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I was thinking with my friend about him then we got this theory :

What if MF was someone from the future (kh1 , days ,coded , kh2 ) ,two things prove that he came from the future :

1- He use back in time in like half sec (when u fight him ) but he can use it for more (going into the past)

2-He wears organization coat and the organization does not exist

and why he fight TVA ? because he saw what Terra have done in the past (getting to darkness ,turning to xehanort , seperate into Xemnas and Ansem SOD ...) so he decide to go through the past to fix what happened by killing Terra , why fighting Ven and Aqua ? because he thought that these 2 might be helping Terra so he tried to kill them too .

He use some organization moves :

1-Fire (Axel)

2-Wind (Xaldin)

3-Wind that take ur deck (Marluxia's final battle)

4-balls that hit u by his laser sword (the attack is like Xaldin and Xigbar at the same time )

5-clones (Larxene and Xemnas )

6-death time attack (Marluxia )

7-high jump (Saix)

8-attacks that when it hit u once u can't run away from it (Xemnas)

9-meteor or a rock (Lexeuase and Zexion)

Who is left (Demyx , Luxord , Vexen , Roxas )

He must be somone who saw what heppened in the past and he should be someone didn't see these 4 who left from the organization or maybe he didn't show all his moves , he came specially to land of departure because he knew that Terra live there .

What do u think about my theory guys :D

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1. It's hinted that he could possibly be a time traveler.

 

2.Just because he wears an Organization coat doesn't mean anything. Just look at AtW and MX. And I really don't think that fight is actually canon to the story. it was just something extra for us to have while waiting for BBS. But the MF himself is canon to the series.

 

3.I don't think that just because he has moves similiar to the Organization doesn't mean he is any way related to the Organization or even knew about them.

Proof he is related to the Organization:

 

1. The attacks obviously

2.

he tip of No Name appears to be a stopwatch, while the teeth are diamond shape spikes that are connected by a black web structure similar to the design on the base of the top spire of Memory's Skyscraper. The Keychain shares the time theme represented in the blade, as the charm on the Keychain appears to be an hourglass. The shaft of No Name resembles the weapons used by the Unknown, and the blade features an ever-present glow.

The combination of light and dark colors seem to bear a resemblance to certain designs of Organization XIII. This makes sense as "Unknown" has some similarities to the members. Another hint to the connection of Organization XIII is that the sum of both the magic and strength boost equal 13 (6+7). Additionally, the hands of the stopwatch seem to point to the time 8:05; when these three numbers are added together, the sum is 13.

 

-KH Wiki

Proof he is related to the Organization:

 

1. The attacks obviously

2.

he tip of No Name appears to be a stopwatch, while the teeth are diamond shape spikes that are connected by a black web structure similar to the design on the base of the top spire of Memory's Skyscraper. The Keychain shares the time theme represented in the blade, as the charm on the Keychain appears to be an hourglass. The shaft of No Name resembles the weapons used by the Unknown, and the blade features an ever-present glow.

The combination of light and dark colors seem to bear a resemblance to certain designs of Organization XIII. This makes sense as "Unknown" has some similarities to the members. Another hint to the connection of Organization XIII is that the sum of both the magic and strength boost equal 13 (6+7). Additionally, the hands of the stopwatch seem to point to the time 8:05; when these three numbers are added together, the sum is 13.

 

-KH Wiki

None of that doesn't even prove that MF is with the Organization. It's just giving you details and pointing out things about MF.

Oh so all the numbers adding up to 13 isn't a hint. Right.

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Guys I was talking about that he saw them and learned thier attacks not beeing with them on the organization

Oh so all the numbers adding up to 13 isn't a hint. Right.

 

KHWiki has been known to be wrong. But I agree. There are relations between the two, but nothing has been set in stone. All of this is speculation.

 

@KingdomHearts12, you really shouldn't shoot down someone's theories for not haveing evidence, if you don't have any either. It even says "super theory" as the title.

 

Oh so all the numbers adding up to 13 isn't a hint. Right.

 

KHWiki has been known to be wrong. But I agree. There are relations between the two, but nothing has been set in stone. All of this is speculation.

 

@KingdomHearts12, you really shouldn't shoot down someone's theories for not haveing evidence, if you don't have any either. It even says "super theory" as the title.

 

Really? Well sorry about that then. i'm not trying to shut anybody down because of having no proof of the theories. But I kinda see what ya mean. I'm really sorry about it, I can be kinda harsh sometimes.

You don't have to be an Organization XIII member to wear the black cloak. Doesn't it protect you from the darkness or something? I mean, just look at Riku and King Mickey in Days.

You don't have to be an Organization XIII member to wear the black cloak. Doesn't it protect you from the darkness or something? I mean, just look at Riku and King Mickey in Days.

 

Yes, it does.

Hes a time travel travelling master of time who walks in eternity and he knows the ways of the Force.

 

Its just wat i've been saying all along HES A TIME LORD JEDI KNIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

side note i think MF found a time pad at castle oblivion/land of depature found the cloak lying around( possible because riku & mikey got some) and was heading towards the tower and to the exact room where ventus's body was to be placed. this allows him to find Ven easily.

