We all know now that MX stated he needs 7 lights and 13 darknesses to create the X blade. But what if the numbers were off ? How would that affect it ? Just because MX needs 7 lights doesnt mean WE have to give him that many..Its not like the 7 and 13 are the original 'pieces' of the X blade . They are 'manufactured ' ..Xehanort is once again manufacturing conditions just like Ansem and Xemnas manufactured their own versions of Kingdom Hearts in the past . . What if we gave MORE ? If we have Mickey, Riku, Sora, Aqua, Ven, Terra, Lea, Kairi ,Roxas, Xion. Thats 10 wielders if Xion and Roxas are revived and we can save Terra. What would happen if the numbers were 'off' ? Would it screw up MX's plan if there ended up being more lights than 7? What if that was one way of KH rejecting Xehanort ? By providing more than 7 lights to throw off Xehanorts plan ? MX stated that he needs exactly 7 and 13 but never said what would happen if the numbers were " off " meaning there is even more 'lights ' than he expected . I'm sure he never counted on Terra getting saved, Roxas and Xion getting revived , and Lea wielding a keyblade too. That seems to be his downfall...Theres always that one little thing he didnt figure on ...which is why his plans always come up short and hes always needed a back up plan ...Just some food for thought..What do you guys think ?

Edited August 31, 201213 yr by Flaming Lea

Who knows, maybe he'll throw a curveball at us and it'll only be about halfway through, and Sora and co. will have to re-travel through the worlds (or to different ones) to combat the massive amounts of darkness... or whatever.

 

I'd like, toward the end, to have Xigbar be destroyed (for good) not too long before the final boss guantlet. Maybe have Young Xehanort be involved in the final battle (cause he's badass) and a 1-on-1 between Sora and Xehanort, with explosions and cars that transform into giant robots.

 

I'm sure there will be plenty of time remaining to show lots of buildup and drama.. After all, this will conclude the entire Xehanort Saga . It better be BIG.

Who knows, maybe he'll throw a curveball at us and it'll only be about halfway through, and Sora and co. will have to re-travel through the worlds (or to different ones) to combat the massive amounts of darkness... or whatever.

 

I'd like, toward the end, to have Xigbar be destroyed (for good) not too long before the final boss guantlet. Maybe have Young Xehanort be involved in the final battle (cause he's badass) and a 1-on-1 between Sora and Xehanort, with explosions and cars that transform into giant robots.

 

That sounds really fun.

I'm sure there will be plenty of time remaining to show lots of buildup and drama.. After all, this will conclude the entire Xehanort Saga . It better be BIG.

 

My fear is that Nomura will OVERLOAD this game with too many party members and playable characters. I'd like some diversity and maybe have Riku and somebody else be playable occassionally but I hope the dev team doesn't jump to the conclusion that "MORE MORE MORE" is better. I'm probably a minority in this, but whatever.

My fear is that Nomura will OVERLOAD this game with too many party members and playable characters. I'd like some diversity and maybe have Riku and somebody else be playable occassionally but I hope the dev team doesn't jump to the conclusion that "MORE MORE MORE" is better. I'm probably a minority in this, but whatever.

 

Nomura has too many things to utilize and too many things to tie up for just one game .Its gonna be an overload no matter how he goes about it .

I want to see Demyx back in some way . He's comic relief

 

I know! He's my favorite organization memeber and a total badass!

Nomura has too many things to utilize and too many things to tie up for just one game .Its gonna be an overload no matter how he goes about it .

 

Not everything has to be tied up. The only thing that REALLY has to happen is the defeat of Xehanort (and Xemnas, Ansem, Young Xehanort, and probably Xigbar). The BBS trio can survive into the next "saga" so they don't necessarily have to be rescued yet. But they will be.

 

I just hope, within the overload, the game won't lose its direction. That's the worst thing that could happen.

I know! He's my favorite organization memeber and a total badass!

 

What if he was brought back as Demyxnort ?

