I have heard more than one person say that completing Pokémon X and Y versions is extremely easy, but why this is true is not a surprise. In the games, one can receive a Torchic with a Blazekinite stone simply through connecting to the internet, a free Lucario, and a second starter (which also has a stone that allows their final evolution to Mega-Evolve). Adding to this, there is also the Experience Share item, which now works in a far different and more efficient way from previously, and fairly easy access to Pokémon that are as strong as Absol, Snorlax, Zangoose and Furfrou.

I have chosen not to take the easy way out by not using Torchic or the additional starter (though I own both) as members of my main team, and I do not intend to use the Lucario when I receive it. The components that I have mentioned are what have made the games too easy, and I hope that the next title in the current generation is made to be more difficult.

Edited October 26, 201312 yr by Varnish

What bugs me isn't the easy playthrough(even using only new Pokémon like I did is pretty easy plus I turned the EXP share off after the 5th gym and it was still kinda easy) but what I've been complaining about with a friend of mine is that it feels like its kind of unfinished. There isn't really much post-game after and the Battle Frontier is, sad to say, not fun. Another thing I'm disappointed in is the lack of new legendary Pokémon. They only have 3 confirmed and there's another 3 that might be legendary but still, that's only 6 new legendaries and 2 trios. Also, you can only get 3 legendaries in a playthrough of the game and I think catching legendaries is one of the most fun challenges of the series. I've also wondered why the Pokémon League's level didn't go up after beating them for the first time like in a lot of previous games. I think even adding that would've made the game so much more fun.

I think they'll put more time into Z and it'll be a lot better. This is still an awesome game though

They would make it easy like that to encourage more people to play, it was designed to encourage playing with your friends which encourages "persuading" your friends to buy them even if they don't initially want it.  And not everyone's friends is good at games.

Fool. Well, it's the same game we've been playing for years. Why would it be hard?

Fool. Well, it's the same game we've been playing for years. Why would it be hard?

Why not?

Why not?

Fool. Where's the challenge? WE already know how everything works pretty much. The new stuff can be learned in five minutes. I'm sure for someone who has never played poke'mon before, it may have actually been challenging.

Fool. Where's the challenge? WE already know how everything works pretty much. The new stuff can be learned in five minutes. I'm sure for someone who has never played poke'mon before, it may have actually been challenging.

I suppose so, but the current games are still nowhere near as difficult as some previous games. I consider the fourth generation to have been far more difficult than the current one.

I suppose so, but the current games are still nowhere near as difficult as some previous games. I consider the fourth generation to have been far more difficult than the current one.

Fool. I wonder why...

Fool. I wonder why...

I know sarcasm when I see it.

I know sarcasm when I see it.

Fool. Then I give you congratulations.

Fool. Then I give you congratulations.

Are you going to tell me why the fourth generation was more difficult, or do you simply want to condescend to me?

Edited October 26, 201312 yr by Varnish

What bugs me isn't the easy playthrough(even using only new Pokémon like I did is pretty easy plus I turned the EXP share off after the 5th gym and it was still kinda easy) but what I've been complaining about with a friend of mine is that it feels like its kind of unfinished. There isn't really much post-game after and the Battle Frontier is, sad to say, not fun. Another thing I'm disappointed in is the lack of new legendary Pokémon. They only have 3 confirmed and there's another 3 that might be legendary but still, that's only 6 new legendaries and 2 trios. Also, you can only get 3 legendaries in a playthrough of the game and I think catching legendaries is one of the most fun challenges of the series. I've also wondered why the Pokémon League's level didn't go up after beating them for the first time like in a lot of previous games. I think even adding that would've made the game so much more fun.

I think they'll put more time into Z and it'll be a lot better. This is still an awesome game though

Agreed. Especially with it feeling unfinished. I think they were more focused on the gameplay than making new Pokemon, more post game stuff, etc. (And this is me who is doing the Pokemon Maison and breeding for flawless eggs)

Fool. Where's the challenge? WE already know how everything works pretty much. The new stuff can be learned in five minutes. I'm sure for someone who has never played poke'mon before, it may have actually been challenging.

Have you been keeping with Pokemon lately?Have you played Gen 5 and Gen 6 games?

Anyway,for me I'll just turn the EXP.Share off and save the Torchic for online battles.

