OK, let's see. After finally seeing the whole translations of "KH: 3D" scenes and understanding the whole story, there has been a few things that came to my mind and I want to share them with you. Let's see:

 

1º) The 7 Lights: There's a lot of discussion about the identities of these characters, but for me it's perfectly clear who they will be. The three original heroes (Terra, Aqua and Ventus), their "successors" (Riku, Kairi and Sora) and the one who connects both "generations" (Mickey). It's that simple. However, considering how Kairi has two roles (Princess of Heart and Protector of Light), who can assure us that there's only 7 of them? I explain in another part.

 

2º) The 13 Darknesses: It's really creepy that the New Organization XIII is formed by Xehanort's copies. Anyway, there's a few clues that can help us to identify who are the members of this new group. There are already 6 confirmed members: Master Xehanort, Young Xehanort, Ansem SoD, Xenmas, Xigbar and Saix. Who can be the other 6 non-revealed members and who will fill the 13th role after they failed to corrupt Sora? Let's see, all Xehanort's forms share two features: golden-yellow eyes and pointed ears. From the 13 members of the first Org XIII, only three of them (Xenmas, Saix and Xigbar) had those features; and they are been confirmed as members of the new Organization. Xaldin also had the pointed heads, but since he returned to be Dilan, I guess he saved himself from Xehanort's influence. However, it's obvious that the resistance to Xehanort's corruption left him exahusted. The rest of the members didn't have those features, so I think we can discard the "unseen-four" (Marluxia, Larxene, Demyx and Luxord) as possible members of the new Organization. As another possibility, since the battle against these guys will be the end of Xehanort's saga, I guess an epic end could be gathering ALL the main villains from the past as members of this new group, plus some extra surprises. See these candidates:

+ Master Eraqus: OK, this sounds weird, but I thought about it after remembering something. In Birth by Sleep, after Master Xehanort ended Master Eraqus, it's believed that his heart was transfered to Terra. So, if Master Eraqus' heart is inside Terra, that left his body empty. So I doubt Master Xehanort would let escape the chance of using this body (or Nobody) as his vessel.

+ Terra: Well, I think this was the first one in becoming a vessel for Master Xehanort, so this could be perfectly another of the non-seen-members of the new Organization XIII. However, if Terra is going to be one of the 7 Lights, I guess the good guys should recover Terra's body in order to bring him back, don't you think? It's a little confusing, honestly.

+ Vanitas: Considering he was Master Xehanort's apprentice in the whole plot from BbS, it's very possible MX used Vanitas as another of his vessels. Yeah, we saw him being destroyed, or did we? Light and darkness can't exist without each other, so if Ventus (light) survived to his last battle, I think it's obvious Vanitas did as well. Vanitas' yellow eyes can make more probable this idea, considering it's one of the features of all Master Xehanort's selves. Besides, for the big final battle, it would made possible to bring the Unversed as enemies again.

+ Absent Silhouettes and Data Replicas of the Org XIII: These were challenges from the Final Mix version of "Kingdom Hearts II", but it has been proven before that the Final Mix versions usually have cannon clues about what will happen in the future. The Unknown battle in KH FM (Xenmas), the Lingering Will battle in KHII FM (Terra) and the Unknown battle in KH BbS FM (Young Xehanort) are good examples. So these challenges from KH II FM could also work for the main continuity. I mean, these were replicas from the members of the first Org XIII, so Master Xehanort could use them perfectly as vessels for his new Organization. If we see more past members in the new Organization, these could work as an explanation about how is it possible. Don't you think?

+ Anti Black Coat: From all the Nightmares, this is the one who most confuses me. "A physical manifestation of the nightmare that Sora experiences while trapped in sleep". Honestly, I think this could work as the big leader of the others Nightmares. If Master Xehanort use it as one of his vessels, he could bring the Nightmares Dream Eaters for the big final battle.

