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Otti.

Like I can kind of overlook KH3 with what it did, it was a herculean (?) task after all the side games and stuff

But they can't make the same mistake with 4

KH2 is my first game like basically ever in the series you can’t knock me for playing favorites

This one actually needs to be good and coherent

You said you LIKED 3, Otti.

I do

I like it more than most people

Then what the firetruck does "actually needs to be good" supposed to mean

I get what Ottis saying, kh4 needs to improve on the points that kh3 was weakest in

Arthur no, you DON'T like 3

Otti said he does.

Not true I think kh3 is a fine game

Let Otti explain lol

Just not my favorite kh game, which dissapointed me

I really want to discuss this but I am also working right now but to keep it short, KH3 still has faults despite how much I like it. I like the worlds in KH3, I like the combat even before the Remind changes, I like the characters but the one thing it was faulting in was the story. Like I said, it was a big task after all the side games and everything to tie it up together. I absolutely think they could have done better but I see where they were going with it. But this game was more busy trying to set up the next thing with the mystery box that still hasn't been solved and by giving a very not-so-satisfying end to a story with Sora.

I can like something while also disagree with what things it did

I like FF15 more than 16 but I am not going to say its a better game because that game is a giant mess. I just had more fun with the game. It's the same here.

wow crazy concept I never thought of that before

eh, good points

You are the one who had this reaction to me

3 definitely needed some time before it sat ok in my stomach

That’s where kh3 sits with me

It’s a good game, but I do have things I don’t like about it

When I hear someone say "KH4 needs to be actually good", it feels like a negative

Well, and overwhelming negative i mean

Like good in terms of story is what Otti was saying which I agree

It is a brand new saga, so there will be pressure

But, judging with Nomura's excitement for the new arc and the fact that TWEWY writers are also in on it,

I think it'll be a blast story-wise

Maybe im a bad fan or dumb for thinking this but, I just trust Nomura to deliver

Trust me, 3 soured me for a long time but not enough to kick me out the franchise.

But its not like ALL of 3, it was mostly just the ending

I have a love/hate relationship with that man

Hahahah

Dude has some fun ideas I like but then does the most bizarre shit next

Thats what makes him a true artist

I would rather he did that than play it safe, conventional and boring.

Lot of KH fans are cowards.

They want Kingdom Hearts to fall in line with convention so they dont feel embarrassed talking about it to their family and friends.

But KH is like "nah firetruck you, existentialism one moment, then Winnie the Pooh the next."

Its great