Obama is like totally ruining the US. I can't wait for Trump to run. If he does. Can someone help the US. GO MR. TRUMPSTER. WHOOOOOOOH!!!!! Anybody else agree that Tump would be a good run!

Trust me Regan is a racist. Like I said there are racists in both parties.

Running a government is also a lot like running a business. You collect resources, you work with idiots, you try to make yourself look good, and of course you have an army. Yes many big businesses have small private armies.

 

You miss something, president don't make profits for themselves

 

(Btw, yes I'm another rebel to the thread title)

You miss something, president don't make profits for themselves

 

(Btw, yes I'm another rebel to the thread title)

 

Neither do Corp leaders. Assuming a mega-corporation is on the stock market they are making money for the people who have purchased a share of stock. The share holders are the ones who make money. Theoretically thousands of people can become millionaires which is what happened when Microsoft went on the stock market.

 

 

Trust me Regan is a racist. Like I said there are racists in both parties.

Do you have evidence?

Yes I do but I'm not going to sit here and type a thousand facts just to proove a point that's well, pointless.

Yes I do but I'm not going to sit here and type a thousand facts just to proove a point that's well, pointless.

 

You don't need to type thousands, just 5 to 10 will suffice.

Neither do Corp leaders. Assuming a mega-corporation is on the stock market they are making money for the people who have purchased a share of stock. The share holders are the ones who make money. Theoretically thousands of people can become millionaires which is what happened when Microsoft went on the stock market.

 

The Trump Organization is a privately-owned conglomerate based at the Trump Tower in Manhattan, New York. The organization owns, operates, and develops hotels, resorts, residential towers, and golf courses in different countries, as well as owning several pieces of high-end real estate in New York City. (from wiki)

 

That assumption doesn't hold to Trump, he doesn't sell shares of his Trump organization in stock market.

 

 

...And Razor, Fredfredbug is right, if you haven't really think of any reason, just confess about it, it's okay, before you pull away too long.

I'm sorry to say this but, WHAT THE MATTER WITH YOU PEOPLE?! Obama is trying his best! he can't help it that things like this are happen like this because of the Republicans, the tea party and the people who listen to them talk badly about him and they're actions! People voted for him to because they wanted change over night but people need to understand change takes a while. I think voting for Trump is not going to change anything but probably might make our situation worst!

I'm sorry to say this but, WHAT THE MATTER WITH YOU PEOPLE?! Obama is trying his best! he can't help it that things like this are happen like this because of the Republicans, the tea party and the people who listen to them talk badly about him and they're actions! People voted for him to because they wanted change over night but people need to understand change takes a while. I think voting for Trump is not going to change anything but probably might make our situation worst!

 

He is trying his best, but his best isn't good enough. A true president would be bale to handle the job as well as deal with crap from the other parties. Obama has shown he isn't capable of doing this.

 

He still has a year to change my mind, I doubt he will though.

@topic: I'm not an expert at politics at all; however, I'd rather just wait to see how Trump can prove himself to be a good President, before I'd make a decision.

 

@razorwind: I agree with RoxAs Is Wise, if you don't have facts, then just confess

This talk or whatever is almost pointless and has driven me to the point to just, well, leave.

Donald Trump as President? Wow, I definitely didn't see this one coming. PLOT TWIST.

 

Eh, he'll probably be better than Obama. Three years and high taxes! So whatever happen to the rich being taxed? What an idiot. Makes me appreciate Bush more, and that says something.

 

Let's just hope he can run a country though. Our last couple of presidents haven't done much of that.

 

Plus Obama is raising taxes. How is that going to put more money into your wallet?

 

EXACTLY! The gas prices has hit 4 bucks again, at least here in CT. I'm supposed to be driving in a few months. Why should I have to pay 4 bucks to get from Point A to Point B? It's ridiculous.

 

This talk or whatever is almost pointless and has driven me to the point to just, well, leave.

 

 

Do you know what this is? A man. Keanu Reeves to be exact.

 

Do you know what you are? Not a man. Why? Because men don't make random shit up and then continue to act cool about it. You got busted, now you're going to pay the price.

 

And the talk isn't pointless. It was a discussion on Trump being President. You were being pointless in making stuff on how every President is racist. Yeah ok, Abraham Lincoln. Republican. Fought AGAINST slavery in the Civil War. Wanted African slaves to free. He's definitely racist. Just pack it up, Abe here was racist all along. Yep.

 

I know History class is boring, but if you listen, you might learn a thing or two.

Well, I'll give him credit, he's an ambitious man. I'd be fine if he were president. (: I think anyone but Obama again would be alright. I'm not a very political person, though, so as long as he keeps this trainwreck of a country under control, it's all good with me.

Deathskull, that might be the best post I've ever seen on the site.

 

Anyway, I've been listening around lately, and I really don't think Trump has what it takes to be president. Every time he's talked about politics, he hasn't mentioned new things he'll bring to the table, or what he will try to improve. He only talks about how Obama hasn't shown a birth certificate. That's it.

 

If he really is serious about being president, he'll have to do more than bash at the slim possibility that Obama isn't American, and actually prove he knows what to do.

Deathskull, that might be the best post I've ever seen on the site.

 

Anyway, I've been listening around lately, and I really don't think Trump has what it takes to be president. Every time he's talked about politics, he hasn't mentioned new things he'll bring to the table, or what he will try to improve. He only talks about how Obama hasn't shown a birth certificate. That's it.

 

If he really is serious about being president, he'll have to do more than bash at the slim possibility that Obama isn't American, and actually prove he knows what to do.

