I watched Big Hero 6 for the first time earlier this week and I noticed something about the ending which paralleled an event from Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep.

 

 

 

During the ending to BH6, there was a segment in which both Hamada Hiro and Baymax realise they are unable to make it out of the 'warp realm' together with their unconscious target (Abigail Callaghan). Baymax realises that it has to 'do something' or they'll 'both be lost' and after an emotional scene with Hiro protesting against such a course of action, Baymax ultimately chooses to sacrifice itself and blast Hiro and Abigail through the portal into the realm world using his 'rocket fist'.

 

I felt that this scene really paralleled the infamous scene where Aqua chose to give herself up to save Terra during the final episode of Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep. Both scenes are REALLY similar and if you haven't watched BH6 yet I highly encourage it.

 

What I found interesting was that in the epilogue of BH6, Baymax was revived using the Chip containing its memory/program which it left in the Rocket fist which was used to blast Hiro back into the real world. Hiro later found the chip and was able to rebuild and revive his best friend.

 

Could Aqua have done something similar with her Keyblade, Rainfell/Stormfell, when she left it with Terra? Could it act as a 'Key' or a Dowsing compass for Sora to use to find her?

 

 

In the Kh3 trailers, theres also a scene where Sora comes across the Master Keeper Keyblade...or perhaps could this keyblade act as the 'Baymax Chip' in order to bring Aqua back.

 

 

With that said...if Aqua abandoned the Mater's Keeper - She'd be in huge trouble since it'd implicate that she'd be alone without a Keyblade in the Realm of Darkness

 

 

 

 

Now tell me

'On a scale from 0-10, how would you rate your pain?

 

Sora will be the one to end the pain

Edited May 14, 20169 yr by catmaster0116

That's a pretty interesting theory, I admit. But, we'll have to see what happens in 0.2 Birth by Sleep. Maybe Aqua has already escaped the Realm of Darkness or by the end of the game Mickey will have saved her. Either way, both her armour and the Master's Keeper keyblade do raise my curiosity on what happened to her.

That's a pretty interesting theory, I admit. But, we'll have to see what happens in 0.2 Birth by Sleep. Maybe Aqua has already escaped the Realm of Darkness or by the end of the game Mickey will have saved her. Either way, both her armour and the Master's Keeper keyblade do raise my curiosity on what happened to her.

She couldn't have escaped nor could Mickey have helped because remember Blank Points? That could be assumed to have taken place during Re:coded and Aqua was still there and Ansem the Wise already showed up. Also, if Mickey did have her escape, she would have been with him when he arrived at Castle Oblivion.As for this theory, well Sora coming across the Master Keeper was a beta trailer and we might not end up seeing that at all. However, for the BH6 part, I never realized the parallels between BbS and that. Very clever.

Edited May 14, 20169 yr by KingdomHearts3

MY PAIN IS AN 11, MY FRIEND

 

okay but seriously, I love parallels so I must applaud your discovering this one (as well as your Zelda reference). And that's a good thought, her Keyblade may well be part of the puzzle needed to find/retrieve her; which is more interesting when you consider that Terra also lost his Keyblade, as it's currently with his armor in the Graveyard. Maybe this is a common necessity for saving both of them? (And consider that both Terra's and Ven's Keyblades were able to enter the Realm of Darkness to protect Aqua, so there might indeed be a power in their Keyblades that could help locate one another...)

 

Either way, interesting thoughts!

I watched Big Hero 6 for the first time earlier this week and I noticed something about the ending which paralleled an event from Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep.

 

 

 

During the ending to BH6, there was a segment in which both Hamada Hiro and Baymax realise they are unable to make it out of the 'warp realm' together with their unconscious target (Abigail Callaghan). Baymax realises that it has to 'do something' or they'll 'both be lost' and after an emotional scene with Hiro protesting against such a course of action, Baymax ultimately chooses to sacrifice itself and blast Hiro and Abigail through the portal into the realm world using his 'rocket fist'.

 

I felt that this scene really paralleled the infamous scene where Aqua chose to give herself up to save Terra during the final episode of Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep. Both scenes are REALLY similar and if you haven't watched BH6 yet I highly encourage it.

 

What I found interesting was that in the epilogue of BH6, Baymax was revived using the Chip containing its memory/program which it left in the Rocket fist which was used to blast Hiro back into the real world. Hiro later found the chip and was able to rebuild and revive his best friend.

 

Could Aqua have done something similar with her Keyblade, Rainfell/Stormfell, when she left it with Terra? Could it act as a 'Key' or a Dowsing compass for Sora to use to find her?

 

 

In the Kh3 trailers, theres also a scene where Sora comes across the Master Keeper Keyblade...or perhaps could this keyblade act as the 'Baymax Chip' in order to bring Aqua back.

 

 

With that said...if Aqua abandoned the Mater's Keeper - She'd be in huge trouble since it'd implicate that she'd be alone without a Keyblade in the Realm of Darkness

 

 

 

 

Now tell me

'On a scale from 0-10, how would you rate your pain?

