New evidence has appeared to support the idea that the 2011 Trailer and all existing screenshots for Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance was rendered using the engine from Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep, rather than a new engine. These two videos below, thanks to YouTube user Keytotruth, demonstrate this.

 

 

 

As you can see, these are hacked videos of Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Final Mix. They reveal extra models which are hidden in the game, and as shown, they are the same as the models that appear in the Dream Drop Distance trailer. Interesting stuff.

Way too iteresting. I mean that means that they were already planning to make 3D near the end of developing for BBS. Also there are some hints in the way that they were put. I mean TVA replaced each by SRK and more interesting the Vanitas that came from MX was VANITAS LINGERING SPIRIT!! What could that mean?? It's kind of scary and confusing but WAY TOO INTERESTING!!!

Congrats for the finding!!

DDD should be out soon then, considering bbs was created long enough ago that if they were already working on DDD already they should be finished with the game within the next 1-3 months and then they'll probably give it 4 months after its finished before they release it (those numbers are probably a little off) so it should be out by january 2012 at the latest.

I already knew some KH3D stuff was in BBS FM, this just adds to the awesomeness.

this is the proof that everyone can`t wait for kh DDD

And those slackers just left that extra data lying around? Someone need auditing...

I'm not really suprised, I mean did you really think they could, just like that, build a new engine?

So does that mean KH3D will be confined to the limits of PSP graphics and not be able to demonstrate what the 3DS is truly capable of? ... Darn.

I saw both of these as soon as he released them, and I found it pretty interesting. I find it great that he was able to do this

And guys, he told me in a comment that he has something prepared in which you might be able to play AS Sora or Riku in BBSFM! He didn't go into details tough...

lool !! :blink: kairi - ' _ ' -

So does that mean KH3D will be confined to the limits of PSP graphics and not be able to demonstrate what the 3DS is truly capable of? ... Darn.

 

no. they can use the same models and animations on all systems, so it just means they had done some models and animations that they planned on using in 3d when they were making bbs

and the 3ds works in a way that they dont need to do anything special with the graphics. so they can use the same graphics they use on the psp with the 3ds but in 3d

This proves that DDD could've been ran on a psp. But SE just switch the console for more money.. And one of those animations where Sora is jumping is from last year at that Nintendo World thing, where Sora attacks the Twilight Thorn.

 

IGN: ''The game cuts again and shows Riku waking up Traverse Town (the main hub world of the PS2 game).'' - e3 2010 trailer description. I think the riku animation where he opens his eyes and looks surprised is from the E3 2010 trailer.

 

I saw both of these as soon as he released them, and I found it pretty interesting. I find it great that he was able to do this

And guys, he told me in a comment that he has something prepared in which you might be able to play AS Sora or Riku in BBSFM! He didn't go into details tough...

 

Keytotruth told me about character replacement before. He says the battle models for TAV are a specific amount of memory, and any other non-playable battle model who would be replaced by one of TAV would have to be the exact same size in memory, anything else will not fit.. Anyway I doubt Sora and Riku have battle animations.. the best we will get is T-stance.

This proves that DDD could've been ran on a psp. But SE just switch the console for more money.. And one of those animations where Sora is jumping is from last year at that Nintendo World thing, where Sora attacks the Twilight Thorn.

 

IGN: ''The game cuts again and shows Riku waking up Traverse Town (the main hub world of the PS2 game).'' - e3 2010 trailer description. I think the riku animation where he opens his eyes and looks surprised is from the E3 2010 trailer.

 

 

 

Keytotruth told me about character replacement before. He says the battle models for TAV are a specific amount of memory, and any other non-playable battle model who would be replaced by one of TAV would have to be the exact same size in memory, anything else will not fit.. Anyway I doubt Sora and Riku have battle animations.. the best we will get is T-stance.

 

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is it possible to taake those models and play as sora or riku in bbs

supersamsonic 3 days ago

 

@supersamsonic I believe it is, but it'd be a hell of a long job. It'd be very hard and T-stance a lot.

kinodesplat 2 days ago

 

@kinodesplat I have a surprise on that matter.

Keytotruth 2 days ago

 

@Keytotruth ...Oh?

kinodesplat 2 days ago

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is it possible to taake those models and play as sora or riku in bbs

supersamsonic 3 days ago

 

@supersamsonic I believe it is, but it'd be a hell of a long job. It'd be very hard and T-stance a lot.

kinodesplat 2 days ago

 

@kinodesplat I have a surprise on that matter.

Keytotruth 2 days ago

 

@Keytotruth ...Oh?

kinodesplat 2 days ago

 

Until I see proof I will not believe.

Until I see proof I will not believe.

 

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Comments, Page 3 and 2.

 

Video proof.

Video proof.

 

...What?

I get it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! XEHANORT IS GOING TO WANT TO DESTROY SORA(VEN) BECAUSE HE IS THE XEYBLADE SO SORA WANT'S TO BE DESTROYED!!!! KAIRI=AQUA AND TERRA=RIKU.....SO THAT MEANS IF WE COULD PLAY AQUA IN THE GAME WE CAN PLAY KAIRI TOO!!! (THAT DOESN'T MEAN SHE IS GOING TO WIN THE MARK OF MASTERY)SO MAYBE THEY KINDA GO BACK IN TIME TO SAVE VAT.....(VEN,AQUA,TERRA)AND THE FINAL WORLD IS GOING TO BE THE KEYBLADE GREYVYARD!!!! (THIS IS JUST A THEORY SO DON'T LEAVE COMMENTS BELOW SAYING:IT'S NOT THIS IT'S NOT THAT AND BLAH BLAH BLAH...