 

I'll get the Lucario only because I'm a Lucario fanboy

I suppose so, but the current games are still nowhere near as difficult as some previous games. I consider the fourth generation to have been far more difficult than the current one.

Gen 4 wasn't that hard at all compared to Gen 5 that mostly had strong Gym leaders and a much harder Elite Four.

Honestly, one thing that really bugs me is that they just don't give the NPCs you battle enough Pokemon. Like, I just finished up in the factory after the sixth gym (trying to keep it kinda vague, just in-case someone considers it spoiler-ish) and the Admin battles would have been challenging if they had more than two Pokemon. The sixth gym leader only had three Pokemon. I mean, let's take FireRed, for example, where the sixth (and fifth) gym leaders both had four Pokemon of comparable levels. Giovanni had five in his gym battle. I've heard that the Elite Four in this game only have four Pokemon, I mean really? I hope the Champion has the full six at least.

 

Now, I'm not saying every trainer battle should have a full team. But most of them only have one or two. Seriously, I've had a full team since the second or third town, and trainers now still use the same number of Pokemon as they did at the start of the game.

 

 

I like what they did with the experience share, but I think they should give it to us later in the game.

Edited October 27, 201312 yr by DragonMaster

Honestly, one thing that really bugs me is that they just don't give the NPCs you battle enough Pokemon. Like, I just finished up in the factory after the sixth gym (trying to keep it kinda vague, just in-case someone considers it spoiler-ish) and the Admin battles would have been challenging if they had more than two Pokemon. The sixth gym leader only had three Pokemon. I mean, let's take FireRed, for example, where the sixth (and fifth) gym leaders both had four Pokemon of comparable levels. Giovanni had five in his gym battle. I've heard that the Elite Four in this game only have four Pokemon, I mean really? I hope the Champion has the full six at least.

 

Now, I'm not saying every trainer battle should have a full team. But most of them only have one or two. Seriously, I've had a full team since the second or third town, and trainers now still use the same number of Pokemon as they did at the start of the game.

 

 

I like what they did with the experience share, but I think they should give it to us later in the game.

The Champion does have 6, but if you have a strong fighting Pokemon you'll blaze through half of her Pokemon no problem. Making the Elite 4 stronger post game would have been appreciated, as it would make completing the Pokedex easier/add more challenge.

Are you going to tell me why the fourth generation was more difficult, or do you simply want to condescend to me?

Fool. The congratulations was real.

Gen 4 wasn't that hard at all compared to Gen 5 that mostly had strong Gym leaders and a much harder Elite Four.

I disagree. I have not completed Pokémon Black 2 yet, but I found Cynthia in Pokémon Pearl and Platinum to have been substantially more difficult than Ghetsis was at the end of Pokémon Black.

I disagree. I have not completed Pokémon Black 2 yet, but I found Cynthia in Pokémon Pearl and Platinum to have been substantially more difficult than Ghetsis was at the end of Pokémon Black.

Ghetsis yeah he wasn't that hard.

 

But Iris in Black & white 2 was really challenging

Ghetsis yeah he wasn't that hard.

 

But Iris in Black & white 2 was really challenging

I should also note that in the original Diamond and Pearl, the only fire-type Pokémon that was available in pre-game that was not Chimchar was Ponyta, meaning that the range of fire-types in those games is extremely limited, which makes it more difficult than Generation V.

I should also note that in the original Diamond and Pearl, the only fire-type Pokémon that was available in pre-game that was not Chimchar was Ponyta, meaning that the range of fire-types in those games is extremely limited, which makes it more difficult than Generation V.

Not really,

 

Ralts are available in the wild in which you can evolve it into a Gallade,Riley gives you a free Riolu,in Platinum Cynthia gives you a Togebi that you can evolve into a Togekiss.I won't deny though that Cynthia is the hardest champion fight I ever had in the series....all because of THAT FREAKIN GARCHOMP OF DOOM.

 

Look,I love Diamond,Pearl and Platinum as any Pokemon fan out there,it has my favorite non-legendary Pokemon which is Lucario,but I didn't feel that the gym leaders or the Elite Four(not the champion,just the elite four) were not that challenging.....unless you're doing a Nuzlocke then Platinum is the hardest game to do a nuzlocke for