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but he's awesome

Super 17 was awful as an arc

i wish they would introduce SSJ4 to Super and get rid of Blue

thank god GT is non canon even though it could be made canon due to the multiple universes concept in Super

His design and chracter are fine tho @teh lazy prince Xylek I'll give you that

and goku does kamehame times 10

i like that one

Blue is better than ss4

ew, Blue is silly

SS4 actually looks like a power up

atleast SSJ4 had some effort into design

super saiyan god super saiyan has the name going for it tho

its too late for ss4 because mui is better

who says?

SSJ4 isnt canon

well

limit breaker goku is best goku

for now it is

SS4 is unique, aesthetically and goes off of the ape form more.

Super is still before End of Z

actually

theres a recton on that

SSB just seems like they color his hair blue instead of yellow for SS.

where?

Super started 6 months after Buu was defeated

I'm sure the power is different, but the appearance doesn't stick out from regular SS.

bulma didnt see him for 5 years as stated in EoZ after the buu saga and yet he didnt disappear

and Uub was brought up in ToP arc