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Why was it bad that Orginization 13 got hearts?

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All orginization 13 wanted was hearts for them selves, is that so bad?

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That wasn't Xemnas goal. He wanted to use Kingdom hearts as a source of power. And he fooled every other Organization member with the story about the hearts.

They also destroyed the worlds' peace by sending heartless/nobodies to it.

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ur right about xemnas using Kingdom Hearts for power,but u dont know he was lieing for sure.

He got all of Xehanort's memories and remember what Xehanort wanted? Kingdom Hearts to recreate the Keyblade war. But instead of doing so, he wanted to take control over everything.

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He got all of Xehanort's memories and remember what Xehanort wanted? Kingdom Hearts to recreate the Keyblade war. But instead of doing so, he wanted to take control over everything.

 

I thought he had amnesia?

The nobody? No. He even knew about Aqua's armor being his ''friend'' and that Ven's body was inside Castle Oblivion.

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The nobody? No. He even knew about Aqua's armor begin his ''friend'' and that Ven's body was inside Castle Oblivion.

 

Oh yeah what about the heartless?

I'm not sure if he had Xehanort's memories. But his only goal was to destroy every world using the heartless and the darkness.

Although getting hearts wouldn't be so bad, Org XIII brought chaos upon worlds just to reach that goal and since Xemnas was going to use Kingdom Hearts to rule all worlds, they had to be stopped.

 

The nobody? No. He even knew about Aqua's armor begin his ''friend'' and that Ven's body was inside Castle Oblivion.

 

Oh yeah what about the heartless?

 

The heartless may have had Xehanort's memories, but his goal was twisted into bring everything into darkness.

 

As for why it was bad that Org XIII got their hearts back, the goal was not bad. Their methods were what was lacking. Plus Xemnas's master plan.

because they are BAD GUYS they all tried to take control of sora i hope u remember

The nobody? No. He even knew about Aqua's armor being his ''friend'' and that Ven's body was inside Castle Oblivion.

 

I think its because he started to remember things little by little but I dont think he remember everything otherwise he would use the Keyblade of Terra or MX to collect hearts

because they are BAD GUYS they all tried to take control of sora i hope u remember

 

Not all of them. Just Marluxia and Larxene had plans to take control of him.

 

Xemnas' plan was originally to use Roxas and Xion to gather hearts for him, but that didn't work out so well.

Plan B was to just let Sora take care of the heartless and, unknowingly, gather hearts for the Organization.

If u think of it WE HAVE SLAYED terra with the keyblade 2 times already i feel mean

All orginization 13 wanted was hearts for them selves, is that so bad?

 

well if thats what they wanted why didnt they just let sora kill them lol then they could go back to there original selves(if there heartless were killed of course)

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All orginization 13 wanted was hearts for them selves, is that so bad?

 

well if thats what they wanted why didnt they just let sora kill them lol then they could go back to there original selves(if there heartless were killed of course)

 

good piont but dont u think asking sora to kill heartless for them would be easier, i mean he was doing that already

 

well if thats what they wanted why didnt they just let sora kill them lol then they could go back to there original selves(if there heartless were killed of course)

 

They didn't know that would make them whole.

I'm sure they would have made him kill them if they knew.

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well if thats what they wanted why didnt they just let sora kill them lol then they could go back to there original selves(if there heartless were killed of course)

 

They didn't know that would make them whole.

I'm sure they would have made him kill them if they knew.

 

or they would have killed them selves. (like axel)

they just could of said : Hai Sora can you kill heartless for us? yeah we dont got hearts it would be very nice if you could comeplete kingdom hearts for us : D

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they just could of said : Hai Sora can you kill heartless for us? yeah we dont got hearts it would be very nice if you could comeplete kingdom hearts for us : D

 

:Dlol

Okay, I'm going to make a big list of XIII sins, hopefully this will help dull the blade that is blind Organization fan-lust.

 

Xemnas- Tried to kill Sora. Wanted to manipulate Sora. Betrayed Ansem the Wise. Sent Nobodies and heartless to other worlds. Manipulates Roxas and Xion.

Xigbar- Helped Xehanort in the past. Tried to kill Sora. Betrayed Ansem the wise. Messes with Roxas and Xion (Tries to kill, etc.)

Xaldin- Tried to kill Sora. Steals Beasts Rose, and Belle. Betrayed Ansem the Wise.

