In response to the Christian thread. I have nothing against you guys, but I figure it might be a good idea to have the other end of the spectrum so you guys don't get flamed. Speaking of which, if you are religious please don't flame this thread and those of you who are on this thread please don't flame the other one.

Edited May 9, 201213 yr by Dragoncat

 

 

Well it felt like they were.

 

They weren't tho

The Bible was either created as a way to get people to behave in a certain manner or was created by a bunch of people who had 'dreams' about God and then Jesus was a poor b****** (not even sure if I'm allowed to say that word in that context on the site) who was created when Mary 'the virgin' did the nasty behind Joseph's back and he so wanted it to be the 'Son of God' like she said, that he had a delusional dream about an angel. And then afterwards...pretty sure a lot of parts were made up.

Incorrect, the Bible is essentially a history book of all of the religious events and origins of teachings before, during, and after the the life of Jesus. It has been proven multiple times that historical events in the Bible, such as the mass Exodus of Jews from Egypt have happened. The Romans did keep meticulous records about the people they executed and Jesus Christ had a rather large section about his execution. Geologist have also determined that there have been floods on the scale of the great flood in the past, to the point where archaeologist have discovered destroyed villages at the bottom of the Mediterranean sea.

 

And my biggest reason for being an atheist comes from the part where in the Bible it says what the criteria is for heaven. Basically, it says anyone who believes in God will be forgiven of their crimes and allowed into heaven, anybody who doesn't will not be forgiven and sent to hell. Sorry, but that's basically saying if a mass murder believes in God, he'll go to heaven but a scientist who has dedicated his life to making the world a better place and succeeded but doesn't believe in God will go to hell. I can't accept that and I think from that, we could easily say the reason for our existence is to worship God. That's it.

Um, no. You couldn't be more wrong. The criteria for going into heaven is to follow the Ten Commandments. While one of those commandments is not to worship any other God, one rule broken isn't going to damn you to hell. Also, people who simply don't know much about Catholicism are spared from that rule. The rule is only broken if you know a lot about Catholicism but intentionally chose not to follow it, and even then it is the least severe "crime" of all. Lying actually would give you more "hell points" as I like to call them. Basically not believing in God is the equivalent to Jaywalking. It's "illegal" (by catholic standards) but there is nothing you can do to stop it form happening, it's not really a big deal, and nobody is going to put in you jail (hell) for it. Also, Catholicism is heavily based around forgiveness. You could be the most despicable person on Earth but if you were truly sorry for what you did, even if you didn't believe in God, you would go to Heaven. There is also purgatory, where you are given a chance to ask for forgiveness/change your ways before your final judgement.

 

 

As for life after death...I want there to be one and I think that desire inspires stuff like religion. But that being said, the idea of a heaven actually scares me more than hell. Immortality, living forever seems scary in many ways and then apparantely it's peaceful. I don't understand that, it can't be peaceful, there would be some sort of riot. Unless God is brain washing us to be happy kind people who never complain. At least in hell, you can be yourself. So, I hope for maybe becoming a ghost or something similar or perhaps rebirth. But then, nothingness is somewhat comforting in its own way. It's not like we'll actually feel the discomfort.

 

So you are more worried about living forever with absolutely no worries, problems, and everything you could possibly desire than living forever being constantly tortured by a big red guy that obtains sexual pleasure from shoving sharp objects up your ass? Ok, that makes sense. And rioting, what? Do you even know why people riot? People riot when they don't get what they want, so in a realm where people always get what they want as a reward for being generally good, then there will be no riots. Do you even know what you are talking about in general? Your whole post seems to be dedicated to bashing religion when you hardly know what you are saying.

I'm an atheist, I wish to had some faith but I can't see myself having it.

Has it really been 3 years? Dat necro-post.

Has it really been 3 years? Dat necro-post.

 

I can smell the banhammers of back then /shot

I can smell the banhammers of back then /shot

*bans*

 

Nope, not an atheist. 

Holy crap, this thread is resurrected.

Christian> Atheism

In response to the Christian thread. I have nothing against you guys, but I figure it might be a good idea to have the other end of the spectrum so you guys don't get flamed. Speaking of which, if you are religious please don't flame this thread and those of you who are on this thread please don't flame the other one.

It's complicated.

I'm an atheist, I wish to had some faith but I can't see myself having it.

How long did you have to dig through old threads to find this?