1- He use back in time in like half sec (when u fight him ) but he can use it for more (going into the past)

2-He wears organization coat and the organization does not exist

and why he fight TVA ? because he saw what Terra have done in the past (getting to darkness ,turning to xehanort , seperate into Xemnas and Ansem SOD ...) so he decide to go through the past to fix what happened by killing Terra , why fighting Ven and Aqua ? because he thought that these 2 might be helping Terra so he tried to kill them too .

He use some organization moves :

1-Fire (Axel) and TAV

2-Wind (Xaldin) Where did you get wind

3-Wind that take ur deck (Marluxia's final battle) What about Ventus tornado attack sped up.

4-balls that hit u by his laser sword (the attack is like Xaldin and Xigbar at the same time )

5-clones (Larxene and Xemnas ) Or another extension of his time traveling abilities

6-death time attack (Marluxia ) It's called doom, one of terra's attacks have this effect

7-high jump (Saix) and Sora and *names almost all playable characters*

8-attacks that when it hit u once u can't run away from it (Xemnas) Yes, but it being xehanort related you know

9-meteor or a rock (Lexeuase and Zexion) hardly, Terra and Terranort can cast meteor also

Who is left (Demyx , Luxord , Vexen , Roxas ) Because they like every other member are not related.

He must be somone who saw what heppened in the past and he should be someone didn't see these 4 who left from the organization or maybe he didn't show all his moves. The second is far more likely for your case.

he came specially to land of departure because he knew that Terra live there .

What do u think about my theory guys :D The smiley face makes me feel bad critizizing so harshly.

 

My responses in bold.

 

In the case of manipulating elements of organization xiii

I'm thinking that MF is Ansem the Wise. It would account for similarity to Organization XIII. We have never seen Ansem in battle. He tried to go back in time to fix all the problems that has happen, but fails.

I'm thinking that MF is Ansem the Wise. It would account for similarity to Organization XIII. We have never seen Ansem in battle. He tried to go back in time to fix all the problems that has happen, but fails.

 

I think Ansem's smart enough to know that going back in time and screwing around with the timestream usually has terrible results for the future. And now I pose the same question I ask every time; if it was Ansem, if he had all these powers, why didn't he take care of his problems himself instead of waiting around for almost a year for Sora and co. to do it for him? >.<

Besides, since when can Ansem the Wise flip into the air like he's 20 years old, and since when does he have the powers of the X-Blade?

 

If Ansem the Wise COULD travel back into time, he would've done it years ago, and could've stopped Xehanort.

Proof he is related to the Organization:

 

1. The attacks obviously

2.

he tip of No Name appears to be a stopwatch, while the teeth are diamond shape spikes that are connected by a black web structure similar to the design on the base of the top spire of Memory's Skyscraper. The Keychain shares the time theme represented in the blade, as the charm on the Keychain appears to be an hourglass. The shaft of No Name resembles the weapons used by the Unknown, and the blade features an ever-present glow.

The combination of light and dark colors seem to bear a resemblance to certain designs of Organization XIII. This makes sense as "Unknown" has some similarities to the members. Another hint to the connection of Organization XIII is that the sum of both the magic and strength boost equal 13 (6+7). Additionally, the hands of the stopwatch seem to point to the time 8:05; when these three numbers are added together, the sum is 13.

 

-KH Wiki

sweet "proof" Anybody can type in Wiki also anyone can come up with these things. Over analyzing is cancer.

 

Proof he is related to the Organization:

 

1. The attacks obviously

2.

he tip of No Name appears to be a stopwatch, while the teeth are diamond shape spikes that are connected by a black web structure similar to the design on the base of the top spire of Memory's Skyscraper. The Keychain shares the time theme represented in the blade, as the charm on the Keychain appears to be an hourglass. The shaft of No Name resembles the weapons used by the Unknown, and the blade features an ever-present glow.

The combination of light and dark colors seem to bear a resemblance to certain designs of Organization XIII. This makes sense as "Unknown" has some similarities to the members. Another hint to the connection of Organization XIII is that the sum of both the magic and strength boost equal 13 (6+7). Additionally, the hands of the stopwatch seem to point to the time 8:05; when these three numbers are added together, the sum is 13.

 

-KH Wiki

sweet "proof" Anybody can type in Wiki also anyone can come up with these things. Over analyzing is cancer.

 

It's legit, because I researched this myself. Even if it is what you classify as over-analyzing, it still is fact. Just little facts to point to the obvious big picture. I still don't see why people are still being narrow minded about this when all the facts point towards MF being Org. XIII related.

1- He use back in time in like half sec (when u fight him ) but he can use it for more (going into the past)

2-He wears organization coat and the organization does not exist

and why he fight TVA ? because he saw what Terra have done in the past (getting to darkness ,turning to xehanort , seperate into Xemnas and Ansem SOD ...) so he decide to go through the past to fix what happened by killing Terra , why fighting Ven and Aqua ? because he thought that these 2 might be helping Terra so he tried to kill them too .

