Let`s compare the design and flow of the first worlds in the major KH games throughout the series, shall we?

 

KH1- Wonderland

Opens to cutscene . Goal is to follow rabbit

Leave room, trigger cutscene, teh rabbit has shrunk

You must drink a potion to shrink

Defend Alice is court by collecting evidence, optionally finding an extra piece of evidence will get you the blizzard spell early

Finding evidence requires interacting with the environment, spinning a large tree or landing on a tree stump

Optionally, you can get better items by feeding items to flowers

Win or lose, you must fight cards, but the more evidence you find, the more likely you are to convict the heartless, doing therwise causes you to lose Donald and Goofy for the fight

Alice is missing, new goal is to find Alice

Optionally, you can interact with various chairs in the Tea Party Garden to get items and fight heartless

You must turn on candles that hang from the ceiling of the room you start in

Returning causes the Trickmaster Heartless to appear

Defeating the Trickmaster will give you the blizzard spell, if you haven`t already gotten it

It is revealed that Alice has been stolen by the heartless and the keyblade automatically locks the keyhole of the world

You then use a save point to leave the world

(Getting the blizzard spell allows you to douse fires in various areas)

 

KH2- Land of Dragons

Opens to cutscene. Goal is to help Ping by entering the military with her

Must engage in three missions where you fight heartless, however, if you take too much damage, the mission fails

Final mission is given to clear the way from one outpost to the next

Success allows all party members to join the military, but Ping remains under scrutiny

Mushu tells party members to explore a cave, thinking they will find and defeat Shan-Yu

A trap is sprung, Sora and Ping must defeat a wave of enemies

Shan-Yu destroys the village, injures military captain Shang, Ping insists on going after Shan-Yu

Shan-Yu sends a swarm of heartless, a battle begins with the goal being to survive for the duration of the time limit

Ping defeats Shan-Yu but is discovered to be a woman and is dismissed

Ping becomes Mulan, unlocking much better moves for the party member

Mulan discovers that Shan-Yu has survived, goal is now to warn Shang

Sora and party covers Shang while he escapes, then follow him

Shan-Yu holds emperor hostage, but is knocked away by Shang

Party must defeat Shang without letting the palace gates be breached

Victory leads to a cutscene, Sora unlocks a keyhole that was hidden in Shan-Yu`s sword, and the world automatically ends, with the Hidden Dragon keyblade as a reward

 

BBS: Terra- Enchnated Dominion

Terra arrives in world, fights some enemies, one gets away

Chases enemy to a bridge, finds Maleficent. Maleficent tells him to visit Princess Aurora in the castle

Terra unlocks a barrier on the door to Aurora`s room

Terra finds Aurora and is tricked into thinking he released her heart

An boss appears, which Terra must defeat

Upon defeating the monster, Terra leaves the world automatically, getting the fairy Star keyblade as a reward

 

BBS: Ventus- Dwarf Woodlands

Ventus arrives in world, see Dwarves and gives chase

Upon finding them, he leaves and finds Snow White in the forest

Ventus must defend Snow White and get her to the Dwarve`s house

Upon doing that, he must go back to the forest and fight a boss

Upon defeating the boss, a cutscene plays and Ventyus leaves the world automatically, getting the Treasure Trove keyblade as a reward

 

BBS: Aqua- Castle of dreams

Aqua arrives in the world, meets Terra, goal is to look around for Xehanort

Aqua senses darkness in Cinderella`s step family

Follows to their house, prepares to take them out through force, Fairy Godmother appears and shrinks her

Meets Jaq, must defend him while he brings a key from one end of the room to the other

Aqua stalls the slipper test long enough for Cinderella to get a turn

The step monster summons a monster, which kills the mother and both sisters

Aqua fights monster

Upon defeating the monster, a cutscene plays and Aqua leave the world automatically, the Midnight Stroke keyblade is the reward for completing the world

 

DDD: Sora- La Cite de Cloches

Sora arrives in world, finds out about monsters, goes to fight, Quaisomodo is there, but he escapes with a Esmerelda