I get it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! XEHANORT IS GOING TO WANT TO DESTROY SORA(VEN) BECAUSE HE IS THE XEYBLADE SO SORA WANT'S TO BE DESTROYED!!!! KAIRI=AQUA AND TERRA=RIKU.....SO THAT MEANS IF WE COULD PLAY AQUA IN THE GAME WE CAN PLAY KAIRI TOO!!! (THAT DOESN'T MEAN SHE IS GOING TO WIN THE MARK OF MASTERY)SO MAYBE THEY KINDA GO BACK IN TIME TO SAVE VAT.....(VEN,AQUA,TERRA)AND THE FINAL WORLD IS GOING TO BE THE KEYBLADE GREYVYARD!!!! (THIS IS JUST A THEORY SO DON'T LEAVE COMMENTS BELOW SAYING:IT'S NOT THIS IT'S NOT THAT AND BLAH BLAH BLAH...

 

Madness. This video was made just to demonstrate that KH3D ran on the BBS engine, it's not a foreshadowing to the future of kingdom hearts. He just happened to put the models in that exact scene, or maybe that was the only scene that he could get the models viewable in.I mean, how can he possibly know what's going to happen with the future of the series.

 

@Kinode I want to see an actual video of playable Sora & Riku in BBSFM because I don't believe it's possible.

Madness. This video was made just to demonstrate that KH3D ran on the BBS engine, it's not a foreshadowing to the future of kingdom hearts. He just happened to put the models in that exact scene, or maybe that was the only scene that he could get the models viewable in.I mean, how can he possibly know what's going to happen with the future of the series.

 

@Kinode I want to see an actual video of playable Sora & Riku in BBSFM because I don't believe it's possible.

 

i just said my opinion but...okay i get what you said..

This is all interesting but I don't get what it means. Like, is it still in development with the same engine as bbs, just in 3d, or is the actual game being made with its own 3d engine?

This is all interesting but I don't get what it means. Like, is it still in development with the same engine as bbs, just in 3d, or is the actual game being made with its own 3d engine?

 

The game itself is going to be using its own engine, this only proves that the TRAILER was made using the BBS engine.

The gameplay videos tough, were most likely done in a 3ds.

Way too iteresting. I mean that means that they were already planning to make 3D near the end of developing for BBS. Also there are some hints in the way that they were put. I mean TVA replaced each by SRK and more interesting the Vanitas that came from MX was VANITAS LINGERING SPIRIT!! What could that mean?? It's kind of scary and confusing but WAY TOO INTERESTING!!!

Congrats for the finding!!

 

The replacements were entirely Key to Truths doing. He does this sort of thing a lot

 

This proves that DDD could've been ran on a psp. But SE just switch the console for more money.. And one of those animations where Sora is jumping is from last year at that Nintendo World thing, where Sora attacks the Twilight Thorn.

 

DDD could have run on the PSP, yes. I could also have run on the Nintendo 64, or the NES. The 3DS is superior to the PSP, and DDD will almost definitely make use of it. For example, it doesn't so much matter what models are present in KH, what's really important is the lighting, which is what makes them look good. the 3DS can do lighting better than a PSP. Even if the GRAPHICS aren't upgraded for the 3DS, there are many other features only the 3DS offers. What if DDD needs a touchscreen? What if it actually has a good use of the 3D effect? Even beyond that, I'm happy having KH on the 3DS simply for the fact that its cartridges hold drastically more data than a UMD, so DDD can have more content/voice acting.

Also, I'd like to point out that Square Enix switching systems doesn't make them mroe money. They don't get any profits for the systems getting sold. Square makes the same money no matter what they do (Obviously depending on which console, and how many consoles, Square develops a single game for will cause variation in their profits, but you know what I mean) In fact, Square probably loses money every time they change consoles because they have to train their staff in how to work with the new system.

i dont get what this means? i have seen this everywhere but idnt understand what 'it has the BBS engine' and all the other stuff means...( ikno i probably sound dumb) lol

but can someone plz explain to me wat this means? i wuld really appreciate it thx!!

i dont get what this means? i have seen this everywhere but idnt understand what 'it has the BBS engine' and all the other stuff means...( ikno i probably sound dumb) lol

but can someone plz explain to me wat this means? i wuld really appreciate it thx!!

 

Every game has an engine. This engine determines pretty much everything about the game, and is basically a blueprint of how the game is made. A while back some data pertaining to DDD was found in BBS final mixes disk. Later, models of Sora and Riku, among others, were found. Key to Truth has proven that these models were intended to be used to recreate the DDD trailer using the ingame graphics of BBS. Basically, he proved a few things: DDD was at some point going to be advertised in BBS, and DDD (Or at least its trailer) could run on a PSP

This is awesome. Well at least we all know Kh 3D will run under a good engine with respectable graphics, unlike Days and Re:coded.