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Murderers should be given tools to kill themselves in jail: Tory senator

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http://www.theglobea...article2322441/

 

A key Conservative spokesman on law and order created a firestorm by saying that murderers should be provided with suicide material in jail and urging more restrictive immigration policies in the wake of the Shafia honour killings.

Senator Pierre-Hugues Boisvenu, a top advocate for victims’ rights in the Harper government, later dialled back his comments, but only after sparking outrage among suicide-prevention experts and the Opposition."

 

Mr. Boisvenu is well-known in Quebec for launching a group of victims of crime – the Murdered or Missing Persons’ Families Association – after his daughter was abducted, raped and murdered by a repeat offender in 2002. He lost another daughter to a car accident in 2005.

After his 2009 appointment to the Senate by Prime Minister Stephen Harper, the media-savvy Mr. Boisvenu became a government spokesman on law-and-order issues, lashing out repeatedly at other parties as soft on crime and as siding with criminals instead of victims.

Now, however, his political opponents say Mr. Boisvenu has crossed the line and is letting his emotions over his lost daughters overtake his political judgment.

 

“I share the pain he has felt as a father,” said Liberal MP Denis Coderre. “But he’s a senator and he can’t be inciting suicide, that goes against the Criminal Code.”

Mr. Boisvenu’s comments came as he defended the government’s C-10 crime-fighting omnibus legislation with reporters before a meeting of the Conservative caucus. He said he did not wish to reopen the debate on the death penalty, but added he didn’t mind if murderers end up killing themselves.

 

“Each assassin should have the right to a rope in his cell to make a decision about his or her life,” he said.

He added he still has questions about the fate of serial killers and those without any hope of rehabilitation in the Canadian jail system.

“I’m against the death penalty, but in horrible cases such as [serial killer Clifford] Olson, can we have a reflection on that issue?” the senator said.

Mr. Boisvenu added there are economic issues at play when considering the death penalty. He pointed specifically to the conviction of three members of the Shafia family, found guilty on Sunday of four “honour” killings.

“Their incarceration will cost $10-million to the Canadian government. There is an economic problem there, it’s $10-million that won’t be spent elsewhere, that is being spent on criminals,” he said.

Mr. Boisvenu said that instead of using the death penalty against the Afghan-born Shafias, “returning them to their country might be a tougher sentence than to keep them here, where our prisons are a lot more comfortable.” He added that the Canadian immigration system should ensure that newcomers agree with Canadian justice after a more “thorough analysis” of their values and beliefs.

“The first filter is whether there are particular communities that have anti-Canadian attitudes?” Mr. Boisvenu said. “Shouldn’t these cases be treated parsimoniously, with a much more thorough investigation, than people coming from France or the United States where there is much more respect for women.”

 

Faced with opposition attacks, the Prime Minister said he will not reopen the debate on the death penalty, which has been opposed by the Supreme Court.

“We all understand that Senator Boisvenu and his family have suffered horribly in the past, we understand his emotions in that regard,” Mr. Harper said during Question Period. “But this government is focused on making sure we protect victims in the future.”

Mr. Boisvenu did a round of interviews after his initial comments were published, releasing a statement to apologize “if his comment offended people whose close ones committed suicide.”

Despite the climb-down, Mr. Boisvenu’s comments were seen as hurting suicide-prevention efforts.

“He is seriously underestimating the reach of his words for people who are in a state of distress,” said Bruno Marchand, director-general of the Quebec Association for the Prevention of Suicide.

Mr. Marchand added that Mr. Boisvenu’s comments stand to fuel the risk of suicide among inmates who already feel “useless,” and could affect people facing financial or marital problems.

Mr. Boisvenu’s remarks come after two high-profile prison suicides in Quebec. Paul Laplante, who was recently charged with the 2008 murder of his wife, was found dead at a prison in Ste-Anne-des-Plaines, Que., last month. A few days later, Kathrine Dufresne, who was charged with murdering her adopted daughter last year, killed herself in a prison cell in Gatineau, Que.

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If inmates want ot off themselves, so be it. I don't know about helping them do it, though.

 

But this is why we need the death penalty for heinous crimes... correction. We need an effective death penalty for heinous crimes. Texas does it, they just take their sweet time.

Seriously, this seems a bit messed up. I'm not gonna say a whole lot because I can see where it's coming from in some ways. However, these guys have to be pretty sick to do something like that. I wouldn't mind if they gave people who have life sentences the choice of suicide or death but encouraging them is wrong.

 

If inmates want ot off themselves, so be it. I don;t know about helping them do it, though.

 

But this is why we need the death penealty for heinous crimes... correction. We need an effective death penalty for heinous crimes. Texas does it, they just take their sweet time.

 

This is why these sites need a dislike button. Sorry, Ansem but anyone who praises the Texan justice system loses all respect from me.

I think letting them kill themselves is just giving them an easy way out. They've already ruined their lives, let them fester in it.

I would like to know what they define as "suicide material". So on their first day would they be appointed their own shirt, pants, and noose?

This is why these sites need a dislike button. Sorry, Ansem but anyone who praises the Texan justice system loses all respect from me.

 

But that's the thing. I'm not praising it. That chizz doesn't work.

Honestly if someone hurt my family, I'd rather watch them rot in jail for the rest of their lives than give them the escape of suicide.

My opinion on the whole death penalty/life in jail thing is I'd rather have an effective death penalty than waste tax dollars on criminals so they can have a place to sleep and 3 meals to eat. Might as well enforce the death penalty if they're considering giving them tools to kill themselves. Anyways, they may kill another in an act of violence with those tools

give them the death penalty don't give them wepons that they can use to "kill themselves" do you really think they will use it to kill themselves, no they will use it to kill others that would be stupid "yes lets give them a rope they would never think to use it to kill other people they will just have to use it to kill themselve" wow thats a good idead, idiot, these people killed other people im sure they will use the rope to kill others, i say we should have the death penalty again but no we became such a nanny contruy that we have to worry about other countries well being rather then our own well being and we have to try to fix the criminals, screw that they made the choice to kill someone for whatever reason how do we know they won't do it again when they get out, just get rid of them right away

Charles Manson, a man who killed dozens of people, ordered the deaths of many people, and plotted the deaths of who knows how many other people.

 

He was to get the death penalty in California, but the death penalty was lifted days before his sentencing and he got life in jail.

 

According to a recent interview he is "happier than ever" serving out the rest of his life in prison.

 

Clearly the system is flawed.

The legal system is so screwed up.

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