I'M SO HYPE RIGHT NOW

 

 

Toei Animation has announced production on Dragon Ball Super (Japanese title; tentative for English release), the first all-new Dragon Ball television series to be released in 18 years. Following the recent events of the hit feature film, Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection ‘F’, Dragon Ball Super will debut in Japan in July 2015. 

 

Reuniting the franchise’s iconic characters, Dragon Ball Super will follow the aftermath of Goku’s fierce battle with Majin Buu, as he attempts to maintain earth’s fragile peace. Overseen by Dragon Ball’soriginal creator, Akira Toriyama and produced with Fuji Television, Dragon Ball Super promises to draw on its historic past to create a "bold, new universe welcoming to fans and endearing to new viewers."

 

“Having loved Dragon Ball since childhood, it is very exciting to be a part of this project,” said Osamu Nozaki, producer for Fuji Television. “Mr. Toriyama has developed a plot that’s not only a dream come true for Dragon Ball’s millions of fans, but one that will foster in a new generation of viewers.”

“When I joined Toei Animation, one of my first assignments saw me working on the production of Dragon Ball Z,” said Atsushi Kido, producer for Toei Animation. “While there for only a short period of time, being a part of the series left a lasting impression. We look forward to carrying on Dragon Ball’s tremendous legacy, bringing audiences a brand new Dragon Ball with the same sense of heart and commitment that went into past Dragon Ball productions.”

“I’ve used the word ‘cho’ (super) in so many commercials, games and other media, it is fantastic that the long awaited Dragon Ball Super will finally begin,” said Masako Nozawa, Japanese voice actress of Dragon Ball’s Son Goku, Son Gohan and Son Goten. “I hope that this series will last a long time and have the same impact around the world as its predecessor.”

 

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2015/04/28/toei-animation-begins-production-on-dragon-ball-super-tv-anime

Edited May 2, 201510 yr by Demyx.

why not just use buu, it's incredibly convenient. Comparing the addition of power levels to the multiplication of them, potara would just be the best option, it's much more reliable especially since there is no time limit, and with the assistance of buu can just break out of it with ease. And they will hopefully be going to new universes in the next series so maybe they can find some potara-undone solution.And there are different types of badassery in DBZ, adult gohan and future gohan kind of show that, and it's nice that he can take on some random douche on the street, but when he has the potential to surpass his father, yet always comes up short, it just takes away from how badass he could be. And also the fact that gohan actually questioned if he can still go super saiyan in revival of f and that he lost almost all of his muscle mass,...it doesn't help his case.

 

Maybe. But if they don't, which they probably won't, then what's the point? And just using Buu as an ultimatum is stupid. The idea of using Potara as a plot device just doesn't work because of how strong it makes the heroes. They can't be too strong, even if they're facing a powerful threat. There needs to be a struggle.

 

Gohan doesn't want to be a crazy fighting badass like his dad. He never did. The only reason he was ever pushed into the spotlight was because of Mr. Toriyama's intention to have him replace Goku as the main character. But the fans, his editors, and the story in general proved that its just too complicated to happen. At first, he was considered a weakling, and that did help for when he actually was put into the spotlight, but then he turns into an idiot and causes more crap to happen. Both times. His best moments have always been as support or making him look brave. Main character status, however, has never been done right. Ever. And quite frankly, unless it is done right without ​having to turn Gohan from a smart, caring person into a dumbass who doesn't know how to get the job done, I say let him be with his studies and wife and kid. 

 

You keep saying that, but he already did in Battle of Gods. There's precedent.

 

It's not precedent, it's you being a worry wart. This is going to be an on-going series that continues the story of DragonBall, its not going to be filled with moments like that. 

It's not precedent, it's you being a worry wart. This is going to be an on-going series that continues the story of DragonBall, its not going to be filled with moments like that. 

 

Okay, so if I have any sort of concerns and I don't have total blind faith in Toriyama, then I'm a worry wart and my opinion in invalid. Got it.