 

3º) 7 Lights vs 13 Darknesses: Honestly, I don't find fair this. The good guys are outnumbered here, and if it was already hard enough to fight against just one at the time, each hero would have to fight against two Xehanorts at the same time. For a better way to defeat the new Organization XIII, I think there will be more that 7 protectors. The Trinity from the past (Ventus, Terra, Aqua), the Trinity from the present (Sora, Riku, Kairi) and the hero who connects them (Mickey) could get extra help from the others Keyblade Heroes we have seen in the series. Those would be the hurted Trinity (Roxas, Axel and Xion), the replicas of the main heroes (Data Sora and Riku Replica) and Namine (since she's Kairi's Nobody, she could use the Keyblade like Kairi; just like Roxas can use because he's Sora's Nobody). With these 6 extra heroes and the 7 protectors, we will have 13 Lights against the 13 Darknesses. A more equal fight, don't you think?

 

I have more to comment, but it would make the post too long. So I will wait to some answers and opinions, then I will post the rest.

Wow you wrote a lot of stuff, but it's very interesting and cool! I don't know if someone thought about it, but like: 7 Princess + 7 Protectors = 14, but Kairi is both Princess and Protector, so 13! That would be 13 against 13 but wouldn't be fair anyway, 6 of them are kinda useless...

 

Also, I think Lea was corrupted, but I also hope I'm wrong (somebody wrote the same thing I did a month ago)

 

What I'm really hoping is that the 7 Protectors are either the ones that appeared in the 3D Opening (Sora, Riku, Mickey, Roxas, Aqua, Terra and Ven) or all the Keyblade Wielders we know so far (Sora's Trio, Roxas's Trio, Ven's Trio, Mickey or even Eraqus, and more people I'm not sure, but it would have to be 13)

 

And personally, we had enough games already... They should make KH3 as soon as possible, no Kairi's Story or King Mickey's, or Aqua's... But if Versus doesn't get finished any time soon, i wouldn't matter to have a BbS Volume 2(BbS2 forms a heart LOL) I'm dying to know what happens to everyone!

 

"Everyone is ready for the battle at the Keyblade Graveyard:

Sora says: -You know something, Xehanort? It's not fair 7 against 13! It should be an equal number of people!

Xehanort: -Did you believe that? It was just a trick so Darkness would win!

-NO!!! That's not fair!!!"

I forgot to say this but... Possible Spoilers? The whole post was a huge spoiler!

Wow you said alot of interesting stuff I agree with the whole 13 vs 13 thing with Kairi being both

 

as I suspect, Roxas is the 7th

 

 

I hate to say it but in my opinion I just dont see Roxas making a physical comeback, think about it Nomura stated that Roxas was a special nobody because he held Ventus' heart so if they bring Ventus back Roxas would then just be an ordinary nobody which would mean that for him to be created again Sora would have to become a heartless again.

Not necessarily. Namine was created when Kairi's heart left Sora's body, so Roxas could be re-created when Ven's heart leaves Sora. Besides Sora wants Roxas to be his own person, and Sora always gets his way.

Not necessarily. Namine was created when Kairi's heart left Sora's body, so Roxas could be re-created when Ven's heart leaves Sora. Besides Sora wants Roxas to be his own person, and Sora always gets his way.

 

Oh yea thats true

I know what I said but I wouldnt really mind if he comes back as long as they can explain it cuz Roxas is one of my favorite keyblade wielders behind Riku and tied with Terra

Edited July 8, 201213 yr by Allpro11414

Too much to read

But it was a good theory.

Oh yea thats true

I know what I said but I wouldnt really mind if he comes back as long as they can explain it cuz Roxas is one of my favorite keyblade wielders behind Riku and tied with Terra

 

Well, seeing as Nobodies grow hearts now, it shouldn't be too hard to bring him back...put some things in about how Roxas had no memories, and so the heart he grew was original and his, yet he was still connected to Sora...it could happen. It would be a little obnoxious to have Roxas and Ven though.

 

But apparently, since Xemnas is unique enough to come back and be one of the thirteen darknesses, I don't see why Roxas can't be a light I mean Xehanort is almost cheating using his heartless and his nobody.

The first heart fragment implanted in Lea didnt work when he didnt even have a heart . I doubt it will work the second time ( and thats IF he wasnt able to block it and thats a BIG if ) . Especially since he did indeed block it with chackrams and fire...Plus it seems to appear that a certain level of darkness is needed to actually make a successful vessel which is why so many original Org members were failed vessels.

