Varnish 319 Posted October 27, 2013 (edited) Here is a list of things that I do not think should exist in the Pokémon series: -Under-levelled wild Pokémon (By which I mean Pokémon that are too low a level to have been evolved in training, yet they have still evolved) -Moronic fishermen who own a team of six Magikarps -All of the "vermin" Pokémon (Rattata, Zigzagoon, Bidoof, Patrat, Bunnelby, and their evolutions), excluding Sentret and its evolution, which are legitimately useful if used correctly -The ugly colouring of Ultra Balls -The moment when a Pokeball rolls three times as you try to catch a Pokémon, only for the Pokémon to break out before it is caught -The fact that Max Revives cannot be bought -The ability to buy evolutionary stones (I am aware that this has not regularly happened in the series, but evolving Pokémon with stones is meant to be a challenge, as long as what happened with them in Gold and Silver never happens again) -Endless numbers of cave Zubats -Endless numbers of sea Tentacools Edited October 27, 2013 by Varnish 8 Keyblade Guardian, SoraBlade, Noobles and 5 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted October 27, 2013 (edited) The fishermen with Magikarps are supposed to be for jokes and laughs Though I'd agree about under leveled trainers as Kanto in the Gen 2 games are full of those despite that all the Gym Leaders are Lv40 and above Weak wild encounter are much better than higher level encounters because it gains more EVs when you level it up.Example:if you raised a Lv5 Zubat up until it becomes a Lv50 crobat,it'll be stronger than a Lv 20 Zubat that got evolved just after you caught it. I personally like the design of the Ultra Ball. As for the ball shaking three times,it's supposed to create tension especially with Pokemon that have low catch rate...if the ball just shake one time and then BOOM you caught it(I know the critical catch when you play online do that) it'll be boring Max Revives shouldn't not be bought because it'll make the games more easier than they should.....just like how In Final Fantasy games Phoenix down doesn't fully heal your party member unlike another item that cannot be bought but completely heals your party member. The Rodent Pokemon are supposed to be used as an HM Slave so you won't waste a move slot on your important team member for an HM...Bidoof's evolution,Bibarel,is a great HM slaves as it learns a lot of HM moves. As for evolutionary stones,I want them to be boughtable,as finding them in every game after Gen 1 was a pain in the ass especially if you want a Vaporeon in your team Edited October 27, 2013 by Metal Snake Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoraBlade 832 Posted October 27, 2013 The fishermen with Magikarps are supposed to be for jokes and laughs Weak wild encounter are much better than higher level encounters because it gains more EVs when you level it up.Example:if you raised a Lv5 Zubat up until it becomes a Lv50 crobat,it'll be stronger than a Lv 20 Zubat that got evolved just after you caught it. I personally like the design of the Ultra Ball. As for the ball shaking three times,it's supposed to create tension especially with Pokemon that have low catch rate...if the ball just shake one time and then BOOM you caught it(I know the critical catch when you play online do that) it'll be boring Max Revives shouldn't not be bought because it'll make the games more easier than they should.....just like how In Final Fantasy games Phoenix down doesn't fully heal your party member unlike another item that cannot be bought but completely heals your party member. The Rodent Pokemon are supposed to be used as an HM Slave so you won't waste a move slot on your important team member for an HM...Bidoof's evolution,Bibarel,is a great HM slaves as it learns a lot of HM moves. As for evolutionary stones,I want them to be boughtable,as finding them in every game after Gen 1 was a pain in the ass especially if you want a Vaporeon in your team 'ey! In X and Y there's a kid who says: "I traded for an awesome pokemon!" And his only sole Pokemon is a freaking Magikarp. I laughed so hard. 2 Dio Brando and Fierce Deity Link reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