My fear is that Nomura will OVERLOAD this game with too many party members and playable characters. I'd like some diversity and maybe have Riku and somebody else be playable occassionally but I hope the dev team doesn't jump to the conclusion that "MORE MORE MORE" is better. I'm probably a minority in this, but whatever.

 

Completly oposite than you... If they make all Ven's Trio, Sora's Trio and Roxas's trio all playable characters, I would love it. It would be awesome, and it would make KH3 be unforgetable, and a huge game! I really look forward to this, but I think only Sora will be playable, he's the hero, I doubt they'll put even Riku as a aplayable one this time.

 

But as for the topic, i dont' think Xehanort thinks KH was meant to be controlled by him. I think he wants to see what will happen once he triggers it, and he hopes Darkness wins (he's on their side, so this is obvious...). But he knows it's destiny that there'll be a fight, and that 7 Light and 13 Darkness will unavoidably clash, foriming the X-Blade. He failed in BbS, but prevailed in KH1 (as Ansem) and in KH2 (as Xemnas) partially; I think he will manage to get all the requirements, and will manage to use Kingdom hearts's power, but Sora and the others will bring him down!

 

Like I sayd before, it's destiny. It they had 8 Lights, something would happen, and we'd lose one. That's just how things work (in KH)

Completly oposite than you... If they make all Ven's Trio, Sora's Trio and Roxas's trio all playable characters, I would love it. It would be awesome, and it would make KH3 be unforgetable, and a huge game!

 

Oh geez. I would hate this so much. That would be 10 playable characters, because you know Mickey would be too. 10 playable characters with different fighting styles in an action RPG storyline? Too much. Just too much.

Not everything has to be tied up. The only thing that REALLY has to happen is the defeat of Xehanort (and Xemnas, Ansem, Young Xehanort, and probably Xigbar). The BBS trio can survive into the next "saga" so they don't necessarily have to be rescued yet. But they will be.

 

I just hope, within the overload, the game won't lose its direction. That's the worst thing that could happen.

 

One of the biggest things being stressed right now is how everyone is waiting to be saved . Thats a lot to do in one game . Nomura stated he wants to tie everything up so theres nothing left to tie up in the Xehanort Saga so its done .

 

Completly oposite than you... If they make all Ven's Trio, Sora's Trio and Roxas's trio all playable characters, I would love it. It would be awesome, and it would make KH3 be unforgetable, and a huge game! I really look forward to this, but I think only Sora will be playable, he's the hero, I doubt they'll put even Riku as a aplayable one this time.

 

But as for the topic, i dont' think Xehanort thinks KH was meant to be controlled by him. I think he wants to see what will happen once he triggers it, and he hopes Darkness wins (he's on their side, so this is obvious...). But he knows it's destiny that there'll be a fight, and that 7 Light and 13 Darkness will unavoidably clash, foriming the X-Blade. He failed in BbS, but prevailed in KH1 (as Ansem) and in KH2 (as Xemnas) partially; I think he will manage to get all the requirements, and will manage to use Kingdom hearts's power, but Sora and the others will bring him down!

 

Like I sayd before, it's destiny. It they had 8 Lights, something would happen, and we'd lose one. That's just how things work (in KH)

 

Hes trying to set up this clash to summon the Xblade so he can rule and make a world of equal balance of light and darknesss even though it will set off an apocalypse . He didnt prevail in either KH1 or 2 because other factors stopped and destroyed him .Thats a fact . Thats why he still hasnt achieved it.."Destiny " has always found a way to stop him . His plans were always screwed up or somehow miscalculated .Finally , Xehanort has always FORCED the conditions of his plans .That arent naturally happening .

Edited August 30, 201213 yr by Flaming Lea

What if he was brought back as Demyxnort ?

 

No. He's going to come back as the seventh light. He's name will be Medy he will have a keyblade sitar and make Master Xehanort dance with the water!

No. He's going to come back as the seventh light. He's name will be Medy he will have a keyblade sitar and make Master Xehanort dance with the water!

