Thanks to RoxSox for this. I'll post the chat up, so you can see.

 

 

 

 

RoxSoxKH: Well, they finally got a video out with the starting and ending cutscenes of the battle.

RoxSoxKH: And...

RoxSoxKH: I noticed one or two things.

RoxSoxKH: He fades in and out...

RoxSoxKH: kind like a misty wave...

RoxSoxKH: appearing her and there

RoxSoxKH: like you said, like a ghost.

RoxSoxKH: And...

RoxSoxKH: if one were to look carefully at both his stance, and the hilt of his blades.

RoxSoxKH: You'll notice something far more interesting...

RoxSoxKH: Clock hands.

 

 

RoxSoxKH: Then,

RoxSoxKH: the keyblade you get when defeating him...

RoxSoxKH: if you look at the keychain?

RoxSoxKH: An hourglass.

 

RoxSoxKH: One blade pointing straight up behind his back, the other foward, going out to the side.

RoxSoxKH: Look at it closely?

RoxSoxKH: His stance is like a clock.

This man is a genius. Its all there.

 

People who said that time travel was not in KH, was wrong. I am included in that group. Up until seeing the video of the secret boss, I would have believed different. But its all there.

 

did anyone notice that round 2:30, he used some move that stopped time and reversed a few seconds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioEGK2Sz2dM

Me and SoraKings new theory is as follows:

 

 

The Mysterious Figure may be the physical embodiment of Kingdom Hearts itself.

It would explain his/its Ability to control most magic powers, use special attacks from throughout the series, and his obvious mastery over time.

Perhaps, in the future, some event from BBS triggers an event in the future which may cause the utter downfall of everything. Kingdom Hearts would then, in its last effort to save itself and the worlds, come to a human form (Or, posses the body of another, namely MX's remainging shell), and go back in time to stop T/A/V from doing what caused the crisis.

Whatever the outcome of the battle is (in canon), will be set up future events to be retold.

Enter, KH3D.

If the above theory were to be correct, then 3D fits in perfectly.

3D will be the alternate future... the 3rd dimension. It re-tells the story of the series in the way MF/KH makes it occur.

But... 3D is a disarray.

Everything is confusing or out of place,

Coinciding with 3D's confusion, Re:Connect will take place in Soras struggle to return everything to the way it was, bfore MF/KH screwed things up.

Very good point. o.o. I don't have any theories about it but I may come up with some later.

Me and SoraKings new theory is as follows:

 

 

The Mysterious Figure may be the physical embodiment of Kingdom Hearts itself.

It would explain his/its Ability to control most magic powers, use special attacks from throughout the series, and his obvious mastery over time.

Perhaps, in the future, some event from BBS triggers an event in the future which may cause the utter downfall of everything. Kingdom Hearts would then, in its last effort to save itself and the worlds, come to a human form (Or, posses the body of another, namely MX's remainging shell), and go back in time to stop T/A/V from doing what caused the crisis.

Whatever the outcome of the battle is (in canon), will be set up future events to be retold.

Enter, KH3D.

If the above theory were to be correct, then 3D fits in perfectly.

3D will be the alternate future... the 3rd dimension. It re-tells the story of the series in the way MF/KH makes it occur.

But... 3D is a disarray.

Everything is confusing or out of place,

Coinciding with 3D's confusion, Re:Connect will take place in Soras struggle to return everything to the way it was, bfore MF/KH screwed things up.

 

Makes sense to me. I don't want to spoil anything in BBS for any of you so I'll just keep my mouth shut unless you want to hear my theory(extension?) about that

Me and SoraKings new theory is as follows:

 

 

The Mysterious Figure may be the physical embodiment of Kingdom Hearts itself.

It would explain his/its Ability to control most magic powers, use special attacks from throughout the series, and his obvious mastery over time.

Perhaps, in the future, some event from BBS triggers an event in the future which may cause the utter downfall of everything. Kingdom Hearts would then, in its last effort to save itself and the worlds, come to a human form (Or, posses the body of another, namely MX's remainging shell), and go back in time to stop T/A/V from doing what caused the crisis.