Edited April 29, 201510 yr by HeyMouseSayCheese

Okay, so if I have any sort of concerns and I don;t have total blind faith in Toriyama, then I'm a worry wart. Got it.

 

Edited April 29, 201510 yr by Firaga Sensei

 

Ooh, putting yourself in the role of a notorious obnoxious douchebag. Boy, you sure showed me.

Ooh, putting yourself in the role of a notorious obnoxious douchebag. Boy, you sure showed me.

 

I'm just messing with you at this point. I don't know who this guy is.

 

Look, my point is that this is day one, we literally have no idea what this series is going to be about. At least wait until we get official information before being a party pooper.

Edited April 29, 201510 yr by Firaga Sensei

I'm just messing with you at this point. I don't know who this guy is.

 

Look, my point is that this is day one, we literally have no idea what this series is going to be about. At least wait until we get official information before being a party pooper.

 

You don't even know what Office Space is? You firetrucking philistine. 

 

Yeah, it's day one, and I'm allowed to have doubts. You don't know anything about this new series either, you're just assuming it's gonna be great,. If you prefer to be an optimist about it and expect everything to go right, that's fine. Me, I'm a pessimist; I prefer assume everything is going to be shit and be pleasantly surprised when things aren't.

So is it set before the recent DBZ films or after?

You don't even know what Office Space is? You firetrucking philistine. 

 

Yeah, it's day one, and I'm allowed to have doubts. You don't know anything about this new series either, you're just assuming it's gonna be great,. If you prefer to be an optimist about it and expect everything to go right, that's fine. Me, I'm a pessimist; I prefer assume everything is going to be shit and be pleasantly surprised when things aren't.

 

Sorry that I'm not up to speed in the world of Mike Judge products. Most of my knowledge comes from memes. And watching Beavis and Butthead.

 

I didn't say the series was going to be great, I said I was excited and that I'm confident that the story can deliver better than that GT-whatever thing you mentioned, that it will have a better tone than past DragonBall stories, and that there is no excuse for it to drag out into the Filler Zone like DragonBall Z did. All of these things are logical assumptions, not just me poking you in the arm saying "like it, like it, like it..." *cougheventhoughimrightcough*.

So is it set before the recent DBZ films or after?

 

We don't know. All we know is that it is after the Buu Arc.

Edited April 29, 201510 yr by Firaga Sensei

Sorry that I'm not up to speed in the world of Mike Judge products. Most of my knowledge comes from memes. And watching Beavis and Butthead.

 

I didn't say the series was going to be great, I said I was excited and that I'm confident that the story can deliver better than that GT-whatever thing you mentioned, that it will have a better tone than past DragonBall stories, and that there is no excuse for it to drag out into the Filler Zone like DragonBall Z did. All of these things are logical assumptions, not just me poking you in the arm saying "like it, like it, like it..." *cougheventhoughimrightcough*.

 

Oh, you should definitely check out Office Space if you can. It's genius if you're at all familiar with corporate life, and it's damn funny. (Also it's from '99, dude, you really oughta get caught up.)

 

See, I'm just not as confident as you are. Even the manga tended to drag on way too much towards the end- remember how pointless the Saiyaman and World Tournament stuff was? Or how Toriyama couldn't seem to decide who was actually supposed to fight Buu until they finally just Spirit Bombed him? And I can't bring up enough how even the recent movie from 2013 was like one third filler. That's not a great sign.

 

I love Dragon Ball, but man, it can be really flawed, and I'm concerned (completely reasonably, I feel) that another series is going to have a lot of those same flaws that Toriyama's storytelling had years ago. I'm sure the series is going to be better than GT, and I'm sure going to watch it. I just want it to be the best it can be.

Oh, you should definitely check out Office Space if you can. It's genius if you're at all familiar with corporate life, and it's damn funny. (Also it's from '99, dude, you really oughta get caught up.)

 

See, I'm just not as confident as you are. Even the manga tended to drag on way too much towards the end- remember how pointless the Saiyaman and World Tournament stuff was? Or how Toriyama couldn't seem to decide who was actually supposed to fight Buu until they finally just Spirit Bombed him? And I can't bring up enough how even the recent movie from 2013 was like one third filler. That's not a great sign.