 

 

LMAO I bet you would LOVE that

LMAO I bet you would LOVE that

 

It would make KhIII the best game ever!

Hes trying to set up this clash to summon the Xblade so he can rule and make a world of equal balance of light and darknesss even though it will set off an apocalypse . He didnt prevail in either KH1 or 2 because other factors stopped and destroyed him .Thats a fact . Thats why he still hasnt achieved it.."Destiny " has always found a way to stop him . His plans were always screwed up or somehow miscalculated .Finally , Xehanort has always FORCED the conditions of his plans .That arent naturally happening

 

 

What I was trying to say was that he prevailed in "making" Kingdom Hearts. Both Ansem and Xemnas made it when they created their KH. And I think it's destiny that they'll clash, but not who will win. It's not destiny that's stoping him, it's the Light preotectors. It's not completly true that he forces conditions 100% times. Yes, he manipulates people a little to get the X-Blade and Kingdom Hearts (Ansem and Xemnas made artifical KH, diferent than MX), but everything has to happen naturally, the clashes and the 7 Lights against 13 Darkness...

*EDIT*

Edited August 30, 201213 yr by Alan Smithee

What I was trying to say was that he prevailed in "making" Kingdom Hearts. Both Ansem and Xemnas made it when they created their KH. And I think it's destiny that they'll clash, but not who will win. It's not destiny that's stoping him, it's the Light preotectors. It's not completly true that he forces conditions 100% times. Yes, he manipulates people a little to get the X-Blade and Kingdom Hearts (Ansem and Xemnas made artifical KH, diferent than MX), but everything has to happen naturally, the clashes and the 7 Lights against 13 Darkness...

 

Xehanort made it so they HAVE to clash for the reasons I stated before . Thats why I'm saying destiny can step in and provide 'avenues' to help deter him .It might still happen anyways, bc of other constant twists but that doesnt meant destiny wont provide ways to help stop him like its clearly done in the past which is why hes failed . The light protectors were provided by destiny , which is what im saying will happen here . And KH provided the very door for Sora and Riku to enter to allow them to destroy Xemnas .Even though it merged with Xemnas by request . Why ? Because , it allowed an avenue for him to be defeated . Which is my whole point .Finally , Xehanort very much so forcing conditions . He split Ven , took over Terra, made people FORCED vessels against their will (or tried to with some ), brought vessels from the past , none of which is natural and all of which were conditions he forcibly did . The only thing natural going on is some of destiny's REACTIONS to his forced conditions . Who is to say these reactions will go in his favor ? Hes just assuming and look where that has got him in the past .

 

I think people are confusing the use of the word destiny. The fact of the matter is Xehanort has manufactured every event in the series that would have not otherwise occured naturally. By Xehanort's own admission he guided fate to it's proper place, one of his own making. However time and time again the universe has produced ways to prevent this. What is destiny is everything that occurred naturally.It was destiny that restructured the worlds to make sure kingdom hearts could never truly be made again. It was destiny for Xemnas to stopped hence why the worlds provided them the door to go fight him. It was destiny that provided the worlds with a normal boy who would go on to save the worlds countess times the ability to wield the weapon needed to protect them without being chosen.

I think people are confusing the use of the word destiny. The fact of the matter is Xehanort has manufactured every event in the series that would have not otherwise occured naturally. By Xehanort's own admission he guided fate to it's proper place, one of his own making. However time and time again the universe has produced ways to prevent this. What is destiny is everything that occurred naturally.It was destiny that restructured the worlds to make sure kingdom hearts could never truly be made again. It was destiny for Xemnas to stopped hence why the worlds provided them the door to go fight him. It was destiny that provided the worlds with a normal boy who would go on to save the worlds countess times the ability to wield the weapon needed to protect them without being chosen.

 

 

Yep ! Exactly my point .. and its Destiny that will provide avenues to stop or deter Xehanort this time around as well. At least preventing him from his final desired result

 

What did you get from my last post? I said that he doesn`t control anything 100%, but he clearly works to make his plans come true...