Whatever the outcome of the battle is (in canon), will be set up future events to be retold.

Enter, KH3D.

If the above theory were to be correct, then 3D fits in perfectly.

3D will be the alternate future... the 3rd dimension. It re-tells the story of the series in the way MF/KH makes it occur.

But... 3D is a disarray.

Everything is confusing or out of place,

Coinciding with 3D's confusion, Re:Connect will take place in Soras struggle to return everything to the way it was, bfore MF/KH screwed things up.

 

 

I personally don't even wan't kh3d theories to be mentioned due to it's nature of paradox's and utter vagueness that we have seen so far. As far as the notion of kh having a 'will,' it is expressed in kh2 when the worlds gave the door to them to fight Xemnas so I would doubt that kh would do this in such a manner. Also 3d doesn't stand for third dimension, but that's ok to make that mistake because when I was thinking about what it could stand for I thought of that too. lol

No, Keystrike.

Nomura meant that it didn't mean 3D as in actual 3D technology.

Having a literal Third Dimension paralell to that of the existing universe is still an option.

i think there will be something to do with time (like how time doesnt affect where aqua is or w/e) but i doubt there will be time travel because thats a stretch and is kinda silly sounding.

Wow, you guys are geniuses! This makes perfect sence!

did anyone notice that round 2:30, he used some move that stopped time and reversed a few seconds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioEGK2Sz2dM

 

quite sensable

 

Me and SoraKings new theory is as follows:

 

 

The Mysterious Figure may be the physical embodiment of Kingdom Hearts itself.

It would explain his/its Ability to control most magic powers, use special attacks from throughout the series, and his obvious mastery over time.

Perhaps, in the future, some event from BBS triggers an event in the future which may cause the utter downfall of everything. Kingdom Hearts would then, in its last effort to save itself and the worlds, come to a human form (Or, posses the body of another, namely MX's remainging shell), and go back in time to stop T/A/V from doing what caused the crisis.

Whatever the outcome of the battle is (in canon), will be set up future events to be retold.

Enter, KH3D.

If the above theory were to be correct, then 3D fits in perfectly.

3D will be the alternate future... the 3rd dimension. It re-tells the story of the series in the way MF/KH makes it occur.

But... 3D is a disarray.

Everything is confusing or out of place,

Coinciding with 3D's confusion, Re:Connect will take place in Soras struggle to return everything to the way it was, bfore MF/KH screwed things up.

 

if that is true, then i think im going to die from massive confusion

 

DAMN YOU NOMURA! (i never know how to spell his name! but thanks to RoxSoxKH i remember now, but ill probably forget again in the next day or so)

No, Keystrike.

Nomura meant that it didn't mean 3D as in actual 3D technology.

Having a literal Third Dimension paralell to that of the existing universe is still an option.

 

Read this:http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/06/18/nomura_on_kh_3ds/ and this http://heartstation.org/?p=2303

 

So no it isn't an option. Also why would you say that it doesn't stand for 3d because of the system when it stands for the same thing just a different reason when that would just confuse people.

 

Also it said that kh3d takes place on the same time axis. No alternate universes.

 

Finally reconnect isn't even confirmed and it seems you left out what the direction the story is headed in, such as healing people and Xehanort, and instead went with a vague base of time paradox's and novel ideas not brought into the story as of yet.

 

Sorry if that was a bit harsh by the way.

I never even stated that 3D's name exactly was Three Dimensional. It was just a DESCRIPTION of what it COULD be.

Jesus, I hate when people take things seriously.

I still get the vibe it was meant to be taken seriously so I will just go with what you said about it being just a description of what it could be.

 

No, Keystrike.

Nomura meant that it didn't mean 3D as in actual 3D technology.

Having a literal Third Dimension paralell to that of the existing universe is still an option.

