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If this is considered indie then so is Death Stranding

this whole thing is such a mess that it feels engineered; 33's existence has been utilized to fuel JRPG/turn based discourse, and used as a "gotcha" against Square, and NOW if it wins GOTY its gonna be seen as a "win" for Indie Games and an L for the eeeeeeevil AAA game$

Its so stupid

I don't really care about all that

But if you are going to categorize these, there needs to be some hard rules and not just going by "vibes"

they were just smart and very lucky

you should I think-- we can pretend this stupid discourse doesnt affect our environments but it does, and it will

meanwhile the e33 devs "I love final fantasy, dragon quest and the last remnant"

apathetical ambivalence wont do anyone any good....

apathetical ambivalence wont do anyone any good....

blame the fandom not the game or devs

Sorry but all this is just fandom wars and bullshit, I don't really think it will matter at all either way

Lol remember when people were saying E33 had 33 devs?

Like liftea said the devs have the utmost respect for all that so it doesn't matter

It would be another thing if they had discontempt for them, but that's not the case

I want sandfall be based. I want their next game to be an action game

Yeah as if we lack action games

make a sekiro like game

or a kh like

no one has done KH like and its crazy

theres like one I can probably say it is but yeah

Which one

I am struggling to think of one

its an indie called geno kids

What about that one new one where the kids sword is a clock?