 

I would definatly have to agree with baylaust. All trump wants to do is see Obama's birth certificate and than judge his knowledge. As for DeathSkull I'm going to ignore your post. Not because "I know it's true" or whatever you guys may be thinking because I don't feel like starting an argument.

 

In my opinion, if Trump would campaign to become president he would get a significant amount of votes. But I don't think that there would be enough votes for Trump to beat Obama. Plus, Obama is a politican. Trump is just a Billionare buisness man.

I am not going to pretend that I know anything about politics, nor will I pretend to know all that Obama has done since he became President. I just want to say, I do not want Trump as President. A business is not the same thing as a country.

I agree with Baylaust's points.

Deathskull, that might be the best post I've ever seen on the site.

 

Anyway, I've been listening around lately, and I really don't think Trump has what it takes to be president. Every time he's talked about politics, he hasn't mentioned new things he'll bring to the table, or what he will try to improve. He only talks about how Obama hasn't shown a birth certificate. That's it.

 

If he really is serious about being president, he'll have to do more than bash at the slim possibility that Obama isn't American, and actually prove he knows what to do.

 

Actually Obama recently released his birth certificate. It's probably forged as it did take 3 years for him to show it to us. But alas Trump is claiming this as a victory. He managed to push the president to show his birth certificate. So he just proved the he has willpower and Obama is weak and easily influenced by others.

 

 

 

 

In my opinion, if Trump would campaign to become president he would get a significant amount of votes. But I don't think that there would be enough votes for Trump to beat Obama. Plus, Obama is a politican. Trump is just a Billionare buisness man.

 

 

I am not going to pretend that I know anything about politics, nor will I pretend to know all that Obama has done since he became President. I just want to say, I do not want Trump as President. A business is not the same thing as a country.

I agree with Baylaust's points.

 

You guys need to learn how businesses work. You have to deal with stupid people. You have to handle competition from other businesses. You have to gather resources. You have to silence troublemakers. You have to take over other businesses. You have to make your business look good and appealing.

 

There is only one difference between governments and businesses, governments rule the country, businesses rule the market. Hell one could even argue that governments rule the market and businesses rule the country.

 

Point is government and businesses are EXACTLY the same.

Actually Obama recently released his birth certificate. It's probably forged as it did take 3 years for him to show it to us. But alas Trump is claiming this as a victory. He managed to push the president to show his birth certificate. So he just proved the he has willpower and Obama is weak and easily influenced by others.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You guys need to learn how businesses work. You have to deal with stupid people. You have to handle competition from other businesses. You have to gather resources. You have to silence troublemakers. You have to take over other businesses. You have to make your business look good and appealing.

 

There is only one difference between governments and businesses, governments rule the country, businesses rule the market. Hell one could even argue that governments rule the market and businesses rule the country.

 

Point is government and businesses are EXACTLY the same.

 

Government and Buisness are EXACTLY the same? You must be kidding me? This is just your opinion. Other people definatley would disagree or think otherwise. This is not true.

Government and Buisness are EXACTLY the same? You must be kidding me? This is just your opinion. Other people definatley would disagree or think otherwise. This is not true.

 

 

Explain to me how they aren't.

Well, here is my opinion in short. (even though its not very short...hehe) I think donald trump would be a bad president, so far the only thing I have heard him talk about is Obama's birth certificate. I find that ridiculous, the whole issue of whether Obama was born here or not is just a joke to me, and it's really not worth me debating over. Here is the link to his birth certificate, if you believe its forged, then there isn't much else anyone can do to change your mind-

 

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate.pdf

 

When you find proof that it is forged, let me know. Also, I'm not a huge supporter of Obama or anything. However, I think he could be a better president for different reasons than most other people. I think he needs to do more, as in stop doing things half-way. For example, healthcare reform, I thought was a wonderful idea, but in the end hardly anything was actually reformed. Anyways, back to Donald Trump. If he starts talking about important issues, there might be more for me to consider. As of now I wouldn't consider voting for him for a second.

Well, here is my opinion in short. (even though its not very short...hehe) I think donald trump would be a bad president, so far the only thing I have heard him talk about is Obama's birth certificate. I find that ridiculous, the whole issue of whether Obama was born here or not is just a joke to me, and it's really not worth me debating over. Here is the link to his birth certificate, if you believe its forged, then there isn't much else anyone can do to change your mind-

 

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate.pdf

 

When you find proof that it is forged, let me know. Also, I'm not a huge supporter of Obama or anything. However, I think he could be a better president for different reasons than most other people. I think he needs to do more, as in stop doing things half-way. For example, healthcare reform, I thought was a wonderful idea, but in the end hardly anything was actually reformed. Anyways, back to Donald Trump. If he starts talking about important issues, there might be more for me to consider. As of now I wouldn't consider voting for him for a second.

 

He proved that the President is a fool that is easily influenced by others. He placed the final blow that got Obama to show his birth certificate to the public. It's more than just a birth certificate, it's showing to the country that if he can control the President, he can control the country.

He proved that the President is a fool that is easily influenced by others. He placed the final blow that got Obama to show his birth certificate to the public. It's more than just a birth certificate, it's showing to the country that if he can control the President, he can control the country.

 

The fact that Obama showed a birth certificate doesn't prove that Trump can lead America. If he wants to make it into office, he needs a better stance than "I don't like Obama. Vote for me, because I'm not Obama." If he actually has a plan, he needs to make it clear as to what it is, and do something other than bash the president you guys have. Once he actually talks about how he plans to make things right, who knows, my opinion might change. But until he does something other than go on news radio and tv shows and bash Obama, I'm not convinced.