tutti frutti. Played through KH1 again and got to the part where Sora stabbed himself with the black Keyblade (Keyblade of Peoples hearts, maybe? don't know the official name) Anyway, Sora did this to awaken Kairi and help her. Since Sora did this, wouldn't Ven's heart have been released as well in the process along with Kairi's? Both Ven and Kairi's heart both went inside of Sora at different points of the series for different reasons, but if Sora wanted to release Kairi's heart to help her, why not Ven's as well in the process? Views on this.

good point...you cant release one person's heart without releasing the other right...hmm

So now Sora will be collecting the hearts of 7 princesses to get this keyblade back so he can stab himself? I like this development. But most likely there will some magical other way to extract his heart without hurting Sora.

Sorry, but that's kinda old.

I always thought that when Sora did that, he did release Ven's heart, and it manifested into Roxas, but based off of Sora's memories, since Roxas is Sora's nobody, not Ven's. And then at the end of KH2 when Roxas and Sora became one again, Sora got Ven's heart back. Just an idea though.

No, Ven's heart stayed in Sora's body and helped form it into Roxas while Sora's Heartless was given a body-like shell thanks to Kairi's powers bringing him back from the Darkness. Then at the begining of KH2, Sora and Roxas merged, with Sora's body taking it's normal form again.

I always thought that ven's hearts went into roxas's body, which is why roxas looks like ven and he has emotions. Im not sure if it's ven's heart, but roxas definitely has a heart. He got angry and smashed DiZ's computers, told DiZ he hated him, aaaand he cried when Xion died.

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What if....

 

No....

 

Vanitas......KH3D....?

 

What if it took form into Vanitas...since Ventus is STILL sleeping....Oh god that's a nice theory

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What if....

 

No....

 

Vanitas......KH3D....?

 

What if it took form into Vanitas...since Ventus is STILL sleeping....Oh god that's a nice theory

 

No.

Vanitas is probably there in the form of a nightmare.

No, Ven's heart stayed in Sora's body and helped form it into Roxas while Sora's Heartless was given a body-like shell thanks to Kairi's powers bringing him back from the Darkness. Then at the begining of KH2, Sora and Roxas merged, with Sora's body taking it's normal form again.

 

This.

I always thought that ven's hearts went into roxas's body, which is why roxas looks like ven and he has emotions. Im not sure if it's ven's heart, but roxas definitely has a heart. He got angry and smashed DiZ's computers, told DiZ he hated him, aaaand he cried when Xion died.

 

Roxas doesn't have a body, he's Sora's body with Ven's heart turned into a Nobody.

Sorry, but that's kinda old.

 

Yeah pretty much.

Roxas doesn't have a body, he's Sora's body with Ven's heart turned into a Nobody.

 

Eh? Roxas and Sora exist at the same time for a year in separate bodies, how can they both have the one body?

Sora didn't have a body per-say. It was a body-like vessel that kairi created in KH1, that was what that light was. In reality, he was still technically a Heartless throughout the rest of KH1 and all of CoM.

Sora didn't have a body per-say. It was a body-like vessel that kairi created in KH1, that was what that light was. In reality, he was still technically a Heartless throughout the rest of KH1 and all of CoM.

 

??? First time I've heard something like that! I just always assumed they had two separate bodies. Ventus and Vanitas had two bodies after all...

That's because it was Ven's heart split in two, light and darkness. However, when Roxas was created, Sora got turned into a Heartless, the little shadow we played as in KH1. His body, soul, and Ven's heart formed Roxas, his Nobody. When Sora's Heartless made it back to Kairi, she unknowingly used her Princess of Heart powers to craft a body-like shell for Sora's heart, since his body had turned into Roxas. You can't just have another body at will, Kairi created one from her light, while Roxas was Sora's real body. When they merged in KH2, Sora got his body back and the shell Kairi created dissappeared. It's true that there isn't really anything that I read that states it, but it's an educated guess from my knowledge of the series. If new bodies could be created out of thin air, Xehanort wouldn't have needed to possess Terra, he could have just crafted himself a younger body and move into it.

I always thought that ven's hearts went into roxas's body, which is why roxas looks like ven and he has emotions. Im not sure if it's ven's heart, but roxas definitely has a heart. He got angry and smashed DiZ's computers, told DiZ he hated him, aaaand he cried when Xion died.