He use some organization moves :

1-Fire (Axel) and TAV

2-Wind (Xaldin) and ventus

3-Wind that take ur deck (Marluxia's final battle) What about Ventus tornado attack sped up with haste.

4-balls that hit u by his laser sword (the attack is like Xaldin and Xigbar and marluxia at the same time ) you win this one

5-clones (Larxene and Xemnas ) Or another extension of his time traveling abilities such as going back in time to where you already were and wala! there are two of you

6-death time attack (Marluxia ) It's called doom, one of terra's attacks have this effect

7-high jump (Saix) ...and Sora and *names almost all playable characters*

8-attacks that when it hit u once u can't run away from it (Xemnas) Yes, I suppose stating the obvious doesn't hurt

9-meteor or a rock (Lexeuase and Zexion) hardly, Terra and Terranort can cast meteor also

Who is left (Demyx , Luxord , Vexen , Roxas ) Because they like every other member are not related.

He must be someone who saw what happened in the past and he should be someone didn't see these 4 who left from the organization or maybe he didn't show all his moves. The second is far more likely for your case.

he came specially to land of departure because he knew that Terra live there .

What do u think about my theory guys :DThe smiley face makes me feel bad critizizing so harshly.

 

My responses in bold.

 

In the case of manipulating elements of organization xiii you could have at least mentioned Xemnas' armor manipulating all of their weapons. I am disgusted in you. (jk :)

Besides, since when can Ansem the Wise flip into the air like he's 20 years old, and since when does he have the powers of the X-Blade?

 

If Ansem the Wise COULD travel back into time, he would've done it years ago, and could've stopped Xehanort.

 

well xiggy is an old guy he even says so in kh2 actually he says: i am not ANY old coot

that will say he is old guy and he can hop flip hang upside down and kill me at the same time

Xigbar was a Nobody with powers. Ansem the Wise is an old man...with nothing.

It's legit, because I researched this myself. Even if it is what you classify as over-analyzing, it still is fact. Just little facts to point to the obvious big picture. I still don't see why people are still being narrow minded about this when all the facts point towards MF being Org. XIII related.

The picture is most certainly not obvious, nor is it the only one. If I were opposed to it, it'd be because MF being Org. related is just one possibility amidst many others, and with no official confirmation, or even a hint at that, we really have nothing to go by that says he does or doesn't. It's just jumping to conclusions really.

 

At this point, the only reason I say I agree to him being Org. related is because judging by how things are turning out, it'd be hard not to be.

Of course him being Org. related isn't the only option. It may be jumping to conclusions by saying that he is or isn't Org. related, but in my opinion when you see someone with the abilities from almost all of the Organization, a black cloak, and blades that look like Xemnas' blades, I think its obvious enough that the person is Org. related. Then again, that's just my opinion.

 

But as you said, we have no confirmation, so I can't say my opinion is right. It's just what I believe and what I stand by.

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1- He use back in time in like half sec (when u fight him ) but he can use it for more (going into the past)

2-He wears organization coat and the organization does not exist

and why he fight TVA ? because he saw what Terra have done in the past (getting to darkness ,turning to xehanort , seperate into Xemnas and Ansem SOD ...) so he decide to go through the past to fix what happened by killing Terra , why fighting Ven and Aqua ? because he thought that these 2 might be helping Terra so he tried to kill them too .

He use some organization moves :

1-Fire (Axel) and TAV

2-Wind (Xaldin) and ventus

3-Wind that take ur deck (Marluxia's final battle) What about Ventus tornado attack sped up with haste.

4-balls that hit u by his laser sword (the attack is like Xaldin and Xigbar and marluxia at the same time ) you win this one

5-clones (Larxene and Xemnas ) Or another extension of his time traveling abilities such as going back in time to where you already were and wala! there are two of you

6-death time attack (Marluxia ) It's called doom, one of terra's attacks have this effect

7-high jump (Saix) ...and Sora and *names almost all playable characters*

8-attacks that when it hit u once u can't run away from it (Xemnas) Yes, I suppose stating the obvious doesn't hurt

9-meteor or a rock (Lexeuase and Zexion) hardly, Terra and Terranort can cast meteor also

Who is left (Demyx , Luxord , Vexen , Roxas ) Because they like every other member are not related.

He must be someone who saw what happened in the past and he should be someone didn't see these 4 who left from the organization or maybe he didn't show all his moves. The second is far more likely for your case.

he came specially to land of departure because he knew that Terra live there .

What do u think about my theory guys :DThe smiley face makes me feel bad critizizing so harshly.

 

My responses in bold.

 

In the case of manipulating elements of organization xiii you could have at least mentioned Xemnas' armor manipulating all of their weapons. I am disgusted in you. (jk :)

 

Ur right in all that but I am here making the similarties between him and the org not the others

The thing about Ansem the Wise being too old, I point out Master Xehanort.

As for Ansem the Wise fighting ability, like I said we don't know how he fights.

As for him being smart enough not to mess with time, remember his conversion with Aqua.

 

In the end, this is just a theory on something that has little facts to it. We'll see what it turns out to be.

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