 

Read this:http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/06/18/nomura_on_kh_3ds/ and this http://heartstation.org/?p=2303

 

So no it isn't an option. Also why would you say that it doesn't stand for 3d because of the system when it stands for the same thing just a different reason when that would just confuse people.

 

Also it said that kh3d takes place on the same time axis. No alternate universes.

 

Finally reconnect isn't even confirmed and it seems you left out what the direction the story is headed in, such as healing people and Xehanort, and instead went with a vague base of time paradox's and novel ideas not brought into the story as of yet.

 

Sorry if that was a bit harsh by the way.

 

like he just said below, he was saying that 3 Dimensions wasnt the original meaning, sure it is a nice twist, but it will mean something else,

You can briefly see the silhouette of teh MF's face, it may just be a stock face sued for all cloaked people, but I thought it looked kind of like... Riku.

I actually saw a close up silhouette as well. I thought it looked like Riku...but Riku-Ansem. The MF has the exact same nose as Ansem. Lol, it might not be legit, but its just something I noticed.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if it WAS Riku, but I would need to know exactly why Riku would attack TAV. But if it is him, this person could be possibly connected the period of his absence. And it would also explain why the MF knows all of those Keyblade wielder moves.

I actually saw a close up silhouette as well. I thought it looked like Riku...but Riku-Ansem. The MF has the exact same nose as Ansem. Lol, it might not be legit, but its just something I noticed.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if it WAS Riku, but I would need to know exactly why Riku would attack TAV. But if it is him, this person could be possibly connected the period of his absence. And it would also explain why the MF knows all of those Keyblade wielder moves.

 

Isn't Riku a 5 year old then? Unless you mean time travel and even then this boss seems to have a greater connection to Xehanort who would have the incentive to fight them.

 

I actually saw a close up silhouette as well. I thought it looked like Riku...but Riku-Ansem. The MF has the exact same nose as Ansem. Lol, it might not be legit, but its just something I noticed.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if it WAS Riku, but I would need to know exactly why Riku would attack TAV. But if it is him, this person could be possibly connected the period of his absence. And it would also explain why the MF knows all of those Keyblade wielder moves.

 

Isn't Riku a 5 year old then? Unless you mean time travel and even then this boss seems to have a greater connection to Xehanort who would have the incentive to fight them.

 

And Riku has no connection to Xehanort at all, huh?

Riku and Xehanort have one of the deepest connections in Kingdom Hearts. We don't know if Xehanort's presence has been completely eradicated from Riku.

I just noticed something. He's probably not related to Xigbar in anyway, but then again: Xigbar can control time sometimes right? I was watching a battle with MF and saw a move similar to what Xigbar used in the fight with him in KH2.

Can't be Xiggy though. Look at the fighting style. MF uses various moves from various people. He's very quick, and very acrobatic. Xigbar doesn't do mid-air somersaults lol. But it has to be someone who was around in the story, or a new character. I think its someone who has been around, and was able to observe other people fight, and copy their moves.

That's the biggest problem with the '15th Member' theory though, the element of Time is already taken by Xigbar.

Space and Time. Thoguh really they're the same thing.

Perhaps time isn't exactly his element, it's just an ability he has, or has copied. Because this dude has copied a hella alot of other peoples moves.

I wonder if it is something akin to the Replica's that have appeared throughout the series?

Ahh. That could be another idea.

 

A replica with the data of several different people.

 

 

Isn't Riku a 5 year old then? Unless you mean time travel and even then this boss seems to have a greater connection to Xehanort who would have the incentive to fight them.

 

And Riku has no connection to Xehanort at all, huh?

 

You're saying that I am saying that Riku has no connection to Xehanort right? (internet talk is so confusing!)

 

What I am saying is that Xehanort seems to have a much more direct connection to this guy than Riku, hence the word greater. Also it seems to make more sense to go with who has the greatest connection.

 

Riku and Xehanort have one of the deepest connections in Kingdom Hearts. We don't know if Xehanort's presence has been completely eradicated from Riku.

 

I know this but thanks anyway. : )