 

I thought about that after I played bbs. For me, that makes sense. I always felt that Roxas had a heart.

That's because it was Ven's heart split in two, light and darkness. However, when Roxas was created, Sora got turned into a Heartless, the little shadow we played as in KH1. His body, soul, and Ven's heart formed Roxas, his Nobody. When Sora's Heartless made it back to Kairi, she unknowingly used her Princess of Heart powers to craft a body-like shell for Sora's heart, since his body had turned into Roxas. You can't just have another body at will, Kairi created one from her light, while Roxas was Sora's real body. When they merged in KH2, Sora got his body back and the shell Kairi created dissappeared. It's true that there isn't really anything that I read that states it, but it's an educated guess from my knowledge of the series. If new bodies could be created out of thin air, Xehanort wouldn't have needed to possess Terra, he could have just crafted himself a younger body and move into it.

 

the world cards in CoM were made from Sora's memories, which he wouldn't have without his heart, so Sora still has his memories even after he was a heartless. Plus, he would need a heart to control the keyblade. Roxas has Ven's heart, which is why he has a keyblade. Xion's keyblade was a fake because her heart was fake.

the world cards in CoM were made from Sora's memories, which he wouldn't have without his heart, so Sora still has his memories even after he was a heartless. Plus, he would need a heart to control the keyblade. Roxas has Ven's heart, which is why he has a keyblade. Xion's keyblade was a fake because her heart was fake.

 

A Heartless is made up of a heart, so Sora still had his own, he didn't need Ven's. So that really had nothing to do with anything in my previous post.

A Heartless is made up of a heart, so Sora still had his own, he didn't need Ven's. So that really had nothing to do with anything in my previous post.

 

Were not saying that Sora ever lost his heart, were saying that Sora lost Ven's heart when he let Kairi's out. And i don't think that Kairi could just make another body for Sora. That's kind of ridiculous. Maybe Sora getting his body back is because of the same reason that Kairi still had her body when Namine was alive.

Were not saying that Sora ever lost his heart, were saying that Sora lost Ven's heart when he let Kairi's out. And i don't think that Kairi could just make another body for Sora. That's kind of ridiculous. Maybe Sora getting his body back is because of the same reason that Kairi still had her body when Namine was alive.

 

I don't think you read my post well enough, I said Kairi didn't create another body for him, I said she created a body-like shell to house his heart, as Roxas was Sora's body. He didn't get his body back until KH2. And Sora didn't lose Ven's heart, it stayed in his body when Roxas was created, thus the reason why Roxas had Ven's heart and appearance. If Ven's heart ever left Sora's body, it would have gone straight back to Ven, like the hearts of the 7 Princesses when they were freed.

Sorry, but that's kinda old.

 

You have no right to say that's kinda old when you post pointless and old stuff. Just saying.

I don't think you read my post well enough, I said Kairi didn't create another body for him, I said she created a body-like shell to house his heart, as Roxas was Sora's body. He didn't get his body back until KH2. And Sora didn't lose Ven's heart, it stayed in his body when Roxas was created, thus the reason why Roxas had Ven's heart and appearance. If Ven's heart ever left Sora's body, it would have gone straight back to Ven, like the hearts of the 7 Princesses when they were freed.

 

Ven's heart couldn't have just went back to ven's body. Master Eraqus said that the only person who could navigate through Castle Oblivion and find Ven's body is Aqua, so im pretty sure that includes Ven's heart. And if Ven's heart stayed in Sora's body when Roxas was created, then it would affect Roxas, so Roxas would look like Sora, not Ven. One of the biggest things that separates Roxas from the rest of the Organization is that he's the only one who looks like a person other than his Somebody, so there's obviously gotta be a reason for that, which is that he has Ven's heart. Another thing that separates them is that Roxas has emotions, which you need a heart to have. That was the whole point of Xemnas trying to collect all those hearts and make Kingdom Hearts.