President Yoshi 313 Posted October 27, 2013 but... i like zigzagoon, hes actually a badass. the zubats and tentacools just want you to love them. SHOW SOME LOVE DAMMIT 1 Varnish reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted October 27, 2013 Also,Tentacool is good...especially when you evolve it into Tentacruel Tentacruel is one of the best Water type Pokemon in the series and it has a high Sp.Def Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Varnish 319 Posted October 27, 2013 (edited) The fishermen with Magikarps are supposed to be for jokes and laughs Though I'd agree about under leveled trainers as Kanto in the Gen 2 games are full of those despite that all the Gym Leaders are Lv40 and above Weak wild encounter are much better than higher level encounters because it gains more EVs when you level it up.Example:if you raised a Lv5 Zubat up until it becomes a Lv50 crobat,it'll be stronger than a Lv 20 Zubat that got evolved just after you caught it. I personally like the design of the Ultra Ball. As for the ball shaking three times,it's supposed to create tension especially with Pokemon that have low catch rate...if the ball just shake one time and then BOOM you caught it(I know the critical catch when you play online do that) it'll be boring Max Revives shouldn't not be bought because it'll make the games more easier than they should.....just like how In Final Fantasy games Phoenix down doesn't fully heal your party member unlike another item that cannot be bought but completely heals your party member. The Rodent Pokemon are supposed to be used as an HM Slave so you won't waste a move slot on your important team member for an HM...Bidoof's evolution,Bibarel,is a great HM slaves as it learns a lot of HM moves. As for evolutionary stones,I want them to be boughtable,as finding them in every game after Gen 1 was a pain in the ass especially if you want a Vaporeon in your team You misread what I said about under-levelled wild Pokémon, and "EVs" do absolutely nothing, for all I care. I have received Pokerus in two of my games, and neither time did they have any noticeable effect on my team members. It has never been said that the vermin were meant to be HM "slaves"; they should simply not exist. Furret is a legitimately useful team member. Buying the stones feels like cheating to me. Because Max Revives do not have an effect that is as dramatic, I think that they should be available to purchase. 'ey! In X and Y there's a kid who says: "I traded for an awesome pokemon!" And his only sole Pokemon is a freaking Magikarp. I laughed so hard. I found that to be so depressing. Edited October 27, 2013 by Varnish Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted October 27, 2013 'ey! In X and Y there's a kid who says: "I traded for an awesome pokemon!" And his only sole Pokemon is a freaking Magikarp. I laughed so hard. Exactly,Those kinds of trainers are meant to be a running joke in the games....pretty much like how every FF game has to persons named Biggs and Wedge speaking of Magikarp,if you know Marriland on youtube,he freaks out everytime he meets the 6 Magikarp Fisherman,and it's the most hilarious thing ever 1 SoraBlade reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MasterXemnas 2,285 Posted October 27, 2013 Fool. Rattata is boss. I've beaten the game with just a Rattata before. And rattatas helped me catch Arceus. Ugly coloring? They look nice. Ultra ball looks nice, that's probably all that matters anyway. You want max revives able to be bought I guess to decrease the challenge, but then you say you want stones not able to be bought to increase challenge. That doesn't make sense. And stones are okay. Once you evolve a poke'mon using a stone, they stop learning moves, so you still have to train then before evolving to get the most out of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoraBlade 832 Posted October 27, 2013 Exactly,Those kinds of trainers are meant to be a running joke in the games....pretty much like how every FF game has to persons named Biggs and Wedge speaking of Magikarp,if you know Marriland on youtube,he freaks out everytime he meets the 6 Magikarp Fisherman,and it's the most hilarious thing ever Example video, please? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted October 27, 2013 (edited) You misread what I said about under-levelled wild Pokémon, and EVs do absolutely nothing, for all I care. I have received Pokerus in two of my games, and neither time did they have any noticeable effect on my team members. The vermin do not have to be HM slaves. Furret is a legitimately useful team member, and is nowhere near as ugly as the rest of them. I found that to be so depressing. EVs means a lot especially if your Pokemon have the correct Nature you gain more points for your stats every time you knock out a Pokemon....and the higher the level of the Pokemon you catch,the less powerful it'll be at lv100 except if you give them some vitamins As for the vermins,they're