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Everybody says Sora received Riku's Keyblade because Riku gave in to the darkness. That doesn't make sense!

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ahhh okay, i must have missed something :) thanks guys you really cleared things up that ws bugging me for a while now

so was this revealed in 3d or an interview because i havent played 3 and its easy to miss an interview. i know 1 had something along those lines but i was just never sure if it was the case :) thanks again~

 

Interviews . They are all archived here so you should check them out xD

ahhh okay, i must have missed something :) thanks guys you really cleared things up that ws bugging me for a while now

so was this revealed in 3d or an interview because i havent played 3 and its easy to miss an interview. i know 1 had something along those lines but i was just never sure if it was the case :) thanks again~

No problem.

 

And i see already answered that. :P

Interviews . They are all archived here so you should check them out xD

lol thanks have to do that, ive missed most before 2012 xD

This is a nice way to introduce yourself.

I think the fact that Sora's wields the Kingdom Key is one of the mysteries of the game. Is it because his heart was stronger than Riku's? Is it because Ven's heart resides inside him? Is it a combination of these things or something else entirelly? And why Sora is wielding that particular Keyblade? Why is the χ-blade a combination of 2 Kingdom Keys? The most common theory (and also the one that is being said throughout the game) is that the KK passed down to Sora from Riku because his heart was stronger. Young Xehanort kind off said so in KH3D. The thing is, though..... what Xehanort thinks is true, doesn't mean that it is really true. I think the final game will solve all the controversies, or actually comfirm what we know.PS I just realised how difficult would be for most users to actually type the letter ''χ'' in the χ-blade because it's probably not in their keyboard layout, while it is in mine due to being a letter from the Greek Alphabet. :P

wait wait wait wait!

 

this is an introduce post? LMAO xD

  • 2 weeks later...

The Keyblade Sora received at the beginning of Kingdom Hearts belonged to Riku, but when Riku got sucked up by the darkness, it went to Sora instead. Sora was able to wield it from then on because of Ventus's heart being inside him. Later in KH1, Riku reclaimed his Keyblade from Sora, but it soon went back to Sora, for he proved himself he was worthy of the Keyblade with his Heart and his connections to his friends. 

Well yes BUT if that is the case then How would he be able to duel wield in KH 2 because he would need riku's and Ventus' keyblade? but that makes no sense....Sorry if i sound stupid i am new to the whole extensive story but i know alot about stuff dont dont sick a mod on me to ban me lol

I think the fact that Sora's wields the Kingdom Key is one of the mysteries of the game. Is it because his heart was stronger than Riku's? Is it because Ven's heart resides inside him? Is it a combination of these things or something else entirelly? And why Sora is wielding that particular Keyblade? Why is the χ-blade a combination of 2 Kingdom Keys? The most common theory (and also the one that is being said throughout the game) is that the KK passed down to Sora from Riku because his heart was stronger. Young Xehanort kind off said so in KH3D. The thing is, though..... what Xehanort thinks is true, doesn't mean that it is really true. I think the final game will solve all the controversies, or actually comfirm what we know.

 

PS I just realised how difficult would be for most users to actually type the letter ''χ'' in the χ-blade because it's probably not in their keyboard layout, while it is in mine due to being a letter from the Greek Alphabet. :P

 

We've already answered those questions. They are on this very thread. :P

It's because Riku's heart wasn't worthy anymore. So it chose the next heart worthy of wielding it. It had nothing to do with Ven.

 

 

The keyblade ceremony doesn't necessarily guarantee the person a keyblade- the keyblade must also judge ones heart worthy and then choose that person . Also wielder and master are two distinct titles .Nomura has stated that Sora is the only wielder to not have received the keyblade ceremony - thats unique in itself.

 

 

Riku: Why? It was mine.

Ansem: Know this. The heart that is strong and true shall win the keyblade.

Riku: What? You're saying my heart's weaker than his?

Ansem: For that instant it was.

 

Young Xehanort: Hands off my new vessel

Riku: Vessel?

Young Xehanort: Yes we originally had our sights set on you. But you developed a certain resistance to darkness. So we did what the keyblade did and moved down the list.

Edited by Megaman X

Here's my feel. out. Its actually Soras keyblade in kh1, because Riku has the Way to Dawn as his keyblade, not a kingdom key and since riku gave into darkness he could have gain his keyblade then, and i don't believe the keyblade likes to jump from person to person like that anyway. And in birth by sleep, terra performs the inheritance ceremony with riku because he sees a vision of an older riku, kh2 riku, so that might hint when he first needs the keyblade. And when he forcibly takes it from sora it doesn't turn into the way to dawn, still a kingdom key, a sora only weapon. So yeah.