Sora goes to the place where Quaismodo is, decides to go to the gypsy camp

Goes to the gypsy camp, Esmerelda is captured and taken to the square

Sora goes to square and fights a monster

Upon defeating the monster, a cutscene plays and Sora leaves the world automatically, getting the Guardian Bell keyblade as a reward

 

DDD: Riku- La Cite de Cloches

Riku arrives in world, sees Esmerelda but doesn`t give up her position to Frollo

Visits Quaismodo and tells him to do things he wants to do

Is chased by the boss

At the end of the chase, he meets Pheobus and fights some monsters, then returns to main area where he fights the boss

Upon defeating the boss, a cutscene plays and Riku leaves the world automatically, getting the Guardian Bell keyblade as a reward

 

Man have things gotten simple

http://kh13.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.png

Yeah the worlds in KH1 and KH2 were really long and kinda tiring >_>

Just wait for KH3, though.

http://kh13.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.png

Yeah the worlds in KH1 and KH2 were really long and kinda tiring >_>

Just wait for KH3, though.

 

They also had things to do, and unique gimmicks that actually made each world seem different...

Can the fact that BBS and DDD are handheld games be used as an excuse for why the worlds are so short?

Hm. I can agree that they simpled it down a lot, but they were pushing the limits of the data capacity as it was with DDD and, I'm assuming, BBS. There's really only so much you can put in a world when the amount of available data is that much smaller.

Edited October 8, 201213 yr by Jim

Can the fact that BBS and DDD are handheld games be used as an excuse for why the worlds are so short?

 

Hm. I can agree that they simpled it down a lot, but they were pushing the limits of the data capacity as it was with DDD and, I'm assuming, BBS. There's really only so much you can put in a world when the amount of available data is that much smaller.

 

No, that`s not the case at all. The PSP is somewhere between the PS1 and the PS2 in terms of power, and the disks can hold 1.7 GB which is enough to fit the original Kingdom Hearts, and nearly enough to fit KH2 (Though they would have be downgraded anyways, as they would be too advanced for the PSP to run properly)

The 3DS is more powerful than the Wii, and the cartridges can hold 4 GB, in other words, enough to fit KH1 and 2 AND run it, in theory (This wouldn`t REALLY work because the 3DS runs so dfferently in comparison to the PS2, but it should be possible with enough modification)

Basically, while BBS has SOME excuse for being smaller than KH1 and 2, DDD does not (Yet the worlds are smaller than the BBS ones... and there are less of them... and BBS had three visits to worlds, while DDD only has two)

And beyond that, KH1 and KH2 had variety for reasons that were not resource intensive. They used text cutscenes and alternate forms of interaction to make things happen, while later games simply have combat

So this is first disney-based worlds right? Not just worlds in general.

So this is first disney-based worlds right? Not just worlds in general.

 

First REAL world. The worlds before the ones I listed are more or less strictly based around tutorial, and aren`t particularly worth comparing

First REAL world. The worlds before the ones I listed are more or less strictly based around tutorial, and aren`t particularly worth comparing

 

Yeah, I guess so.

They also had things to do, and unique gimmicks that actually made each world seem different...

 

So did Re: Coded and Days.

So did Re: Coded and Days.

 

Yes, but they were made by H.A.N.D.

I`m just lookign at these games because they are the ones with the consistent design philosophy

Does anybody know how much space was needed in DDD?

 

IF BBS should ever get a remake (I mean a real one) then I hope that they will add more scenes per world... and well, actually NPCs when they talk about a crowd etc..

Interaction between the main characters and others felt a bit flat and so was the friendship of Aqua, Terra and Ven. A few flashbacks would have helped.

 

Especially the world of Quasimodo. If I hadn't known about the movie I would have never understand why Esmeralda and... the knight guy whoose name I forgot, were in love and so on.

 

It is sad that the worlds become so rushed.

I actually liked the concept of the worlds in KH2.

 

Lots of things to do (while you level up like crazy) before you end the world.