 

This Lea would more likely be a gaurdian of light rather then kiari imo.

and thats IF he wasnt able to block it and thats a BIG if

 

Terra could take a few lessons from Lea...lol

Well, seeing as Nobodies grow hearts now, it shouldn't be too hard to bring him back...put some things in about how Roxas had no memories, and so the heart he grew was original and his, yet he was still connected to Sora...it could happen. It would be a little obnoxious to have Roxas and Ven though.

 

But apparently, since Xemnas is unique enough to come back and be one of the thirteen darknesses, I don't see why Roxas can't be a light I mean Xehanort is almost cheating using his heartless and his nobody.

 

Exactly, I'm betting that there's a very good chance that Roxas is coming back. The ending of DDD when Sora and Roxas talk to each other really made me think that Sora might release Roxas's heart when he releases Ven's. The problem is, Roxas doesn't have a body anymore, his body became Sora. But if a Body can grow a Heart, maybe a Heart can grow a Body. So that's really the only thing I can see that would keep Roxas from coming back.

Terra could take a few lessons from Lea...lol

 

That and Terra had too much darkness which seems to be a big thing with making a successful vessel ...Dem chackrams are badass;)

 

This Lea would more likely be a gaurdian of light rather then kiari imo.

 

 

Im unsure on Kairi not being one ..Theres a good chance of her and Lea both being one ,

Edited July 9, 201213 yr by Flaming Lea

Exactly, I'm betting that there's a very good chance that Roxas is coming back. The ending of DDD when Sora and Roxas talk to each other really made me think that Sora might release Roxas's heart when he releases Ven's. The problem is, Roxas doesn't have a body anymore, his body became Sora. But if a Body can grow a Heart, maybe a Heart can grow a Body. So that's really the only thing I can see that would keep Roxas from coming back.

 

We don't know if Roxas grew his own heart yet.

We don't know if Roxas grew his own heart yet.

 

Oh, sorry, I didn't make that too clear. Of course I know it hasn't been said whether or not he has a heart, I was talking about what would happen IF he had a heart. I just didn't clarify that.

My concern with Roxas being made his own person is : Isnt he basicly half of Soras power? So even if he was seperated with his own heart both Sora and him would each be half powered technically.Or does having a seperate heart change that ?

Edited July 9, 201213 yr by Flaming Lea

We don't know if Roxas grew his own heart yet.

 

Well...that's true. It could have just been Ven's, as we've theorized. I don't know about the Sora-Ventus-Roxas thing, as all their personalities are pretty similar...I rememebr Nomura sayinghe distinctly made Namine, Kairi, and Xion's personalities different despite looking alike, so who knows

 

I find it funny that at first, they made it seem like it was okay for them to go back, and now they are building all of this sympathy for them...

 

 

My concern with Roxas being made his own person is : Isnt he basicly half of Soras power? So even if he was seperated with his own heart both Sora and him would each be half powered technically.Or does having a seperate heart change that ?

 

Yeah, I assumed they'd have to figure some way to make Roxas completely whole or something before he could come back. Roxas may have his own heart, but at the moment, he is definately Sora's Nobody and half of his power. They can't really coexist...hm...I wonder what Ansem's data has to say about this...

Edited July 9, 201213 yr by deathrebirthsenshi

Well...that's true. It could have just been Ven's, as we've theorized. I don't know about the Sora-Ventus-Roxas thing, as all their personalities are pretty similar...I rememebr Nomura sayinghe distinctly made Namine, Kairi, and Xion's personalities different despite looking alike, so who knows

 

I find it funny that at first, they made it seem like it was okay for them to go back, and now they are building all of this sympathy for them...

 

 

Yeah, I assumed they'd have to figure some way to make Roxas completely whole or something before he could come back. Roxas may have his own heart, but at the moment, he is definately Sora's Nobody and half of his power. They can't really coexist...hm...I wonder what Ansem's data has to say about this...

 

Nomura has confirmed that Roxas has Ven's heart.

My concern with Roxas being made his own person is : Isnt he basicly half of Soras power? So even if he was seperated with his own heart both Sora and him would each be half powered technically.Or does having a seperate heart change that ?

 

I was actually thinking about that myself. I don't think that them both having their own hearts will change anything, because they're going to be two separate hearts, but they'll probably still have the "Sora connection". But what I was thinking was that if Roxas were to become his own person, would he try to take Sora's body again (lol)? Or will Roxas create his own body similar to sora in CoM? Maybe YenSid has a stock of young boy's bodies laying in his tower?