 

I love Dragon Ball, but man, it can be really flawed, and I'm concerned (completely reasonably, I feel) that another series is going to have a lot of those same flaws that Toriyama's storytelling had years ago. I'm sure the series is going to be better than GT, and I'm sure going to watch it. I just want it to be the best it can be.

 

I have my fair share of knowledge on that, and I'm sure it'll be hilarious. (Again, not that big on Mike Judge, sooooorrryyyyy )

 

That stuff wasn't pointless, we had new characters and concepts to introduce. More down-to-earth stuff especially, which I frankly enjoy. Also, there was never any confusion as to fight Buu. At least not that much. I mean yeah, it kinda 180'd after Gohan fought Buu, but it was pretty much resolved quickly right after that. Also, Pilaf and his crew are there to support bringing back the old action/comedy tone. Plus, we needed their shenanigans to raise Beerus's danger level up.

 

I'm not asking for praise and not recognizing flaws, but if I want to be brutally honest: DragonBall fans in general complain too much. I mean, really, the only reason that people think most of the "flaws" exist is because a) they take DragonBall way too seriously, b) they don't understand the implications of the storytelling or characterization some of the time and c) they think that its all just a big fist-fight, which it's not. It never is or was, even when things were more serious from King Piccolo to Cell. All I ask is that you keep an open mind. An open mind is what you need for all of DragonBall really, because you can obviously tell that its more about having fun then being super serious.

I have my fair share of knowledge on that, and I'm sure it'll be hilarious. (Again, not that big on Mike Judge, sooooorrryyyyy )

 

That stuff wasn't pointless, we had new characters and concepts to introduce. More down-to-earth stuff especially, which I frankly enjoy. Also, there was never any confusion as to fight Buu. At least not that much. I mean yeah, it kinda 180'd after Gohan fought Buu, but it was pretty much resolved quickly right after that. Also, Pilaf and his crew are there to support bringing back the old action/comedy tone. Plus, we needed their shenanigans to raise Beerus's danger level up.

 

I'm not asking for praise and not recognizing flaws, but if I want to be brutally honest: DragonBall fans in general complain too much. I mean, really, the only reason that people think most of the "flaws" exist is because a) they take DragonBall way too seriously, b) they don't understand the implications of the storytelling or characterization some of the time and c) they think that its all just a big fist-fight, which it's not. It never is or was, even when things were more serious from King Piccolo to Cell. All I ask is that you keep an open mind. An open mind is what you need for all of DragonBall really, because you can obviously tell that its more about having fun then being super serious.

 

I don't think "having an open mind" and having concerns about a series that has at times burned me pretty bad have to be mutually exclusive. I am excited about getting a new series, don't get me wrong, I'm a huge Dragon Ball fan. Thing is, I'm also a huge Star Wars fan, and I remember when that suddenly introduced a brand new series helmed by the original creative mind behind the legendary classic series. I doubt I have to explain how that went.

 

My point is, I don't like to get too excited over things. A lot of cool things I like have ended up disappointing me too often for me to completely trust any creative mind 100%, even Akira Toriyama. There are legitimate flaws in a lot of Dragon Ball as a whole (and I don't think I've said anything too unreasonable about them), and I for one am concerned that a lot of those flaws- or even new ones- will carry over to the new series. You can call that complaining too much if you want.

I don't think "having an open mind" and having concerns about a series that has at times burned me pretty bad have to be mutually exclusive. I am excited about getting a new series, don't get me wrong, I'm a huge Dragon Ball fan. Thing is, I'm also a huge Star Wars fan, and I remember when that suddenly introduced a brand new series helmed by the original creative mind behind the legendary classic series. I doubt I have to explain how that went.

 

My point is, I don't like to get too excited over things. A lot of cool things I like have ended up disappointing me too often for me to completely trust any creative mind 100%, even Akira Toriyama. There are legitimate flaws in a lot of Dragon Ball as a whole (and I don't think I've said anything too unreasonable about them), and I for one am concerned that a lot of those flaws- or even new ones- will carry over to the new series. You can call that complaining too much if you want.