Ven's heart couldn't have just went back to ven's body. Master Eraqus said that the only person who could navigate through Castle Oblivion and find Ven's body is Aqua, so im pretty sure that includes Ven's heart. And if Ven's heart stayed in Sora's body when Roxas was created, then it would affect Roxas, so Roxas would look like Sora, not Ven. One of the biggest things that separates Roxas from the rest of the Organization is that he's the only one who looks like a person other than his Somebody, so there's obviously gotta be a reason for that, which is that he has Ven's heart. Another thing that separates them is that Roxas has emotions, which you need a heart to have. That was the whole point of Xemnas trying to collect all those hearts and make Kingdom Hearts.

 

You seem to forget that a Nobody is created FROM THE PERSON'S BODY AND SOUL! So Roxas was created from Sora's body. Ven's heart stayed inside and changed it to look like Ven, which is why Roxas looks like Ven and not Sora. I'm not saying that Roxas doesn't have Ven's heart, but that he does. I'm saying Ven's heart stayed in Sora's body when it became his Nobody, Roxas. That is how Roxas has Ven's heart. Also, Ven's heart is connected to his body, so it could find it's way back to his body, it doesn't have to navigate through Castle Oblivion to do so.

You seem to forget that a Nobody is created FROM THE PERSON'S BODY AND SOUL! So Roxas was created from Sora's body. Ven's heart stayed inside and changed it to look like Ven, which is why Roxas looks like Ven and not Sora. I'm not saying that Roxas doesn't have Ven's heart, but that he does. I'm saying Ven's heart stayed in Sora's body when it became his Nobody, Roxas. That is how Roxas has Ven's heart. Also, Ven's heart is connected to his body, so it could find it's way back to his body, it doesn't have to navigate through Castle Oblivion to do so.

 

What does the Nobodies being made from people's bodies have to do with anything? I said that I don't know why Sora randomly got his body back. Just like with MX, he couldn't come back until his heartless AND his Nobody were destroyed. If you mean that Sora's body turned into Roxas's, then I don't know how Sora got a second body, but I don't think Ven's heart could just decide to stay inside of it. The Keyblade of people's Hearts extracts people's hearts. ALL of them. Ven's isn't an exception. And Ven's heart couldn't just find Castle Oblivion and get in the Room of Awakening. That's like looking for a needle in a never-ending haystack that's in another never-ending haystack. It would've gotten lost in oblivion forever, which is suicide.

What does the Nobodies being made from people's bodies have to do with anything? I said that I don't know why Sora randomly got his body back. Just like with MX, he couldn't come back until his heartless AND his Nobody were destroyed. If you mean that Sora's body turned into Roxas's, then I don't know how Sora got a second body, but I don't think Ven's heart could just decide to stay inside of it. The Keyblade of people's Hearts extracts people's hearts. ALL of them. Ven's isn't an exception. And Ven's heart couldn't just find Castle Oblivion and get in the Room of Awakening. That's like looking for a needle in a never-ending haystack that's in another never-ending haystack. It would've gotten lost in oblivion forever, which is suicide.

 

Bodies and Hearts are connected. It's like how when a Heartless and Nobody are destroyed and thier body and heart combine again. They don't go searching for eachother, they just meet. Also, nowhere does it say that that the Keyblade of People's Hearts extracts all the hearts in someone. Ansem/Riku used it on Maleficent and it didn't extract her heart, it turned her into the dragon. And Sora doesn't get a second body, he gets a body-LIKE shell. Not an actual body, but a shell to hold his heart temporarily until he got his body back from Roxas.

Bodies and Hearts are connected. It's like how when a Heartless and Nobody are destroyed and thier body and heart combine again. They don't go searching for eachother, they just meet. Also, nowhere does it say that that the Keyblade of People's Hearts extracts all the hearts in someone. Ansem/Riku used it on Maleficent and it didn't extract her heart, it turned her into the dragon. And Sora doesn't get a second body, he gets a body-LIKE shell. Not an actual body, but a shell to hold his heart temporarily until he got his body back from Roxas.

 

I never said the Keyblade of People's Hearts only had one purpose. Extracting people's hearts is only one of them, and im sure it has a loot more. And by saying it extracts all hearts, I meant that it could be used on anyone, including Ven. And again, I doubt Kairi can make him a "body-like shell". Especially by hugging him. Thats cheesy. And if she can make this "shell" you speak of, she should have just made him an actual body. And it never said that Sora got a "body-like shell".