Nomura has confirmed that Roxas has Ven's heart.

 

True story

True story

 

yeppers

Nomura has confirmed that Roxas has Ven's heart.

 

Proof or didn't happen! Jk jk

True story

 

...Nomura...confirmed something!? O_O

I was actually thinking about that myself. I don't think that them both having their own hearts will change anything, because they're going to be two separate hearts, but they'll probably still have the "Sora connection". But what I was thinking was that if Roxas were to become his own person, would he try to take Sora's body again (lol)? Or will Roxas create his own body similar to sora in CoM? Maybe YenSid has a stock of young boy's bodies laying in his tower?

 

I'm starting to wonder just how important bodies are. I mean, if you think about it, Vanitas shouldn't have had a body when he was taken from Ventus, but he did. And Namine came into existance and apparently just made a new body. And Sora was made a new body by Kairi...so really, the issue is more about sharing hearts than bodies

You never know when little boy bodies might come in handy...lol

Proof or didn't happen! Jk jk

 

Do you really want to start ryan

Do you really want to start ryan

 

Me? Start anything? What?!!! No! lmao

...Nomura...confirmed something!? O_O

I'm starting to wonder just how important bodies are. I mean, if you think about it, Vanitas shouldn't have had a body when he was taken from Ventus, but he did. And Namine came into existance and apparently just made a new body. And Sora was made a new body by Kairi...so really, the issue is more about sharing hearts than bodies

You never know when little boy bodies might come in handy...lol

 

They made such a big deal about Roxas containing half Soras power and that he just HAD to go back , yanno?

 

Also I couldnt resist ..Nomuras words :

 

 

 

 

Q1: Why do Roxas and Ventus look alike?

 

A: Because inside Sora, which is Roxas’ body, is Ventus’ heart. As was shown in the opening to BbS and the ending to Last Episode, Sora and Ventus’ heart are linked. And so Roxas, who is a part of Sora, was affected by that and looks just like Ventus.

 

Q2: Why did Roxas faint in Castle Oblivion on Day 297?

 

A: Because he had gotten to close to both Sora and Ventus, his “real self”.Before Day 297 in Days Sora had been to Castle Oblivion, as well as the fact that Ventus is asleep somewhere in the Room of Awakening. Both Sora and Ventus can be called Roxas’ “real selves”, and when he felt their presence it made him faint.

 

Q3 is basically the same question as 1 confirming Roxas has Ven's heart

 

Q4: Why can Roxas dual-wield?

 

A: Because he can use both Sora’s and Ventus’ keyblades. Sora can wield two keyblades at once because he has Ventus’ as well as his own. As Roxas is a part of Sora, he also can use two. In Days Roxas awakened his ability to dual wield after fighting Xion. In KHII once
Sora absorbs him, he can also dual-wield.

They made such a big deal about Roxas containing half Soras power and that he just HAD to go back , yanno?

 

Also I couldnt resist ..Nomuras words :

 

 

 

 

Q1: Why do Roxas and Ventus look alike?

 

A: Because inside Sora, which is Roxas’ body, is Ventus’ heart. As was shown in the opening to BbS and the ending to Last Episode, Sora and Ventus’ heart are linked. And so Roxas, who is a part of Sora, was affected by that and looks just like Ventus.

 

Q2: Why did Roxas faint in Castle Oblivion on Day 297?

 

A: Because he had gotten to close to both Sora and Ventus, his “real self”.Before Day 297 in Days Sora had been to Castle Oblivion, as well as the fact that Ventus is asleep somewhere in the Room of Awakening. Both Sora and Ventus can be called Roxas’ “real selves”, and when he felt their presence it made him faint.

 

Q3 is basically the same question as 1 confirming Roxas has Ven's heart

 

Q4: Why can Roxas dual-wield?

 

A: Because he can use both Sora’s and Ventus’ keyblades. Sora can wield two keyblades at once because he has Ventus’ as well as his own. As Roxas is a part of Sora, he also can use two. In Days Roxas awakened his ability to dual wield after fighting Xion. In KHII once
Sora absorbs him, he can also dual-wield.

 

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