. Because of this, it was easier for him to add said characters into the game than any other Square Enix characters.

 

Just to stress, I'm not against Star Wars being in Kingdom Hearts, I'm just against it being in Kingdom Hearts III. The Keyblade War should be the primary focus of that and the worlds that Sora, Donald and Goofy should be complimentary to that over-arching plot. 

I fail to see how Tangled ties into the over-arching plot of the Keyblade War, but whatever, too soon to say I guess. But I'd say that says nothing about whether it would fit for KH3 or not, if anything it would be THE game to feature it in. I think more hard core fans would forgive whatever capacity it is included if it's on a fully fledged title like this as opposed to another handheld spinoff, if they do end up doing those again anyway.

 

Either way that fan base is going to whine no matter what, heck they complained about a spinoff movie not having the title scroll in the opening, so I'm not exactly that concerned about their reaction if Star Wars gets treated the same as any other world and isn't the center of the whole freaking game, I'm already aware that they're pretty set on hating the idea even if it is good.

 

Besides, Ep. IV seems to support the overall plot well enough anyway. I mean a rebel alliance against an evil all-encompassing empire that is fueled by the dark side of the Force, a few good guys challenging the odds placed against them by an overwhelming number of bad guys who have almost every advantage over them in terms of numbers, strength, and information? I fail to see how this DOESN'T compliment the overall narrative, if anything it should at the very least give Sora and the others a sense of hope (a NEW hope perhaps, ha) that even if they are outnumbered and outmatched, they still have a chance.

I fail to see how Tangled ties into the over-arching plot of the Keyblade War, but whatever, too soon to say I guess. 

 

 

The Dandelion scene. The dual symbolism writes itself there. Sure, it's a short segment in the movie, but it can still tie up to the narrative of the Keyblade War.

Edited April 26, 20178 yr by Guest

 

The Dandelion scene. The dual symbolism writes itself there. Sure, it's a short segment in the movie, but it can still tie up to the narrative of the Keyblade War.

.........that's really stretching for an obscure reference. At least my example is more direct. I don't doubt that it could be used for that, but that hardly makes it more "useful" than a potential Star Wars inclusion. Like I don't see where you wouldn't have room to both do that AND use the Rebellion as source of insight for the heroes.

Star Wars in Kingdom Hearts? ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!