 

 

I didn`t get anything from your previous posts that ressemble devereauxr`s post. You said Xehanort forced conditions to make KH, but it`s NOT destiny that's stoping him. Destiny is the clash between Light and Drakness,

Edited August 30, 201213 yr by AntonioKHT

Geez, with so many failers, you'd think Xehanort would take the hint. All this mess for what? Satifying his curiosity? It's so silly once you get right down to it.

Geez, with so many failers, you'd think Xehanort would take the hint. All this mess for what? Satifying his curiosity? It's so silly once you get right down to it.

 

I think theres more to it then a simple curiousity, no one puts two decades worth of effort out of curiousity.

I said that he doesn`t control anything 100%, but he clearly works to make his plans come true

 

I didn`t get anything from your previous posts that ressemble devereauxr`s post. You said Xehanort forced conditions to make KH, but it`s NOT destiny that's stoping him. Destiny is the clash between Light and Drakness,

 

But the clash is only set to happen because Xehanort made it so. That is not destiny which is the point me and Flaming Lea have been pointing out since the beggining. If anything destiny has done everything it can to prevent the clash.

Edited August 30, 201213 yr by devereauxr

What did you get from my last post? I said that he doesn`t control anything 100%, but he clearly works to make his plans come true...

 

I didn`t get anything from your previous posts that ressemble devereauxr`s post. You said Xehanort forced conditions to make KH, but it`s NOT destiny that's stoping him. Destiny is the clash between Light and Drakness,

 

I said EVERYTHING Xehanort has done in all his incarnations were conditions he CAUSED personally . They didnt just happen by nature .Have you not been reading ALL my posts in this thread ? Ive said this many many times . The conditions were all caused by actions Xehanort made happen . Not nature .And Destiny ( Kh by default ) has ALWAYs responded by making avenues available to stop him . This is also what Devereauxr is also saying .That destiny made things happen in its REACTION to Xehanorts forced manufacturing .Destiny ( AND kingdom hearts by default ) caused the worlds to be separated . Destiny ( KH also by default ) provided certain 'roadblocks ' to stop people from reaching kingdom hearts and the Xblade . Thats destiny . Not the forced battle to create the Xblade . Destiny , if anything, has made ways to BLOCK it . Thats what Dev is also saying .

Edited August 30, 201213 yr by Flaming Lea

I think theres more to it then a simple curiousity, no one puts two decades worth of effort out of curiousity.

 

But it was definatly the seed that sparked his wanting to know more and then wanting to experience the whole Keyblade War thing. It may not be for curiosity's sake anymore, but it's definatly what started this whole chain reaction. Imo. > . >

We will have to defeat Xehanort eventually.

I don't think the keyblade would be forged.

 

But, If it does go as planned and who everyone expects to be the light, their is a still a tiny flaw that would effect maybe even hurt the light side for a moment.

7 POH and 7 guardians. but if one is both......

If Roxas, Xion, and Terra don't come back there will be a big problem.

Noonehastobelieveme.

No one will ever get what I am saying. T-T

I won't elaborate.

The BBS trio can survive into the next "saga" so they don't necessarily have to be rescued yet. But they will be.

 

I thought they were one of the keys to kill Xehanort O: Also, wouldn't it be mean if Sora defeats xehanort and wake them all up after this?

Much like

 

Sora *Wakes up Ventus* : "Hey, I totally killed the guy who made you and your closest friends suffer for nearly 11 years! I didn't need your help and I have to tell you that you missed SO MUCH things! Like, you're how old now? 26? And you never finished puberty?! Hahaha! That has to suck. Oh and Michael Jackson's dead!"

 

Ventus *stabs himself with his keyblade*

 

I'd like, toward the end, to have Xigbar be destroyed (for good) not too long before the final boss guantlet.

 

I can't appreciate this kind of thinking o.o