Vexen- Tried to kill Sora and Riku. Destroyed the life of Repliku. Twice, once literally, once figuratively. Betrayed Ansem the Wise. Tries to betray the Organization

Lexaeus- Tried to kill Riku, and lure him to the dark side. Betrayed Ansem the Wise. That's about it really. He didn't get much screen time. It was kinda mean when he hit Roxas I suppose.

Zexion- Tried to kill Riku, and lure him to the dark side. Betrayed Ansem the Wise, who was like a FATHER to him.

Saix- Tried to kill Sora, Roxas and Xion. Tried to betray the Organization. Every interaction with Roxas in Days. Every interaction with Sora in KH2. Tries to get Roxas and Xion to kill each other. Kidnaps Kairi.

Axel- Tried to kill Sora, Xion, Roxas and Marluxia. Successfully killed Vexen, and helped kill Zexion. Attempts to betray the Organization in multiple ways. Kidnaps Kairi.

Demyx- Tried to kill Sora. Steals the Olympu stone. So many Demyx fans think Sora just ran up and stabbed Demyx repeatedly, while he sat there innocently playing his Sitar. This is not how it happened in either of his battles.

Luxord- Tried to kill Sora. Stole the pirate treasure. Really didn't do much, he has like no screen-time.

Larxene- Sadistically brutalizes Sora before actually attempting to kill him. Is emotionally cruel to everybody, but especially Namine, Repliku, Sora and Roxas. Attempts to betray the Organization.

Marluxia- Attempts to erase Soras memory. Attempts to use Sora. Attempts to betray the Organization. Uses Namine. Tries to kill Axel (In self defence though, so that may not count)

Roxas- Well, he attempts to kill Sora in a dream I guess. And he blindly follows the Organization.

Xion- According to fan girls, she exists.

 

This was rather vague, and I made generalizations to save space. I just hope this convicnes a few people that the Org. isn't as innocent as they think :/

Okay, I'm going to make a big list of XIII sins, hopefully this will help dull the blade that is blind Organization fan-lust.

 

Xemnas- Tried to kill Sora. Wanted to manipulate Sora. Betrayed Ansem the Wise. Sent Nobodies and heartless to other worlds. Manipulates Roxas and Xion.

Xigbar- Helped Xehanort in the past. Tried to kill Sora. Betrayed Ansem the wise. Messes with Roxas and Xion (Tries to kill, etc.)

Xaldin- Tried to kill Sora. Steals Beasts Rose, and Belle. Betrayed Ansem the Wise.

Vexen- Tried to kill Sora and Riku. Destroyed the life of Repliku. Twice, once literally, once figuratively. Betrayed Ansem the Wise. Tries to betray the Organization

Lexaeus- Tried to kill Riku, and lure him to the dark side. Betrayed Ansem the Wise. That's about it really. He didn't get much screen time. It was kinda mean when he hit Roxas I suppose.

Zexion- Tried to kill Riku, and lure him to the dark side. Betrayed Ansem the Wise, who was like a FATHER to him.

Saix- Tried to kill Sora, Roxas and Xion. Tried to betray the Organization. Every interaction with Roxas in Days. Every interaction with Sora in KH2. Tries to get Roxas and Xion to kill each other. Kidnaps Kairi.

Axel- Tried to kill Sora, Xion, Roxas and Marluxia. Successfully killed Vexen, and helped kill Zexion. Attempts to betray the Organization in multiple ways. Kidnaps Kairi.

Demyx- Tried to kill Sora. Steals the Olympu stone. So many Demyx fans think Sora just ran up and stabbed Demyx repeatedly, while he sat there innocently playing his Sitar. This is not how it happened in either of his battles.

Luxord- Tried to kill Sora. Stole the pirate treasure. Really didn't do much, he has like no screen-time.

Larxene- Sadistically brutalizes Sora before actually attempting to kill him. Is emotionally cruel to everybody, but especially Namine, Repliku, Sora and Roxas. Attempts to betray the Organization.

Marluxia- Attempts to erase Soras memory. Attempts to use Sora. Attempts to betray the Organization. Uses Namine. Tries to kill Axel (In self defence though, so that may not count)

Roxas- Well, he attempts to kill Sora in a dream I guess. And he blindly follows the Organization.

Xion- According to fan girls, she exists.