 

Sora will be the one to end the pain

The first KH3 trailer isn't supposed to mean anything, it was kind of like a tech demo, but other than that not a bad idea.

She couldn't have escaped nor could Mickey have helped because remember Blank Points? That could be assumed to have taken place during Re:coded and Aqua was still there and Ansem the Wise already showed up. Also, if Mickey did have her escape, she would have been with him when he arrived at Castle Oblivion.

Keep in mind though that time flows differently in the Realm of Darkness. The events of Blank Points may have happened quicker for Aqua, so we can't know for sure if it does take place during Re:coded. Not to mention that by the time Sora and Riku arrived at the Dark Margin, both Aqua and Ansem the Wise were already gone. Doesn't that indicate that she has already escaped the Realm of Darkness?

Edited May 14, 20169 yr by khsg

Wow, I'm glad someone else noticed that parallel.

 

Peace!

TEN!

OW! IT HURTS IT HURTS SO BAD!

That's a pretty interesting theory, I admit. But, we'll have to see what happens in 0.2 Birth by Sleep. Maybe Aqua has already escaped the Realm of Darkness or by the end of the game Mickey will have saved her. Either way, both her armour and the Master's Keeper keyblade do raise my curiosity on what happened to her.

 

The first KH3 trailer isn't supposed to mean anything, it was kind of like a tech demo, but other than that not a bad idea.

 

Keep in mind though that time flows differently in the Realm of Darkness. The events of Blank Points may have happened quicker for Aqua, so we can't know for sure if it does take place during Re:coded. Not to mention that by the time Sora and Riku arrived at the Dark Margin, both Aqua and Ansem the Wise were already gone. Doesn't that indicate that she has already escaped the Realm of Darkness?

 

 

1-Actually time moves slower in the RoD and is one of the reasons Aqua hasn't aged. She met AtW when he was sent there the second time after KH2.

 

2-Sora and Riku were not at the exact same place as Ansem the Wise and Aqua.

 

3- The KH3 beta trailer was symbolic not canon to what literally happened.

 

4- Regardless, keyblades can be in,more than one place at a time - look at Sora and Roxas for example.

 

Gonna drop these here:

 

 

Presently there are 4 main untold stories to consider. “The period of the King’s absence”, “The period of Riku’s absence”, “Roxas’ time in Organization XIII” and “Xehanort’s past”. In this case, The story of “The period of the King’s absence” is set in the realm of darkness. I am examining a way to tell these 4 stories so I might be able to find a way to tell them soon.

 

What can be called the dark coastline seen at the beginning and end of KHII is the tip of a world. It is not strictly part of the realm of darkness but rather what serves as the boundary line in between the dark and the in-between. In the ending, Sora and Riku were on the coast on the in-between side and were looking at the sea of the realm of darkness. The door visible in the dark sea is a scene that symbolizes “Deep within the darkness, there is light”, as Sora said in the previous KH.

• At one point in 'KHII’, Ansem the Wise escapes from the Realm of Darkness. This time he has once again descended into the Realm of Darkness. At what point in time does this happen?

After 'KHII’. When he stopped the Organization’s plans in 'KHII’, he was caught up in an explosion and blown into the Realm of Darkness. The line where he says, “How long has it been since I met him? At least a year now, perhaps more…” is referring to before 'he’ went to sleep–that is, it’s referring to the time of 'Chain of Memories’. It doesn’t mean this is one year after 'KHII’.

• At that point, it seems like Aqua has been lost for a long time.

Yes. From when she comes to the Realm of Darkness to when she meets Ansem the Wise, over 10 years have passed in the outside world. The flow of time is different in the Realm of Darkness and the outside world, so it doesn’t feel like 10 years have passed. But there’s no mistaking that she’s been in the Realm of Darkness for quite a long time.

 

 

VII - In KH, at the same time Sora became a heartless Roxas was born and entered the Organization. So if that’s the case, at that point in time at Castle Oblivion Sora used a keyblade while at the same time Roxas would have been using a keyblade. Was this Sora’s keyblade? Within the organization I think we particularly saw Roxas using a keyblade. And similar to Roxas, Sora served as another Keyblade Master conveniently gathering hearts. So why was the Organization defeated?

 

The keyblade that Roxas used and the thing that Sora once lost in Castle Oblivion are the same thing. Furthermore, these two both used the keyblade at the same time. This is can be explained by the relationship between Roxas and Sora. Thus, that both can wield two keyblades in fact has an important meaning. This is also related to Xehanort’s memories, but this point can’t be touched on just yet.

 

Furthermore, from the time that the two were both using the keyblade at the same time, the Organization itself was using Sora for their ultimate goal. Soon enough, each of the Organization’s expectations differed. By changing Sora and Roxas’s movements, eventually they became unable to use Sora for their true meaning. As a result, Sora became an obstacle to the movements of the organization itself and he had to be defeated. But even if Sora were to be defeated, you could say there are other things to think about in making that sacrifice.

 

 

• Even just from watching the Shadows in the trailer moving we certainly can tell that the enemies have evolved. And, on the other side, Sora has gained powers befitting a 'Keyblade Master’, hasn’t he? Will he be able to transform his Keyblade?

