Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted November 13, 2014 Where did Xion's Keyblade come from? If it was a fake, fully capable of gathering hearts that didn't require the wielder to have one (as Xion was using one before she started forming a heart of her own), why didn't Xemnas just make a bunch of those and hand them out to the Org? So what's she using Sora's or Vens? Where did it come from? I think I'm pretty clear on it but there still seems to be a lot of confusion in the general fanbase about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) I figure it's a fake but still requires Sora's memories to be used properly. Xion wasn't able to use it without absorbing Roxas' power, if you'll remember. Also worth noting that since Xion is a replica, she has a heart, which is also most likely an important factor. Keyblades are also powerful artifacts, I imagine Xemnas had reservations about handign them to an Organization comprised of people we didn't trust It's not like keyblade can't be built, every keyblade is manmade, it's just that wielding one isn't as simple as grabbing it Edited November 13, 2014 by hatok 1 luka reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) It has been explained in game and by Nomura himself Xion's keyblade is fake . But it's also explained that she draws her power from Sora aka Roxas . They constantly were drawing their power back and forth from each other during Days .When she wasn't drawing enough power from Roxas she couldn't summon her keyblade. She was syphoning his power the entire time.That's also why Riku tells her that her keyblade is a sham . Here's some Nomura quotes just for any confused people : Why does Xion become able to use the keyblade again on day 96? Nomura: This was less due to her doing missions together with Roxas every day, and more due to using his Keyblade. She was able to once again copy his power. At this moment, the two of them were perfectly in balance. In the end Roxas is able use two keyblades. Is this because he now has Xion’s? Nomura: Well, it isn’t that Roxas has physically inherited Xion’s keyblade, but more that Xion has awakened it within Roxas. In the KH series there are a lot of complex reasons why someone can use a keyblade, but basically you need a “heart” to be able to wield one. So strictly speaking, they are being influenced by Sora. At the present I can’t say more than that, since it would go into whether or not Roxas has a heart. And there is also a part that has to do with Xehanort’s memories. This time there were connections to the Kingdom Hearts I secret movie, and the time will come when this will have a clear connection as well. You’ll just have to ask me then Nomura: Riku only realizes it when Roxas takes off his hood and he can see his face, and he responds to his call. Until then he only half believed. When he first met Xion, he didn’t think that she was Sora or Kairi’s Nobody, and it was the same with Roxas. When he first saw Roxas, he had no proof of who he was. So that’s why he lost to Roxas, he was surprised at him using a real keyblade rather than an imitation like Xion's, and he called out to him. Part of Riku didn’t really want to believe that his best friend really had a Nobody. Edited November 13, 2014 by Flaming Lea 3 luka, Demyx. and FerroAxel7 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) I figure it's a fake but still requires Sora's memories to be used properly. Xion wasn't able to use it without absorbing Roxas' power, if you'll remember. Also worth noting that since Xion is a replica, she has a heart, which is also most likely an important factor. Keyblades are also powerful artifacts, I imagine Xemnas had reservations about handign them to an Organization comprised of people we didn't trust It's not like keyblade can't be built, every keyblade is manmade, it's just that wielding one isn't as simple as grabbing it Replica's are made without hearts, because Heart's cant me replicated. that's why they're considered special Nobodies, not special people. But thanks. This one person is insisting that Xion had her own keyblade and that Roxas used hers after she died Edited November 13, 2014 by Isamu_Kuno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted November 13, 2014 Replica's are made without hearts, because Heart's cant me replicated. that's why they're considered special Nobodies, not special people. But thanks. This one person is insisting that Xion had her own keyblade and that Roxas used hers after she died. Replicas have hearts, this was confirmed in CoM. Repliku has a heart of his own It's entirely possible at some point Xion gained a legitimate keyblade at some point, in the same way Data Sora did after losing his artificial one in the middle of Re:Coded. But yeah, as it stands, Sora's second keyblade is Ventus' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) I just gave proof Roxas didn't use hers . I can add more at that if needed . Also yes Replicas can grow/have hearts just like Repliku did. Q4: Why can Roxas dual-wield? A: Because he can use both Sora’s and Ventus’ keyblades. Sora can wield two keyblades at once because he has Ventus’ as well as his own. As Roxas is a part of Sora, he also can use two. In Days Roxas awakened his ability to dual wield after fighting Xion. In KHII once Sora absorbs him, he can also dual-wield. As for Data Sora : Data Sora can newly obtain a legitimate Keyblade during his adventure, but are there changes to the real Keyblade when that happens? Nomura: No, it’s a data version the entire time. However like with the first Keyblade, it wasn’t created by someone else. It comes from the heart’s connections with the data, hinting towards the story theme, “Can a heart be born in an existence made of data?” Edited November 13, 2014 by Flaming Lea 2 luka and Demyx. reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col.Random 3,683 Posted November 13, 2014 It has been explained in game and by Nomura himself Xion's keyblade is fake . But it's also explained that she draws her power from Sora aka Roxas . They constantly were drawing their power back and forth from each other during Days .When she wasn't drawing enough power from Roxas she couldn't summon her keyblade. She was syphoning his power the entire time.That's also why Riku tells her that her keyblade is a sham . Here's some Nomura quotes just for any confused people : Why does Xion become able to use the keyblade again on day 96? Nomura: This was less due to her doing missions together with Roxas every day, and more due to using his Keyblade. She was able to once again copy his power. At this moment, the two of them were perfectly in balance. In the end Roxas is able use two keyblades. Is this because he now has Xion’s? Nomura: Well, it isn’t that Roxas has physically inherited Xion’s keyblade, but more that Xion has awakened it within Roxas. In the KH series there are a lot of complex reasons why someone can use a keyblade, but basically you need a “heart” to be able to wield one. So strictly speaking, they are being influenced by Sora. At the present I can’t say more than that, since it would go into whether or not Roxas has a heart. And there is also a part that has to do with Xehanort’s memories. This time there were connections to the Kingdom Hearts I secret movie, and the time will come when this will have a clear connection as well. You’ll just have to ask me then Nomura: Riku only realizes it when Roxas takes off his hood and he can see his face, and he responds to his call. Until then he only half believed. When he first met Xion, he didn’t think that she was Sora or Kairi’s Nobody, and it was the same with Roxas. When he first saw Roxas, he had no proof of who he was. So that’s why he lost to Roxas, he was surprised at him using a real keyblade rather than an imitation like Xion's, and he called out to him. Part of Riku didn’t really want to believe that his best friend really had a Nobody. The lack of (wry laughter) makes me question the legitimacy of this quote Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted November 13, 2014 The lack of (wry laughter) makes me question the legitimacy of this quote You know you love my large quantity of interview evidence. It makes your day. LOL 2 Col.Random and Demyx. reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col.Random 3,683 Posted November 13, 2014 You know you love my large quantity of interview evidence. It makes your day. LOL well I'm not arguing with that x3But seriously though, how do you remember all this stuff? o-o I can barely remember something said to me 5 minutes ago 1 HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted November 13, 2014 well I'm not arguing with that x3But seriously though, how do you remember all this stuff? o-o I can barely remember something said to me 5 minutes ago Haha i know you weren't. I read a lot and have a photographic memory too. 1 Demyx. reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col.Random 3,683 Posted November 13, 2014 Haha i know you weren't. I read a lot and have a photographic memory too. i've always wondered what photographic memory is like :0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites