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Edited July 26, 20169 yr by Wan_Pisu

I don't believe it. More fake "leaks" to get people overly hyped. It's Smash 4 all over again.

I don't know if it's true, but like any rumor, wait until Nintendo or whoever announces it themselves. The interesting thing is that one of their unnamed sources seems to know the exact month of their NX launch. Of course, Nintendo's policy is not to comment on rumors, so we'll see what happens in September as to whether this rumor is proved true or not.

I don't know if it's true, but like any rumor, wait until Nintendo or whoever announces it themselves. The interesting thing is that one of their unnamed sources seems to know the exact month of their NX launch. Of course, Nintendo's policy is not to comment on rumors, so we'll see what happens in September as to whether this rumor is proved true or not.

September's been assumed to be the reveal date for a while now, it's not unique to this particular "leak." These rumors always just go off of popular speculation, it's easier to say you were right if you go for easy guesses.

I don't believe it, but even if it's real "None of it!"

None of it really. Not too big on Nintendo.

I don't believe it. It all sounds so ridiculous. Probably the most credible rumor is the cartridge based games.

September's been assumed to be the reveal date for a while now, it's not unique to this particular "leak." These rumors always just go off of popular speculation, it's easier to say you were right if you go for easy guesses.

Wasn't aware of the part of September being assumed to be the reveal month. But I see what you mean. You go for easy guesses. You site unnamed "sources" to make your "leak" look credible.

Fusion aspect. Only thing that could get me to buy a Nintendo console is it being a handheld =P.

I'l just wait until Nintendo announces it before I bother giving my thoughts.

That moment when you're the only one excited for the processor. That is if its the Tegra X2 because whether it uses the X1 or X2 will make a huge difference.

I mean CARTRIDGES? Seriously? That works all fine and well for portable consoles, but unless you made the things bigger and bigger you would not be able to contain the same amount of data that's necessary to display games like Breath of the Wild, Sonic 2017, and whatever else gets confirmed for whatever the NX is. I get that everybody gets huge nostalgia-boners whenever retro stuff like cartridges are brought up, but the fact is that to make that a definitive media style in the modern video game market is just too much of a risk to take, even for Nintendo.

 

The one thing I am also skeptical about is the idea that Nintendo isn't striving for graphical power. Considering how the Wii U showed their attempts to get caught up with the 7th gen hardware of their competitors, I highly doubt that Nintendo won't be showing any such interest in catching up in that kind of manner. The fact that some titles like Sonic 2017 will be running on all 8th gen consoles just kind of tells me that whatever the NX is running on, it's going to be similar enough to compete with the PS4 and Xbox One in terms of graphics and power. Gimmicks are nice, especially for Nintendo, but hardware is what's ultimately important.

I highly doubt that it's true. If Final Fantasy XV, as well as multiple other 8th gen games, can be ported to the NX, then the NX is more powerful than the rumor claims. I think the writer was just taking past NX rumors as true for some reason, because he repeated a lot of past rumors and speculation about the console.

I mean CARTRIDGES? Seriously? That works all fine and well for portable consoles, but unless you made the things bigger and bigger you would not be able to contain the same amount of data that's necessary to display games like Breath of the Wild, Sonic 2017, and whatever else gets confirmed for whatever the NX is. I get that everybody gets huge nostalgia-boners whenever retro stuff like cartridges are brought up, but the fact is that to make that a definitive media style in the modern video game market is just too much of a risk to take, even for Nintendo.

 

Catridges are actually a smart move from a hardware standpoint. They process quicker than disks and are cheaper to manufacture. Long gone are the days of the N64 catridges. Remember, Nintendo still uses cartridges with the 3DS so they know how to create contemporary cartridges for their gaming systems.

Catridges are actually a smart move from a hardware standpoint. They process quicker than disks and are cheaper to manufacture. Long gone are the days of the N64 catridges. Remember, Nintendo still uses cartridges with the 3DS so they know how to create contemporary cartridges for their gaming systems.

That's different, portable consoles are one thing, we're talking about a piece of major hardware that's meant to compete with powerhouses like the PS4 and Xbox One. Unless they also found a way to make floppy disks superior to compact discs and bring those back, I doubt an entire current gen game can be compressed into an adequately sized cartridge and have it perform well. Maybe I'm wrong and it does work, but until I see proof of that happening or functioning well, I'm calling this out as just a nostalgia grab.

While I like the idea of it, I'll wait till we receive further news. I kinda hope if the detachable controller thing is real, then the controller will snap together so it'll play like a console controller. Something like that.

 I doubt an entire current gen game can be compressed into an adequately sized cartridge and have it perform well. Maybe I'm wrong and it does work, but until I see proof of that happening or functioning well, I'm calling this out as just a nostalgia grab.

Which is why Nintendo needs to make an official reveal about this console because words can only go so far. And besides, Nintendo's biggest selling point is nostalgia is it not?

Which is why Nintendo needs to make an official reveal about this console because words can only go so far. And besides, Nintendo's biggest selling point is nostalgia is it not?

Yes it is, but when it comes to the function of a game console and it's media, I would expect or at the very least hope that more consideration is being put forward into practicality rather than novelty. Yeah, it'd be "cool" if all of Nintendo's games were on cartridges again, just like the "good ol' 90's", but would it really be a practical or more convenient choice? It raises a whole lot of questions, and with the next step in media after disks seemingly being pure data on it's own, I honestly doubt taking a step backward and relying on housed chips encased in plastic is going to rival any feat that can already be accomplished by a modern compact disk. Maybe I just don't understand the science behind it, but I'm just really concerned that it would be an ill-advised attempt on cashing in on nostalgia instead of making practical decisions. Unless it's more practical for some reason to go with a cartridge over a disk, I would not see this as a likely scenario for the NX's hypothetical reveal.

Edited July 27, 20169 yr by Hero of Light XIV

Yes it is, but when it comes to the function of a game console and it's media, I would expect or at the very least hope that more consideration is being put forward into practicality rather than novelty. Yeah, it'd be "cool" if all of Nintendo's games were on cartridges again, just like the "good ol' 90's", but would it really be a practical or more convenient choice? It raises a whole lot of questions, and with the next step in media after disks seemingly being pure data on it's own, I honestly doubt taking a step backward and relying on housed chips encased in plastic is going to rival any feat that can already be accomplished by a modern compact disk. Maybe I just don't understand the science behind it, but I'm just really concerned that it would be an ill-advised attempt on cashing in on nostalgia instead of making practical decisions. Unless it's more practical for some reason to go with a cartridge over a disk, I would not see this as a likely scenario for the NX's hypothetical reveal.

 

 

Watch this. Again, all of your reasoning at this point is out of familiarity with CD's on home consoles. Ever since PlayStation, CD's were the trend because it was the technological advancement at the time, but with the progression of technology, a cartridge based console is far more quieter, quicker and reliable with frame rates. 

 

Watch this. Again, all of your reasoning at this point is out of familiarity with CD's on home consoles. Ever since PlayStation, CD's were the trend because it was the technological advancement at the time, but with the progression of technology, a cartridge based console is far more quieter, quicker and reliable with frame rates. 

This guy brings up some interesting points, but he doesn't really go the extra mile to acknowledge whatever flaws having a cartridge based system with modern hardware would bring. I prefer hearing a little more than just how "good" and "great" and "cool" of an idea this is. No method is perfect, yet this guy seems to be implying it is. I'd really rather see an example of someone who explains why this would be potentially both a good and problematic idea. Again, I don't know the science behind most of this stuff, but from a consumer perspective, I found cartridges really annoying to deal with, the way that dust could get stuck and corrupt the game, the fact that blowing the dust out actually turns out to be the wrong thing to do, the way that dust could get stuck in the port on the console, are you seeing a theme here? Yeah discs are fragile and can get scratched up but at least they don't have nooks and crannies to catch dust on. This may be the only flaw that I'm directly aware of, but it's a pretty significant one. Cartridges might have more of a collector's value, but they're a lot more high maintenance to take care of. If anybody can give me more reason why it's either a better alternative or an obsolete one I'd love to hear it, because I honestly realize how weak it is to have just a one-note argument.

This guy brings up some interesting points, but he doesn't really go the extra mile to acknowledge whatever flaws having a cartridge based system with modern hardware would bring. I prefer hearing a little more than just how "good" and "great" and "cool" of an idea this is. No method is perfect, yet this guy seems to be implying it is. I'd really rather see an example of someone who explains why this would be potentially both a good and problematic idea. Again, I don't know the science behind most of this stuff, but from a consumer perspective, I found cartridges really annoying to deal with, the way that dust could get stuck and corrupt the game, the fact that blowing the dust out actually turns out to be the wrong thing to do, the way that dust could get stuck in the port on the console, are you seeing a theme here? Yeah discs are fragile and can get scratched up but at least they don't have nooks and crannies to catch dust on. This may be the only flaw that I'm directly aware of, but it's a pretty significant one. Cartridges might have more of a collector's value, but they're a lot more high maintenance to take care of. If anybody can give me more reason why it's either a better alternative or an obsolete one I'd love to hear it, because I honestly realize how weak it is to have just a one-note argument.

 

You're assuming that the Nintendo NX cartridges will be designed like the N64 cartridges. Again, a practical demonstration can't really be done until Nintendo unveils the product because there's no current home console to be cartridge based so you're basically asking for an impossible favour. Tell me the difficulty of getting rid of dust from a cartridge like this...

 

Because that's the kind of cartridges that the Nintendo NX would be going for. Of course, they'd be designed differently and may be bigger in size, but this the kind of hypothetical NX cartridge that you'd be ooking at as opposed to the NES, SNES, N64 cartridges.

You're assuming that the Nintendo NX cartridges will be designed like the N64 cartridges. Again, a practical demonstration can't really be done until Nintendo unveils the product because there's no current home console to be cartridge based so you're basically asking for an impossible favour. Tell me the difficulty of getting rid of dust from a cartridge like this...

 

Because that's the kind of cartridges that the Nintendo NX would be going for. Of course, they'd be designed differently and may be bigger in size, but this the kind of hypothetical NX cartridge that you'd be ooking at as opposed to the NES, SNES, N64 cartridges.

My point is that this isn't a perfect medium choice. Even with a design like that there's bound to be some flaws that would set it apart from disks. For one thing they're more expensive to make, which could very well affect pricing, and disks typically hold more data and can result in larger games. Imagine if FF VII Remake was being made with cartridges. Hypothetically speaking, let's say that there's going to be at least 3 episodes to the game. With cartridges we wouldn't have 3 episodes, we'd have to have 6 just to fit the same amount of content into that style of media. But say you could fit enough data in where you could still have those 3 hypothetical episodes, the game would still be more expensive than it would be on a disk. It's going to be a lot harder to sell a game these days if it goes above the $60 price line, it's just not economically sound. Disks are already well established within the industry, many of the modern systems were made to be easier to develop for, and while the economy isn't in as dire of straights as it was a few years ago, things still aren't in a state where everyone would gladly pay $80-$120 for just 1-2 hours of difference in game experience. To just make Nintendo become a piece to a different puzzle all of the sudden could compromise it's role in the market. I'd rather see them "catch up" before I see them try to make as big a move as this. Unless I see proof that this could work in modern times on a home console I'm not going to be convinced. The most I would compromise towards would be mini-disks with the plastic casing, or even just mini disks like the Gamecube used.

 

Yeah, it sounds a bit stubborn, but at this point hard physical evidence is the only thing that will convince me, and since there isn't any yet, well, I'm going to have to wait a while before I change my mind. I know for a fact though that I'd rather put up with 1 hour of pre-loading before playing than having to pay an extra $20 or so just to instantly get started.