 

Hey come on, don't be that guy who compares George Lucas to Akira Toriyama. The latter never forced his fans to buy a unwanted re-edit of his manga after all.

 

The biggest "flaws" DragonBall had came from the anime adapations (because you know, reading the manga just isn't an option I guess), and the choices made from the people who made them. As far as storytelling goes, its like night and day.

 

Look, all I'm saying is that DragonBall is at its best when the author is allowed to play around with his own imagination without the fanbase, editors, or any other killjoy-ish source holding him back. There's no filler needed, there's no GT, there's no anything. There isn't anything to jump to conclusions about or get grumpy about yet, and I for one think that a little less cynicism can be thrown its way.

Hey come on, don't be that guy who compares George Lucas to Akira Toriyama. The latter never forced his fans to buy a unwanted re-edit of his manga after all.

 

The biggest "flaws" DragonBall had came from the anime adapations (because you know, reading the manga just isn't an option I guess), and the choices made from the people who made them. As far as storytelling goes, its like night and day.

 

Look, all I'm saying is that DragonBall is at its best when the author is allowed to play around with his own imagination without the fanbase, editors, or any other killjoy-ish source holding him back. There's no filler needed, there's no GT, there's no anything. There isn't anything to jump to conclusions about or get grumpy about yet, and I for one think that a little less cynicism can be thrown its way.

 

Hey, I'm grumpy and cynical about everything, especially the stuff I love. The only reason I'm worried is because I want this new series to be good; I want it to live up to how good Dragon Ball can be.

 

(also I've been talking about the manga, all the problems with the Buu saga came from there after all)

Hey, I'm grumpy and cynical about everything, especially the stuff I love. The only reason I'm worried is because I want this new series to be good; I want it to live up to how good Dragon Ball can be.

 

(also I've been talking about the manga, all the problems with the Buu saga came from there after all)

 

Theeeeeeeeeeen let the author do his thing and we'll be right as rain.

 

(Hey throw the Buu Saga a bone, that's when DragonBall got to be fun again )

I know, I know, all signs point to awesome, but I can't help it- GT hurt me bad, I can't just forget that.

 

Besides, I stand by my other point- we're talking TV, not film. I'm sure I don't have to remind you both that Dragon Ball Z the anime is notorious for its tons of pointless filler episodes and bloated overly-long fight scenes. When all that is condensed into an hour and a half movie, its fine; that's why Battle of Gods (and presumably Revival of F) works so well. When all that gets stretched out into a series that'll likely be several dozen episodes long, those can easily become problems again. So I'm cautious.

I've never minded the filler for Dragon Ball. I also love those overly drawn out fights. I would for sure have nothing to complain about if they went back to that. 

Maybe. But if they don't, which they probably won't, then what's the point? And just using Buu as an ultimatum is stupid. The idea of using Potara as a plot device just doesn't work because of how strong it makes the heroes. They can't be too strong, even if they're facing a powerful threat. There needs to be a struggle. Gohan doesn't want to be a crazy fighting badass like his dad. He never did. The only reason he was ever pushed into the spotlight was because of Mr. Toriyama's intention to have him replace Goku as the main character. But the fans, his editors, and the story in general proved that its just too complicated to happen. At first, he was considered a weakling, and that did help for when he actually was put into the spotlight, but then he turns into an idiot and causes more crap to happen. Both times. His best moments have always been as support or making him look brave. Main character status, however, has never been done right. Ever. And quite frankly, unless it is done right without ​having to turn Gohan from a smart, caring person into a dumbass who doesn't know how to get the job done, I say let him be with his studies and wife and kid.   It's not precedent, it's you being a worry wart. This is going to be an on-going series that continues the story of DragonBall, its not going to be filled with moments like that.