Nomura: In this stage of testing he can transform it. By the way, in the trailer, Sora picks up the Keyblade belonging to Master Eraqus that Aqua had. We put that together in order to remind you of the story of KHIII, as this time we weren’t able to prepare a scene that would show you a portion of the drama.

 

1-Actually time moves slower in the RoD and is one of the reasons Aqua hasn't aged. She met AtW when he was sent there the second time after KH2.

 

2-Sora and Riku were not at the exact same place as Ansem the Wise and Aqua.

 

3- The KH3 beta trailer was symbolic not canon to what literally happened.

 

4- Regardless, keyblades can be in,more than one place at a time - look at Sora and Roxas for example.

 

Gonna drop these here:

 

 

Presently there are 4 main untold stories to consider. “The period of the King’s absence”, “The period of Riku’s absence”, “Roxas’ time in Organization XIII” and “Xehanort’s past”. In this case, The story of “The period of the King’s absence” is set in the realm of darkness. I am examining a way to tell these 4 stories so I might be able to find a way to tell them soon.

What can be called the dark coastline seen at the beginning and end of KHII is the tip of a world. It is not strictly part of the realm of darkness but rather what serves as the boundary line in between the dark and the in-between. In the ending, Sora and Riku were on the coast on the in-between side and were looking at the sea of the realm of darkness. The door visible in the dark sea is a scene that symbolizes “Deep within the darkness, there is light”, as Sora said in the previous KH.

 

[*]At one point in 'KHII’, Ansem the Wise escapes from the Realm of Darkness. This time he has once again descended into the Realm of Darkness. At what point in time does this happen?

After 'KHII’. When he stopped the Organization’s plans in 'KHII’, he was caught up in an explosion and blown into the Realm of Darkness. The line where he says, “How long has it been since I met him? At least a year now, perhaps more…” is referring to before 'he’ went to sleep–that is, it’s referring to the time of 'Chain of Memories’. It doesn’t mean this is one year after 'KHII’.

[*]At that point, it seems like Aqua has been lost for a long time.

Yes. From when she comes to the Realm of Darkness to when she meets Ansem the Wise, over 10 years have passed in the outside world. The flow of time is different in the Realm of Darkness and the outside world, so it doesn’t feel like 10 years have passed. But there’s no mistaking that she’s been in the Realm of Darkness for quite a long time.

 

 

VII - In KH, at the same time Sora became a heartless Roxas was born and entered the Organization. So if that’s the case, at that point in time at Castle Oblivion Sora used a keyblade while at the same time Roxas would have been using a keyblade. Was this Sora’s keyblade? Within the organization I think we particularly saw Roxas using a keyblade. And similar to Roxas, Sora served as another Keyblade Master conveniently gathering hearts. So why was the Organization defeated?

The keyblade that Roxas used and the thing that Sora once lost in Castle Oblivion are the same thing. Furthermore, these two both used the keyblade at the same time. This is can be explained by the relationship between Roxas and Sora. Thus, that both can wield two keyblades in fact has an important meaning. This is also related to Xehanort’s memories, but this point can’t be touched on just yet.

Furthermore, from the time that the two were both using the keyblade at the same time, the Organization itself was using Sora for their ultimate goal. Soon enough, each of the Organization’s expectations differed. By changing Sora and Roxas’s movements, eventually they became unable to use Sora for their true meaning. As a result, Sora became an obstacle to the movements of the organization itself and he had to be defeated. But even if Sora were to be defeated, you could say there are other things to think about in making that sacrifice.

 

 

 

[*]Even just from watching the Shadows in the trailer moving we certainly can tell that the enemies have evolved. And, on the other side, Sora has gained powers befitting a 'Keyblade Master’, hasn’t he? Will he be able to transform his Keyblade?

Nomura: In this stage of testing he can transform it. By the way, in the trailer, Sora picks up the Keyblade belonging to Master Eraqus that Aqua had. We put that together in order to remind you of the story of KHIII, as this time we weren’t able to prepare a scene that would show you a portion of the drama.

Thanks Lea! Thanks for the fact check.

 

Keep in mind though that time flows differently in the Realm of Darkness. The events of Blank Points may have happened quicker for Aqua, so we can't know for sure if it does take place during Re:coded. Not to mention that by the time Sora and Riku arrived at the Dark Margin, both Aqua and Ansem the Wise were already gone. Doesn't that indicate that she has already escaped the Realm of Darkness?

So as you saw Lea quote from an interview, time in the RoD actually goes slower and in a way it's quite fitting. So, Aqua still remains trapped in the RoD. If she did escape, we probably would have seen her romping around the RoL and probably have met Sora again.

Thanks Lea! Thanks for the fact check.So as you saw Lea quote from an interview, time in the RoD actually goes slower and in a way it's quite fitting. So, Aqua still remains trapped in the RoD. If she did escape, we probably would have seen her romping around the RoL and probably have met Sora again.

Oh now I see...You were right!!