Here's my feel. out. Its actually Soras keyblade in kh1, because Riku has the Way to Dawn as his keyblade, not a kingdom key and since riku gave into darkness he couldn't have gain his keyblade then, and i don't believe the keyblade likes to jump from person to person like that anyway. And in birth by sleep, terra performs the inheritance ceremony with riku because he sees a vision of an older riku, kh2 riku, so that might hint when he first needs the keyblade. And when he forcibly takes it from sora it doesn't turn into the way to dawn, still a kingdom key, a sora only weapon. So yeah.

  • 3 weeks later...

Riku: Why? It was mine.

Ansem: Know this. The heart that is strong and true shall win the keyblade.

Riku: What? You're saying my heart's weaker than his?

Ansem: For that instant it was.

I am bringing up a different potential take on it, was Sora's heart stronger, or did Riku's stop being true?

What if both Sora and Riku would have gave into the darkness? :P  Then Kairi must be the next on the list? 

Naw, it would have randomly picked Pluto, who sometimes seems to know everything. 

Edit: It wasn't necessarily that Riku gave into the darkness as much as it was him taking the easy way out. Even though the raft may or may not have worked, it would have been the "right" way to leave the world. (and sea vessels CAN travel to other worlds, *glares at Hook's pirate ship*) The thing is Riku didn't even try and fail, he decided that he would rather risk the whole world by using the darkness than the raft. Which if you look at it, it is an immensely selfish thing to do and he might not have been "true" to his heart. While Sora was trying his best to help his friends, even when disaster struck. He wasn't just being true to his heart he was being strong at that time.

 

Now, honestly who would it go to if Sora gave in as well, my guess would actually be Riku. But it could have chosen almost anyone, possibly an unknown character, because it chose Sora who wasn't chosen by a keyblade master.

Edited by Tigerruss

Look, Riku was originally chosen to wield the Kingdom Key but he fell to darkness so the Keyblade chose Sora instead. From that moment, the Kingdom Key was officially Sora's keyblade. Riku didn't wield a keyblade in Chain of Memories, that's because he hadn't conquered his darkness yet. His ability to wield a Keyblade was there, but he couldn't use it. After conquering his darkness, Riku was able to wield a keyblade but it wasn't the same as the first one. The Kingdom Key had already chosen Sora. Riku's keyblade became Way to the Dawn. You see, the inheritance ceremony doesn't pass down a certain type of keyblade, it passes down the ability to wield a keyblade. But you can also acquire the ability without the ceremony if your heart is strong enough.

This was explained many times. Why do people keep asking/wondering why? Lol

yes but that would require soras keyblade to be unique which we dont know if it is yet.

Yeah with the whole Keyblades being fake and the original is the X blade thing??

What if both Sora and Riku would have gave into the darkness? :P  Then Kairi must be the next on the list? 

Couldn't Kairi already wield a Keyblade because of Aqua?

Yeah it's because that one moment Riku gave into the darkness his heart wasn't has strong has Sora's was so the keyblade moved onto Sora..

Where did Riku get his Way to Dawn keyblade? Did it just appear out of nowhere..

Yeah it's because that one moment Riku gave into the darkness his heart wasn't has strong has Sora's was so the keyblade moved onto Sora..

Correct. Sora is naturally good at wielding a keyblade.

Where did Riku get his Way to Dawn keyblade? Did it just appear out of nowhere..

"We found out that Riku’s Keyblade’s name is “Way to the Dawn” when examining his item slots after he joined your party. Is that Keyblade a transfigured version of Soul Eater?Nomura: I designed it with that image. Since Riku has always been using Soul Eater, he still calls it that even after it changed form. Keyblades aren’t something that you can obtain suddenly out of nowhere, so in Riku’s case, his Soul Eater was used as an intermediary for that Keyblade." Quoted from the interview in KHII Ultimania. 

"We found out that Riku’s Keyblade’s name is “Way to the Dawn” when examining his item slots after he joined your party. Is that Keyblade a transfigured version of Soul Eater?Nomura: I designed it with that image. Since Riku has always been using Soul Eater, he still calls it that even after it changed form. Keyblades aren’t something that you can obtain suddenly out of nowhere, so in Riku’s case, his Soul Eater was used as an intermediary for that Keyblade." Quoted from the interview in KHII Ultimania.

Ok how did he learn to summon Soul Eater? Presumably after being acquainted with Maleficent

Edited by Lalalablah

Ok how did he learn to summon Soul Eater? Presumably after being acquainted with Maleficent

Who knows, I haven't read every single interview or semi-canonical mangas and novels. (not that the mangas and novels truly count)

Who knows, I haven't read every single interview or semi-canonical mangas and novels. (not that the mangas and novels truly count)

Ok! I'm just thinking maybe Roxas could get a keyblade the same way if he comes back in KH3.

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