Fusion has always been an "if your best just isn't good enough" tactic, goku and vegeta don't have to use it every single fight, but when they go against that one guy that just can't be beat, it just makes sense to do so, and if you're going to do it, do it big. They have a way to undue the fusion, so why not. Besides, some of the most iconic moments in dragonball z stem from the heroes at first struggling to all of a sudden ripping the villains face of with no effort, and God fusion Vegito would suit that moment perfectly just like his regular version did.And gohan's ascension was never ment to replace goku as main character, it was ment to give a sense of finality to the series where goku passes the mantle of defender of the earth on to another, but like you said, fans and editors wouldn't let toriyama end things with the cell saga even though it was a much more logically/meaningful way to end it. Instead we had goku spending half the saga trying to train two kids to take up his mantle, then all of a sudden have a character we are introduced to in the last 5 chapters/last episode come out and take goku's place...

Fusion has always been an "if your best just isn't good enough" tactic, goku and vegeta don't have to use it every single fight, but when they go against that one guy that just can't be beat, it just makes sense to do so, and if you're going to do it, do it big. They have a way to undue the fusion, so why not. Besides, some of the most iconic moments in dragonball z stem from the heroes at first struggling to all of a sudden ripping the villains face of with no effort, and God fusion Vegito would suit that moment perfectly just like his regular version did.And gohan's ascension was never ment to replace goku as main character, it was ment to give a sense of finality to the series where goku passes the mantle of defender of the earth on to another, but like you said, fans and editors wouldn't let toriyama end things with the cell saga even though it was a much more logically/meaningful way to end it. Instead we had goku spending half the saga trying to train two kids to take up his mantle, then all of a sudden have a character we are introduced to in the last 5 chapters/last episode come out and take goku's place...

 

It doesn't matter how good it is, its bad storytelling and its inconvenient. Period. We at least need a new rule or standard that takes over so the ridiculous "stomach acid" method has to be used over and over again, but again, it would be stupid.

 

I wouldn't say he took his place, he's just another new ally and a student of Goku. He's somebody that Goku got to take in and teach not counting somebody in his family. Still, I'm pretty sure the intention of Gohan becoming a main character was there, regardless of how it turned out. The second half of DragonBall was, after all, originally going to have a much heavier focus on Gohan altogether.

Edited May 1, 201510 yr by Firaga Sensei

I am so freaking stoked for this. I have been waiting for them to make a new DB series since GT, and I am glad that GT is no longer canon and this is going to follow the DBZ storyline (between the last two episodes).

It doesn't matter how good it is, its bad storytelling and its inconvenient. Period. We at least need a new rule or standard that takes over so the ridiculous "stomach acid" method has to be used over and over again, but again, it would be stupid. I wouldn't say he took his place, he's just another new ally and a student of Goku. He's somebody that Goku got to take in and teach not counting somebody in his family. Still, I'm pretty sure the intention of Gohan becoming a main character was there, regardless of how it turned out. The second half of DragonBall was, after all, originally going to have a much heavier focus on Gohan altogether.

well that's your opinion I suppose, just like How i believe God fusion vegito should make an appearance.And the whole point of the Majin buu saga from a thematic standpoint was goku passing on the mantle of defender of earth, it's why he trained goten and trunks when he could have dealt with the issue personaly and ended it then and there. I believe goku did mention his mortality at one point and stated that the earth will always need a champion, someone to take up his legacy. No matter how you slice it, Uub is that person, he isn't just some random ally/student, he is the guy that will take over as earth's greatest defender after goku dies a natural death. Which is honestly my number one grievance with the whole series, Atleast with gohan in cell saga, it would have been a beautiful moment to have gohan become earths greatest champion. By defeating cell, the literal amalgamation of all of goku's enemies from dragonball all the way to Z, gohan would have pretty much fought all of goku's previous battles in one go, proving that he was ready to take on anything that comes next, but with Uub...it's just, an Indian version of piccolo.