 

This was rather vague, and I made generalizations to save space. I just hope this convicnes a few people that the Org. isn't as innocent as they think :/

 

i dont remember Roxas trying to kill Sora in a dream ._.

theres only 3 innocent people in the organization

Roxas:was missleaded and used he cared for his friends

Xion: same

Axel: he did some bad stuff but in the end he was sorry and sacrifised himself to save Sora (and technicly Roxas). so bacicly he did what he did to protect Roxas Xion and Sora.

and the rest are the baddys

or they would have killed them selves. (like axel)

 

Very true.

 

 

they just could of said : Hai Sora can you kill heartless for us? yeah we dont got hearts it would be very nice if you could comeplete kingdom hearts for us : D

 

lol. Ikr?

I guess Xemnas remembered the last time Xehanort tried to use keybladers and thought it wouldn't work out?

 

Okay, I'm going to make a big list of XIII sins, hopefully this will help dull the blade that is blind Organization fan-lust.

 

Xemnas- Tried to kill Sora. Wanted to manipulate Sora. Betrayed Ansem the Wise. Sent Nobodies and heartless to other worlds. Manipulates Roxas and Xion.

Xigbar- Helped Xehanort in the past. Tried to kill Sora. Betrayed Ansem the wise. Messes with Roxas and Xion (Tries to kill, etc.)

Xaldin- Tried to kill Sora. Steals Beasts Rose, and Belle. Betrayed Ansem the Wise.

Vexen- Tried to kill Sora and Riku. Destroyed the life of Repliku. Twice, once literally, once figuratively. Betrayed Ansem the Wise. Tries to betray the Organization

Lexaeus- Tried to kill Riku, and lure him to the dark side. Betrayed Ansem the Wise. That's about it really. He didn't get much screen time. It was kinda mean when he hit Roxas I suppose.

Zexion- Tried to kill Riku, and lure him to the dark side. Betrayed Ansem the Wise, who was like a FATHER to him.

Saix- Tried to kill Sora, Roxas and Xion. Tried to betray the Organization. Every interaction with Roxas in Days. Every interaction with Sora in KH2. Tries to get Roxas and Xion to kill each other. Kidnaps Kairi.

Axel- Tried to kill Sora, Xion, Roxas and Marluxia. Successfully killed Vexen, and helped kill Zexion. Attempts to betray the Organization in multiple ways. Kidnaps Kairi.

Demyx- Tried to kill Sora. Steals the Olympu stone. So many Demyx fans think Sora just ran up and stabbed Demyx repeatedly, while he sat there innocently playing his Sitar. This is not how it happened in either of his battles.

Luxord- Tried to kill Sora. Stole the pirate treasure. Really didn't do much, he has like no screen-time.

Larxene- Sadistically brutalizes Sora before actually attempting to kill him. Is emotionally cruel to everybody, but especially Namine, Repliku, Sora and Roxas. Attempts to betray the Organization.

Marluxia- Attempts to erase Soras memory. Attempts to use Sora. Attempts to betray the Organization. Uses Namine. Tries to kill Axel (In self defence though, so that may not count)

Roxas- Well, he attempts to kill Sora in a dream I guess. And he blindly follows the Organization.

Xion- According to fan girls, she exists.

 

This was rather vague, and I made generalizations to save space. I just hope this convicnes a few people that the Org. isn't as innocent as they think :/

 

i dont remember Roxas trying to kill Sora in a dream ._.

theres only 3 innocent people in the organization

Roxas:was missleaded and used he cared for his friends

Xion: same

Axel: he did some bad stuff but in the end he was sorry and sacrifised himself to save Sora (and technicly Roxas). so bacicly he did what he did to protect Roxas Xion and Sora.

and the rest are the baddys

 

Sora and Roxas fought in KH2 when Sora got to The World That Never Was.

 

With Aqua7KH's provisions, hatok painted a good picture of the methods that Origination XIII used to get their hearts backs.

 

The goal they wanted to accomplish wasn't bad. It was how the tried to do it that was bad.

There's a very quick way to summarize this.

The Organization suffers from chronic villainy.

Although getting hearts wouldn't be so bad, Org XIII brought chaos upon worlds just to reach that goal and since Xemnas was going to use Kingdom Hearts to rule all worlds, they had to be stopped.

 

This is true but, it wasn't bad that they wanted hearts. However, bringing chaos to the world was a pretty bad thing to do but how else would they get their heart. As for Xemnas, I think he was one that let all the power get to his head but that could've happen to any of us. It might seem bad but I support the org when they tried getting their hearts back.

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