pretty much an introduction Pokemon that you either carry for 3 gyms and then use someone else or use it as an HM Slave to carry moves like Cut,Rock Smash,Rock Climb,Strength....etc. As for Furret..I really didn't find it that useful...the moment you get a Snorlax,Miltank or even a Clefable,Furret won't be useful anymore Example video, please? Look up Marriland's Pokemon HeartGold Wedlocke....it happens when he's in Kanto,it also happened to him in his emerald Nuzlocke. He might not freak that much on the 6 Magikarp as much as he did for the LEVEL 60 MAGIKARP by the way,I'm a huge fan of Marriland Edited October 27, 2013 by Metal Snake 1 SoraBlade reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Varnish 319 Posted October 27, 2013 (edited) you gain more points for your stats every time you knock out a Pokemon....and the higher the level of the Pokemon you catch,the less powerful it'll be at lv100 except if you give them some vitamins Did I ever mention anything to do with that? You are simply stating the obvious. Fool. Rattata is boss. I've beaten the game with just a Rattata before. And rattatas helped me catch Arceus. Ugly coloring? They look nice. Ultra ball looks nice, that's probably all that matters anyway. You want max revives able to be bought I guess to decrease the challenge, but then you say you want stones not able to be bought to increase challenge. That doesn't make sense. And stones are okay. Once you evolve a poke'mon using a stone, they stop learning moves, so you still have to train then before evolving to get the most out of them. Well, your story about your Rattata is very compelling, Mr Xemnas, so allow me to write that down with my invisible typewriter. How does that not make sense? Stones are obviously more important and effective than Max Revives are. Edited October 27, 2013 by Varnish Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isaix 924 Posted October 27, 2013 (edited) Rattata can also be very powerful if use correctly Edited October 27, 2013 by Isaix 1 MasterXemnas reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted October 27, 2013 Did I ever mention anything to do with that? You are simply stating the obvious. Well, your story about your Rattata is very compelling, Mr Xemnas, so allow me to write that down with my invisible typewriter. How does that not make sense? Stones are obviously more important and effective than Max Revives are. I'm stating the obvious because you didn't make it clear that you know it's obvious....you're the one who said EVs mean nothing while they mean a lot in terms of taking advantage of the stats your Pokemon is specialized in especially when it comes to EV grinding against specific Pokemon species Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MasterXemnas 2,285 Posted October 27, 2013 Well, your story about your Rattata is very compelling, Mr Xemnas, so allow me to write that down with my invisible typewriter. How does that not make sense? Stones are obviously more important and effective than Max Revives are. Fool. The draw backs from using a stone can be severe and you must be careful when using it. There is no draw back from using a max revive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted October 27, 2013 Did I ever mention anything to do with that? You are simply stating the obvious. Well, your story about your Rattata is very compelling, Mr Xemnas, so allow me to write that down with my invisible typewriter. How does that not make sense? Stones are obviously more important and effective than Max Revives are. Speaking of Ratata,there is a strategy that can kill even Arceus with your little Lv1 Ratata. It's called F.E.A.R=F**king Annoying Evil Rat By reducing Ratata's happiness and giving him Endevour,it'll reduce the opponents HP to ONE...ONE HP. Give your Ratata a Focus Sash to survive and then knock the Lv100 Pokemon with Quick Attack 1 Reyn reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wisdomform 221 Posted October 27, 2013 -The moment when a Pokeball rolls three times as you try to catch a Pokémon, only for the Pokémon to break out before it is caught I hate that! It's like the Pokemon is trolling you. It sucks when it's a Pokemon you really want and you only have one Pokeball left. 1 Varnish reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Varnish 319 Posted October 27, 2013 Speaking of Ratata,there is a strategy that can kill even Arceus with your little Lv1 Ratata. It's called F.E.A.R=F**king Annoying Evil Rat By reducing Ratata's happiness and giving him Endevour,it'll reduce the opponents HP to ONE...ONE HP. Give your Ratata a Focus Sash to survive and then knock the Lv100 Pokemon with Quick Attack Actually, FEAR stands for Focus Sash; Endeavour; Quick Attack; Rattata, and attempting to use it outside online battles is entirely pointless. Lowering the Rattata's happiness plays no part in the technique. Fool. The draw backs from using a stone can be severe and you must be careful when using it. There is no draw back from using a max revive. If a person is not smart enough to wait until a Pokémon has strong attacks before giving it an evolutionary stone, then that is their own fault. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MasterXemnas 2,285 Posted October 27, 2013 If a person is not smart enough to wait until a Pokémon has strong attacks before giving it an evolutionary stone, then that is their own fault. Fool. And someone who has spent the time to get the pokemon perfect and leveled it up to its potential, then what's wrong with the game giving them a little break and allow the stone to be bought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Varnish 319 Posted October 27, 2013 Fool. And someone who has spent the time to get the pokemon perfect and leveled it up to its potential, then what's wrong with the game giving them a little break and allow the stone to be bought. Understood. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pangoro "Sen" 445 Posted October 28, 2013 Speaking of Ratata,there is a strategy that can kill even Arceus with your little Lv1 Ratata. It's called F.E.A.R=F**king Annoying Evil Rat By reducing Ratata's happiness and giving him Endevour,it'll reduce the opponents HP to ONE...ONE HP. Give your Ratata a Focus Sash to survive and then knock the Lv100 Pokemon with Quick Attack I think I saw a video on this technique before. Really is something I need to try out at some point against one of my friends! > Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted October 28, 2013 I think I saw a video on this technique before. Really is something I need to try out at some point against one of my friends! > Marriland(in case you know him)did this technique in one of his very old matches in Pokemon Platinum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
venxas24 544 Posted October 28, 2013 -All of the "vermin" Pokémon (Rattata, Zigzagoon, Bidoof, Patrat, Bunnelby, and their evolutions), excluding Sentret and its evolution, which are legitimately useful if used correctly -The ugly colouring of Ultra Balls Bunnelby's evolution is amazingly useful. Especially as an HM only. I used him as my HM pokemon and he can learn almost every HM(obviously not fly) and he also has the ability Pickup and can give anything from sun stones to hyper potions to revives and moon stones. Even not using him for HMs he still learns decent move and has decent stats. He's waaaay better than the other "vermin" pokemon. I could give the same argument for bidoof's evolution. Also, Ultra Balls could've had a far worse design. They aren't the worst pokeball and don't look horrible. They don't look as cool as great balls or anything but they don't look like total crap. They're at least better than repeat balls which I also don't find useful at all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Varnish 319 Posted October 28, 2013 Bunnelby's evolution is amazingly useful. Especially as an HM only. I used him as my HM pokemon and he can learn almost every HM(obviously not fly) and he also has the ability Pickup and can give anything from sun stones to hyper potions to revives and moon stones. Even not using him for HMs he still learns decent move and has decent stats. He's waaaay better than the other "vermin" pokemon. I could give the same argument for bidoof's evolution. Also, Ultra Balls could've had a far worse design. They aren't the worst pokeball and don't look horrible. They don't look as cool as great balls or anything but they don't look like total crap. They're at least better than repeat balls which I also don't find useful at all It is interesting to hear that. I am surprised that it is able to pick up such useful items. Repeat balls can be useful if one wants to catch a shiny version of a Pokémon that is already owned, or if one thinks that a Pokémon that is the same as one that is already owned has a better quality to it than the other one. I do not like the appearance of Ultra Balls due to their lack of vibrant colouring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anonn0000 3,525 Posted October 28, 2013 Hmmmmn....Misty's sisters. Best thing I can think of, for now <_< Share this post Link to post Share on other sites