well that's your opinion I suppose, just like How i believe God fusion vegito should make an appearance.And the whole point of the Majin buu saga from a thematic standpoint was goku passing on the mantle of defender of earth, it's why he trained goten and trunks when he could have dealt with the issue personaly and ended it then and there. I believe goku did mention his mortality at one point and stated that the earth will always need a champion, someone to take up his legacy. No matter how you slice it, Uub is that person, he isn't just some random ally/student, he is the guy that will take over as earth's greatest defender after goku dies a natural death. Which is honestly my number one grievance with the whole series, Atleast with gohan in cell saga, it would have been a beautiful moment to have gohan become earths greatest champion. By defeating cell, the literal amalgamation of all of goku's enemies from dragonball all the way to Z, gohan would have pretty much fought all of goku's previous battles in one go, proving that he was ready to take on anything that comes next, but with Uub...it's just, an Indian version of piccolo.

 

First off, Cell didn't have cells from every single villain from DragonBall. He had Frieza cells, Cold cells, and cells from the heroes. Slow your roll. lol Cell wasn't hat interesting of a villain anyway, it wouldn't have been that great. Second, Uub is not an Indian version of Piccolo, I don't know how that crossed your mind. Thirdly, who said there only had to be one "champion of Earth"? Goku, as powerful as he is, has always needed help from his friends to accomplish things. He's never truly done a lot just by himself. He's needed his friends to help him train and to take care of him so that he can be ready to come to their aid and others aid and fight the good fight. So what if Uub becomes Goku's student? We have Goten, Trunks, Pan, and even Bra, Marron, and a still-young-enough Gohan and Videl (granted that the former is handled well) in that period of time to be put to use as well. Who says Goku can't have more than one student? Like I said before, Gohan's time passed and it was never done correctly in the first place. Cell is barely an accomplishment of itself considering that he took his time actually beating him. 

First off, Cell didn't have cells from every single villain from DragonBall. He had Frieza cells, Cold cells, and cells from the heroes. Slow your roll. lol Cell wasn't hat interesting of a villain anyway, it wouldn't have been that great. Second, Uub is not an Indian version of Piccolo, I don't know how that crossed your mind. Thirdly, who said there only had to be one "champion of Earth"? Goku, as powerful as he is, has always needed help from his friends to accomplish things. He's never truly done a lot just by himself. He's needed his friends to help him train and to take care of him so that he can be ready to come to their aid and others aid and fight the good fight. So what if Uub becomes Goku's student? We have Goten, Trunks, Pan, and even Bra, Marron, and a still-young-enough Gohan and Videl (granted that the former is handled well) in that period of time to be put to use as well. Who says Goku can't have more than one student? Like I said before, Gohan's time passed and it was never done correctly in the first place. Cell is barely an accomplishment of itself considering that he took his time actually beating him. 

 

well that's your opinion I suppose, just like How i believe God fusion vegito should make an appearance.And the whole point of the Majin buu saga from a thematic standpoint was goku passing on the mantle of defender of earth, it's why he trained goten and trunks when he could have dealt with the issue personaly and ended it then and there. I believe goku did mention his mortality at one point and stated that the earth will always need a champion, someone to take up his legacy. No matter how you slice it, Uub is that person, he isn't just some random ally/student, he is the guy that will take over as earth's greatest defender after goku dies a natural death. Which is honestly my number one grievance with the whole series, Atleast with gohan in cell saga, it would have been a beautiful moment to have gohan become earths greatest champion. By defeating cell, the literal amalgamation of all of goku's enemies from dragonball all the way to Z, gohan would have pretty much fought all of goku's previous battles in one go, proving that he was ready to take on anything that comes next, but with Uub...it's just, an Indian version of piccolo.

Goku isn't really a good defender anyway. He loses most of the time. haha

BAM

 

 Not sure if it's legit. But It looks legit. 

Edited May 2, 201510 yr by Demyx.

This is a fake trailer, but I thought it was cool/funny all the same.

 

http://www.inquisitr.com/2078792/dragon-ball-super-to-have-100-200-episodes-latest-movie-breaks-japanese-box-office-records/

 

OMG GUYS, THIS IS GREAT! 100 episodes off the bat, maybe 200 (so like 5 years running show/manga?)

 

Also, Broly might be officially canon, dang.